.mobi Buying Mobi in a dip at reasonable prices...

[labrocca]

For all my dislike of mTLD...one always has to consider the value of any commodity. In the past mobi's were overvalued and not worth the investment in comparison to other extensions.

For example...because of the mobi craze I caught some great deals on .com's and .net's. LLL.us names have also gone done imho for the same reason. A LOT of domainer capital went into mobi. That left those holding the other extensions little choice but to sell cheaper or hold. I held. I also bought.

Now that mobi appears to have fallen off the high horse I am hoping greatly to see some realistic prices on names good for development. mobi parking is worthless and even development isn't gonna be a big winner for some time. The past 6 months I have seen a few reasonable names but priced way out of proportion to return. ROI (return on investment) is important to me.

I hope to start seeing some decent names for $25-$250 now that I might pick up for development. Yes...I could have registered names 6 months ago probably but imho..I didn't want to get caught up in a hype frenzy and find that I spent $1k on registration fees to end up with 2-3 good names. I would rather wait...pay a few hundred and get the quality names I want now. The market seems to have been shaken out and it's still relaxing imho.

It should be an interesting summer.

I also want to encourage those holding mobi domains to consider reasonable prices if you do want to sell. If you get a PM asking about keyword.mobi don't reply with inflated $x,xxx prices that you know it's not worth. Consider a REASONABLE price please. Something that makes you money...and gives the buyer a chance to make money. That's a natural market.

Thanks for reading.

 

[BrainPower]

The way I look at it, .mobi is an arena (as of May 2007) that holds the greatest "capability" of enormous return. With this speculation, comes a great deal of price inflation. But at the same time, you're getting into a domain with the potential for growth. Dot mobi is going onto its 8th month with registrations occuring, and you are still feeling the "buzz".

Given that, I would tell the dot mobi believers to NEVER sell the gems... the best is yet to come....On that high note, i'm off to bed

 

[gou]

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[labrocca]

not interested in buying leet.mobi an I would sell l33t.mobi which imho is worth more for about $75-$100...

And yes domaintakers if I held GEMS I wouldn't sell but so many own just regular middle range names that are 1000-1 going to get to a high offer beyond $xxx. There are a TON of good midrange names that I would like to see in the $25-$250 range which is still a profit for a domainer up to 1000%. There is greed and then there is outrageous greed.

 

[gou]

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[labrocca]

Not sure why a my name is better than your name debate is needed but fyi..we registered the names just 6 hours apart. I also have n00b.mobi to go along with it.

I also own l33t.info so it seemed like the natural choice to get l33t.mobi for myself. If you read my mobi posts at the time I was thinking that since cell phones are numeric pads that l33t would hold more value than leet.

And ok...let's say that overall leet is worth more based on google results and ovt.

l33t-ovt=522 google= 1.7 million
leet-ovt=625 google= 2.5 million

If I think l33t is worth $75..then maybe I would consider leet $100...maybe even $150. My point is that the range is not $x,xxx. And if you do want to sell...you will have to come to a reasonable price with a buyer. If you don't want to sell that's fine too. I don't care what you do with your domains. 500k registration and I don't think a shortage of sellers will happen.

 

[gou]

Sorry, my point was not that leet is better than l33t or vice versa; I was merely trying to say that what's reasonable to you may not be reasonable to others.

 

[GeoOwners]

gotta give you credit Jesse...your keeping your options open even though you dont really like .mobi...a sign of a businessman...

I have many customers I dont like but I still take their money...

:tri:

 

[labrocca]

gotta give you credit Jesse...your keeping your options open even though you dont really like .mobi...a sign of a businessman...

I have many customers I dont like but I still take their money...

:tri:

Everything has it's value. Finding what that value is has been a skill of mine for some time. I have probably made about 50,000 deals/trades in the past 10 years. I owned a store and I bought and sold used goods...did about a million a year in sales. I have incredible experience in trading.

gou-Yes I understand your point. And agreeing to a price is ALWAYS something between the buyer and seller. What has happened recently appears that the selling price of mobi names is coming to a more attractive position for buyers. That just means more sales actually. That's a healthy market. Buy buy buy is not good....you have to buy sell buy sell buy sell in a harmonies way (do I sound like yelo?).

 

[cobo]

And hopefully in an incrementally higher priced way! :hehe:
Yelo might have spelled "harmonious" correctly.

 

[erwin.groen]

I have to fully agree with Jesse's comments, prices are overrated, way overrated IMO!. Names have gone for thousands and the extension hasn't really taken off yet! Pure speculation at this point in time, I have hopes for this mobi thing but not for another few years yet!

 

[Kamloops]

I thought I regged some good ones but now I am not to sure.


travelquotes.mobi
travelquote.mobi
vlogdir.mobi
marketactivity.mobi
insureit.mobi
cartune.mobi
cartunes.mobi

 

[acc]

I have to fully agree with Jesse's comments, prices are overrated, way overrated IMO!. Names have gone for thousands and the extension hasn't really taken off yet! Pure speculation at this point in time, I have hopes for this mobi thing but not for another few years yet!

Hope you didn't buy a used watch on EbayTM :imho: If you did, don't worry - it should be right twice a day.

"Thousands" for a keyword generic name is way overrated??? How people readily accept as normal the prices paid for junk LLLL and LLLLL and anything else .coms which will never be used for anything and at the same time can't see the real possibility of nice generic dot mobis - is beyond me.

Anytime a $xx,xxx sale takes place (for an grade A name) or a $x,xxx sale (for an grade B name) some say its a scam sale. And when a $xx - low $xxx sale takes place (for a grade C name) they say .mobis in general are losing value. Anything just to badmouth the extension. Every single dot mobi transaction is suspect and is only more than a "pending sale" only when they approve.

Here's what I don't get: ALL these months the owner of something like "l33t*info" and "l33t*mobi" and n00b*mobi has been bashing, badmouthing, and arguing against the viability and potential of dot mobi. Yet they buy such bonafied $0-regfee names. Of course the range for names like those is NOT $x,xxx ... or even $75-$150. Who ever seriously said $x,xxx? Those who own few .mobi names and with very little at stake in the success of the extension complain about the high prices of good generic names. Go figure.

Some out there may think that all their naysaying has beaten down the market so that finally maybe they can come out to play? A little humility and a few more mea culpas and maybe somebody will sell them a good .mobi name or two. But ... not for $xx - low $xxx.

 

[hedgefund]

I guess all these craziness about bear market is due to the lack of major good news on .mobi.

My hunch is the market will turn around quickly towards bull market again once good news comes in.

.mobi market is very very similar to wall street.

 

[Jasdon]

I hope to start seeing some decent names for $25-$250 now that I might pick up for development. Yes...I could have registered names 6 months ago probably but imho..I didn't want to get caught up in a hype frenzy and find that I spent $1k on registration fees to end up with 2-3 good names. I would rather wait...pay a few hundred and get the quality names I want now. The market seems to have been shaken out and it's still relaxing imho.

So what have you learnt over the past 6 months that means you can pick a good name now, that you couldn't back then?

 

[labrocca]

So what have you learnt over the past 6 months that means you can pick a good name now, that you couldn't back then?

No it means now the market is getting stable and it's easier to judge value. I try not to overbuy in a buying frenzy. It's like all those home investors that grabbed 3-4 houses with arm mortgages that now have to sell at a loss or default on loans. I seen this pattern before. I grabbed a few names which I considered useful and moved on. I have 600 names...I am not short of names to develop. If I never reg or buy another name again..I have enough to develop for the rest of my life.

Here's what I don't get: ALL these months the owner of something like "l33t*info" and "l33t*mobi" and n00b*mobi has been bashing, badmouthing, and arguing against the viability and potential of dot mobi. Yet they buy such bonafied $0-regfee names. Of course the range for names like those is NOT $x,xxx ... or even $75-$150. Who ever seriously said $x,xxx?

What may be a $0 reg fee to you is not to me. If you notice my signature...I own a large portion of video game domains. That's because it's been my professional field for over 10 years. I didn't buy l33t to park or to resell. I bought it because I knew I could develop it one day.

Those who own few .mobi names and with very little at stake in the success of the extension complain about the high prices of good generic names. Go figure.

Consider it a pet peeve of mine about overpriced items and fellow domainers being suckered into a quagmire. How long have you been domaining? A year...two? I been doing this since 1996 more or less. I have seen trends. I have personally earned and lost a mini-fortune. It's not a great feeling to be that high up only to loss it all. Maybe I am trying to share my wisdom a bit in the hope that others buy wisely.

No one has to listen to me. But my conciensce is clear at least.

 

[-REECE-]

L33t.com and N00b.com would likely be $1X,XXX IMO. As Labrocca has stated, they're extremely prevalent terms in MMOs.

 

[garrett200]

IMHO, right now is an excellent opportunity for .mobi investors to find names at rock bottom prices.

The "hype" has quieted down for now. Rest assured, there will be more hype coming when news of bigger sales of premium names comes out. On top of that hype, there will probably be signs of life for .mobi as a whole, further driving prices higher.

If I hadn't just purchased a brand new car, I would be on a .mobi buying frenzy on the aftermarket right now. Especially for LLL.mobi

Sentiment: STRONG BUY!!

 

[BrainPower]

it ultimately comes down to what you can do with that domain with dot mobi.... Look at porn.com selling on the 14th for 9 million. Many think thats a CRAZY amount.... but the company that acquired that name saw a return on their investment given their vast network.....

As for midrange domains within dot mobi, its what makes a true market. A true price is only outrageous if a buyer and seller can not come to an agreed upon price. When you see some of these dot mobis selling in the high amounts, you have buyers believing...

 

[-REECE-]

it ultimately comes down to what you can do with that domain with dot mobi.... Look at porn.com selling on the 14th for 9 million. Many think thats a CRAZY amount.... but the company that acquired that name saw a return on their investment given their vast network.....

As for midrange domains within dot mobi, its what makes a true market. A true price is only outrageous if a buyer and seller can not come to an agreed upon price. When you see some of these dot mobis selling in the high amounts, you have buyers believing...

Porn.com was the best bargain since Sex.com IMO. Man, I wish I had 23m and could have bought those 2...

Would have been pimp daddy of the internet