.co .CO - The Discussion, Showcase and Sales Report Thread

[TOXX]

Well, it seems like Colombia will be releasing .CO to the internet market:
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http://www.mincomunicaciones.gov.co...ge=./mods/contenido/noticia_user_view&id=1043
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This could truly be a big competitor to .COM (especially being a "typo").
I would say with proper guidance .CO could REALLY have a bright future!
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Let me know your thoughts please.

 

[emjohn]

Exactly. That's the whole point. That's why trolling is such a useless endeavour.

It is about putting yourself in position to succeed.
This is true with domains or business in general.

There is a saying that goes -

“Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.”

With that said, luck does play some role in domains (buying & selling).

However, you also can't build a business on "luck".

There is no substitute for good ideas and hard work.

Brad

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You're right, it is more interesting than you...

I hope we have a chance to meet at a conference some day. It will show that you have better things to do than sit and troll around the space....quite the initiative there.

I've never been one to toot my own horn.and it's more interesting than me anyway.

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There is no clarification required. The wonderment comes when I ask how a person can spend their life trolling. At some point THEY must ask themselves that question.

Anyway, burying the bad seed, back to .co...

I'm qualified and I agree with NovyTimm. But even by your own definition I think we're safe using Troll simply because Greg's not responding "to questions that have been asked." But anyone who knows anything about Greg knows why he's here and what his goals are. And don't ask for clarification because you already know.

 

[DU]

Anyway, burying the bad seed, back to .co...

Where ? I can see where the "trolling" is a one sided problem.

 

[NovyTimm]

1 month 26 posts (all in this thread?) and this qualifies you to call out a troll? Not being a jerk - but perhaps you need to understand the whole dynamic and history here (maybe you have read it all - in which case - fair enough) BUT THAT SAID...

Troll: "One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument."

MicroGuy's message history shows a constant stream of negativity against .CO and other gTLDs. This particular forum is for doing .CO business, and we're tired of listening to MicroGuy's rants against .CO. The man is obviously a successful .COM seller and talented musician, but there's really no need for his negative schlock here.

 

[Ms Domainer]

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Yes, Microguy can be a bit thorny and snarky at times, BUT off the forum, he can be (and has been) helpful, at least to me.

I just think he's offering another side to the .co discussion, and he just has a terse approach to articulating his opinion, which is diametrically opposed to prevailing opinion on this thread.

I have mixed feelings about .co, so I do like hearing both sides, even from Greg.

I just wish I would have listened better to naysayers re: .tel because they had a lot to say that could have saved me a lot of money had I considered their views and curbed my tel regs.



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[NLP]

I hope we have a chance to meet at a conference some day.

Speaking of conferences, are any of the posters from this thread going to DOMAINfest in two weeks? I'll be there, so it would be nice to meet up.

 

[JoeBiz]

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Yes, Microguy can be a bit thorny and snarky at times, BUT off the forum, he can be (and has been) helpful, at least to me.

So as long as he's helpful to you he's OK. To hell with the rest of us.

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I just think he's offering another side to the .co discussion, and he just has a terse approach to articulating his opinion, which is diametrically opposed to prevailing opinion on this thread.

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Unh Unh. The majority of his posts on the .CO, the .PRO and the appraisal forum are "deliberately provocative messages to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.**"

MGuy is mad at the world and mad at himself and for the time being NamePros is his only safe outlet.

*** Troll

And now I'm off to my Control Panel to add Greg to my Ignore List.

8^X

 

[bmugford]

This particular forum is for doing .CO business, and we're tired of listening to MicroGuy's rants against .CO. The man is obviously a successful .COM seller and talented musician, but there's really no need for his negative schlock here.

Look at the thread title -

CO - The OFFICIAL Discussion, Showcase and Sales

This thread is open to both sides of the debate. This is not just a pro .CO thread.

Microguy is as entitled to his opinion as you are.

Brad

 

[NovyTimm]

This thread is open to both sides of the debate. This is not just a pro .CO thread. Microguy is as entitled to his opinion as you are.

Yes he is. He seems like a smart and talented guy who could offer alot to this forum. So it's too bad that all he offers is a stream of negative sniping:

Developing a .CO without control of the .COM name is simply settling for a second-class back-alley storefront with extremely limited growth potential that is guaranteed to bleed visitors. It's called swimming upstream with a concrete block tied to both ankles.

At least we've established the FACT that .CO is a terrible choice for anyone planning to target the US market.

I think defensive registrations are really the only practical use of this TLD outside ccTLD purposes.

".CO is a fine extension." I agree. When it's used for its originally intended purposes as a Colombian top level domain (ccTLD).

The .CO is and always will be a ccTLD and we are STILL in Kansas!

You either work for the .CO registry or you are completely insane

especially when dealing with high-risk low-reward ccTLDs like .CO

I think the chances that .CO resale prices will increase in the future are zero.

 

[DU]

So as long as he's helpful to you he's OK. To hell with the rest of us.

Are you saying that we should not help others so that only "the rest of us" are considered?

MicroGuy's message history shows a constant stream of negativity against .CO and other gTLDs. This particular forum is for doing .CO business, and we're tired of listening to MicroGuy's rants against .CO. The man is obviously a successful .COM seller and talented musician, but there's really no need for his negative schlock here.

And emjohn's and others message history shows a constant stream of positivity and pro .CO. This particular forum is for discussing .CO and frankly we're tired of a few people pumping the extension.

emjohn has, to his credit, stated many times that .CO is about top level keywords and being smart. Most people aren't smart. Look at me! I have one .co and I have not even seen a unique view on it in analytics in 3 months!

People need to know that people do NOT go to .CO naturally via key in. A lot of people in the business do NOT respect .CO. Most secondary market buys continue to be defensive registrations and shortcuts. There is a lll.co market (for whatever reason).

Were you here when every .CO appraisal was responded with XXX to X,XXX? and even XX,XXX? by some members of this forum/thread?
You don't think that lots of new domainers lost significant $ because of this? There has to be balance.

Perhaps the format of MG is not one you like (nor mine - and sometimes he bugs me too) but how would YOU suggest that you interject some reality into this thread every now and then? What is fair? The same trolling argument goes on everywhere... have you read the Solar/3D/.TV threads? Everyone has their area they like and hate. It's a forum....

I'm sure if every 5 posts there was a standard disclaimer:

"Domaining is hard. Domaining in .CO is harder. Be ware you may lose lots of money. It's NOT a good secondary market" then no one would need to come in here and remind people that 7000% returns are the exception not the rule.

The reality is that it's been over a year since .CO launched. There just isn't that much interesting to say anymore. Maybe we should ALL move along?

Speaking of conferences, are any of the posters from this thread going to DOMAINfest in two weeks? I'll be there, so it would be nice to meet up.

Nice try to get thread on track I've put it at the bottom. Domainfest is a litte far for me .. would have met up with you if it was in SoFlo again assuming you would want to, of course

 

[NovyTimm]

This particular forum is for discussing .CO and frankly we're tired of a few people pumping the extension.

We've finally gotten to the heart of the matter. I'm here to discuss the business of buying and selling .CO domains, and you and MicroGuy are here to put us down. Which is fine, this is a public forum, but don't expect us to be silent about it.

 

[JB Lions]

There's definitely some trolling going on. I don't like the extension myself but I try to give reasons why and I'm interested in all different types of extensions just because they're part of the market. Bought a couple of .co's myself when they first came out but flipped them quick. I do think there are a few people on this forum that might be bored, have nothing but .com's, which is understandble since it's the best but they might be crappy .com's and maybe not too happy some people with other extensions are actually doing better than them. So I wouldn't put too much weight into their opinions.

 

[trelgor]

trolling.co anyone?

...going first... ...going second... ...:sold:! Sold to the gentleman in the back with the decorative .CO tattoo on his forehead.

 

[Blitz]

This reminds me of my two kids where I constantly have to tell one of them to "stop reacting or he is going to know it bothers you and do it more"

I could be wrong but I have not seen Microguy hurl personal insults at anyone, just give his opinion of this extension in this thread. Some might not agree with him, but this forum is for opinions and discussions of the extension, correct? I guess it takes "Trollers" and "Fanboys" to make it an interesting discussion :]


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[Edward Smeu]

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Yes, Microguy can be a bit thorny and snarky at times, BUT off the forum, he can be (and has been) helpful, at least to me.*

We are on a forum in a community.

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I just think he's offering another side to the .co discussion, and he just has a terse approach to articulating his opinion, which is diametrically opposed to prevailing opinion on this thread. *

It's not about .co . He is doing that on (almost) all extensions. Since I am a NP member, I have NEVER seen an useful comment or constructive criticism from MicroGuy, miembro especial.


I am not saying that he hasn't got knowledge, I'm sure that MicroGuy is good domainer. I am saying he has an attitude issue and is not helping anyone on NP. What's the point:?

Andrei

 

[JB Lions]

This reminds me of my two kids where I constantly have to tell one of them to "stop reacting or he is going to know it bothers you and do it more"

I could be wrong but I have not seen Microguy hurl personal insults at anyone, just give his opinion of this extension in this thread. Some might not agree with him, but this forum is for opinions and discussions of the extension, correct? I guess it takes "Trollers" and "Fanboys" to make it an interesting discussion :]


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Let's take a look at the last 5 posts:

This must vary from person to person. So far, it's still very welcome and very splendid in my life.

Agreed. I want to work with people who want to make money. You guys can have your fun doing whatever it is you do. To each his own. IMO.

Take the money and thank your lucky stars!

Thanks guys for the FREE psychoanalysis. (())

I've never been one to toot my own horn. Besides, I'm 10 minutes into this:
some bad video off topic

That doesn't read like somebody who really wants to discuss the extension but rather poke at those who do, ala trolling. But forums love content creators, so they get a bit of a pass on that. Or is it some paid, VIP membership? Remember reading somewhere about that.

Really, do you think he's here more to:
discuss .co because it's an extension he's interested in or

poke and have fun with those who are, to get a rise out of them

Let's be real.

Also, I think a part of it is, and it's not too hard to tell. Some people who went all in with .com, maybe in the back of their head are a little worried about new extensions. While most of us have "grown up" with .com, maybe the new generations growing up today are a little more adaptable. Maybe they're exposed to new extensions and what follows the keyword isn't a big deal. So some people think, that might hurt the value of their .com's. I do think, new generations will be a little more adaptable, but I don't think it'll hurt the value of the .com, so you guys don't have to worry so much.

 

[Kate]

There is no luck involved in domains. Every good sale has a lot of work behind it.

Actually, there is some luck involved.
In general it's 1% luck, 99% quality.
IMHO.

Like most .COMmies, he's afraid of other gTLDs, but he's especially threatened by .CO because it means "company" to many people in the world and is gaining momentum.

I know this wasn't aimed at anybody in particular but you're the one sounding insecure. I hope you have other reasons backing up your investment strategy.

Okay okay I admit, I am afraid of .co because we now know it's going to replace .com and of course all the ccTLDs and the early players are now losers while the latecomers hit the jackpot :zzz:

 

[Keith]

Circles.co :bah:

In general, folks should refrain from commenting in any thread unless their input is genuine :imho:

 

[JoeBiz]

Let's take a look at the last 5 posts:

This must vary from person to person. So far, it's still very welcome and very splendid in my life.

Agreed. I want to work with people who want to make money. You guys can have your fun doing whatever it is you do. To each his own. IMO.

Take the money and thank your lucky stars!

Thanks guys for the FREE psychoanalysis. (())

I've never been one to toot my own horn. Besides, I'm 10 minutes into this:
some bad video off topic

That doesn't read like somebody who really wants to discuss the extension but rather poke at those who do, ala trolling. But forums love content creators, so they get a bit of a pass on that. Or is it some paid, VIP membership? Remember reading somewhere about that.

Really, do you think he's here more to:
discuss .co because it's an extension he's interested in or

poke and have fun with those who are, to get a rise out of them

Let's be real.

Also, I think a part of it is, and it's not too hard to tell. Some people who went all in with .com, maybe in the back of their head are a little worried about new extensions. While most of us have "grown up" with .com, maybe the new generations growing up today are a little more adaptable. Maybe they're exposed to new extensions and what follows the keyword isn't a big deal. So some people think, that might hurt the value of their .com's. I do think, new generations will be a little more adaptable, but I don't think it'll hurt the value of the .com, so you guys don't have to worry so much.

You know as well as I do that MG has made some nasty posts in the Appraisal forum, mostly to newbies. I can only assume that he's trying to discourage them. And meanwhile he slips in as many insults as possible. Then of course he'll make a few nice posts for people like you to collect and display.

But based on your conclusions I'd have to assume that he was kicked off of NamePros because of his advice and opinions. hmmm

 

[JB Lions]

You know as well as I do that MG has made some nasty posts in the Appraisal forum, mostly to newbies. I can only assume that he's trying to discourage them. And meanwhile he slips in as many insults as possible. Then of course he'll make a few nice posts for people like you to collect and display.

But based on your conclusions I'd have to assume that he was kicked off of NamePros because of his advice and opinions. hmmm

I think you just misread my post Those weren't nice posts I was collecting and displaying, that was backing up my post saying how his posts are basically off topic and he has no real interest in this extension, he just likes to get a rise out of people. So me and you really agree.

 

[DU]

Let's take a look at the last 5 posts:

To be fair, one should look at the posts that are being responded to also. I could find many a thread where I have, you have and emjohn or anyone with more than 30 posts have 5 in a row that aren't "contributory".

I read posts that contain JUST the following:

$2000 is the sweet spot for LLL.co

What does that mean? Looking around NP I would suggest that $30 is the sweet spot. You can't look at some $X,XXX and ignore the vast majority that don't sell - oh, except I guess you can in a buy and sell .CO business thread.

What is someone not pro .CO supposed to think when the claim of $2,000 being a LLL.co sweetspot is made? Those positive claims can't be considered trolling because they're not negative and thus good. I think that's UNICORNING - being so pro and pumping you make the forum seem like some kind of fantasyland.

But here are the quotes.

Take the money and thank your lucky stars!

In response to a question asked of whether an offer should be accepted (I agree with the response).

Thanks guys for the FREE psychoanalysis. (())

In response to "He's one of those sad souls who has to make others feel bad so he can feel good".

I guess he could take the high road? Is the answer or the statement more offensive?

I've never been one to toot my own horn.

In response to "I am much more interested in the PROFIT you are making...please, please tell us..."

I guess he could give the same level of insight as the questioner. Some sales XXX, NDA, 7000% etc. etc.

For the record: MG toots his horn all the time, just not his Unicorn horn.

We've finally gotten to the heart of the matter. I'm here to discuss the business of buying and selling .CO domains, and you and MicroGuy are here to put us down. Which is fine, this is a public forum, but don't expect us to be silent about it.

I don't expect you to be silent. It's a forum. I expect you contribute.

I do ask - where have I put you down? I asked you to consider the history here because you're new. If you don't want MG to respond to things - don't ask him questions. It's simple.

As far as me being here to put you down? I've been posting in this thread for over ONE YEAR. you've been here in this forum for ONE MONTH and I'm here to put you down? You may be filled with a little too much self-importance, I feel.

Yes he is. He seems like a smart and talented guy who could offer alot to this forum. So it's too bad that all he offers is a stream of negative sniping:

The reality is that MOST people agree with him. The arguments for and against .CO have been made and made again. If you had taken the time to read back a little bit you might realize that I'm far LESS anti .co than a LOT of people.

99% of domainers think .CO sucks. 99% of end users won't consider .CO (those who aren't confused by it's not COM/Co.UK)

Very few businesses will launch on a .co. This is a FACT. You can find great brandable .COM for under $2,000 for almost any business. They basically ask, why would I waste time in the .CO aftermarket?

For $10,000 you can buy a GREAT name in most industries. In the USA you can always buy a .US almost always cheaper than someone has their .CO listed. Most businesses aren't global.

These are the question .CO investors have to answer in the renewal window. Having people constantly post that LLL.co's are worth $2000 or LEDTelevisions.co is worth MID X,XXX is unfair to anyone wondering whether they should invest their $25 dollars in a renewal.

If this is anti-co then so be it.

Yes, if you have top keywords you might make money... but the top-keywords are few and far between. Some ( a lot?) people think terms like Peanut.co are decent keywords.

Sedo auctions appraise that name at $100.