BODIS

[matt_bodis]

Bodis.com

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Former topic:

• The New REVOLUTION in Domain Parking is HERE! - Bodis.com

 

[matt_bodis]

I understand where you are coming from and seems quite logical to me, from a customer perspective.

But I think that domainers have rebelled so much in the domain parking space, that right at this point most parking companies are giving all they really can. This is of course looking at things from my end, but I could be wrong.

The real decline in revenue I think has been with the clean up of the major search networks that syndicate the advertisements.

I can name 4 things from the top of my head that resulted in big declines over last 2 years:

1. The recent Yahoo TQ system adjustment
2. Ban of MFA sites on Google/Yahoo which were drastically driving up advertiser CPCs and competition.
3. Ban of arbitrage on Google which was drastically driving up advertiser CPCs.
4. Ban of the Ask agreement, Lycos agreement, and InfoSpace agreement that no longer allows them to syndicate to domain parking companies. (Companies affected by this were: Bodis, ParkingPanel, Parked, Skenzo, HitFarm, and many others).

I hate to say this, but there are many more to come, I know at least two that I would not be able to discuss, but they are definitely coming.

At this point, only the parking companies can really help increase revenues with better technology.

 

[wolfis.com]

Matt,
it is always interesting to read the little insides you are posting , however i must disaggree on your first reason :

the yahoo TQ system adjustment

if that where to be a part of it , domainers with a stabil TQ of 10 ( highest possible ) would actually see an increase ( at least that was originally said by yahoo and that parking company ( you know who )

now i have been a costumer of this said company for years and for a long time i have 1000's of domains parked there - my TQ is a 10 ( 9 out of 10 times ) with 1000's of daily clicks .

so , yahoo likes the traffic - the parking company likes it - ( i must guess the advertizers like it )

why would my revenue decline ( keep in mind TQ 10 ) ?
should it not getting higher ? do i miss something ?

...and here is what i do not understand : my revenue over the past few month ( after that yahoo TQ adjustment ) has declined.

i just don't get the logic behind this.

now with bodis i added mostly typos ( the reason is, they suppose to convert the best )

wrong again - google does the exact same thing - declining revenue ( and at bodis it is on a daily basis - with the old system i was much better of and i had nice weekends - not anymore )

sorry Matt, but i still think bodis was better of with the old feed.

 

[matt_bodis]

Wolfis,

I am unsure, but the only answer that I have to that is smart pricing.

As far as the old feed goes, it had lower earnings overall but these earnings were distributed differently. Some people have doubled or tripled their revenue since without touching anything, mainly those that had North America traffic. And on top of that it is not an option any longer.

It's just not the same land scape anymore. I know advertisers these days are much happier than they were before as they are now paying less for better traffic. 3 years ago it was like the wild wild west of the domain industry.

That is not to say that 2009 is a bad year or 2010 will be a bad year. These are still excellent years.

Hell, if you still want to make killer earnings, go convince some of the international providers such as Yandex or Rambler. Some of them don't have smart pricing, can't tell the difference between fraud, and your average CPC will be $1.50 in Russia. That's how it was in USA 3-4 years ago.

It all comes to an end sooner or later and reality kicks in.

3 years ago there was a big struggle to get the fraud out of the way. Now there's a struggle to get low quality traffic out. Think of low quality traffic as the new fraud.

But, I do not know why your revenue tanked when your quality was a 10. That is something I just have no explanation for.

I think it's best to concentrate on making money. Look to the future instead of the past. These are still great years. :tu:

 

[Name Trader]

Matt. We're now into the 2nd week of December. Are the new landers / for sale system going to come this week?

 

[matt_bodis]

Now it's more like this month.

Sorry for delay, but you have to wait just a tad longer than expected.

This is a big change, not just a switch-aroo of templates but a new photo system and a lot of new things in the backend which I will not say that should improve everyone's revenue.

But do trust me, it is coming. Some members here already seen the templates, they are just being integrated and will be tested throughout the next week before going live.

It's pretty much the only thing I am working on right now around the clock. So there are no delays than the templates themselves.

 

[Name Trader]

Got 1 click of $10+ yesterday. WhooHoo!!

 

[firefly]

Got 1 click of $10+ yesterday. WhooHoo!!

Nice!! Hopefully with all the effort Matt is putting in, people will see more of these types of clicks.

 

[jeffoverman]

Congrats on nice click!

Always fun in getting high clicks and hearing from other domainers

Matt I think bodis can grab some nice activity on domain sales since Sedo issues and commission rates. Would be awesome show revenue making names and traffic. Put that to do list lol but focus on templates and shorter payment terms next year some time.

Cheers
J

 

[wolfis.com]

i am glad to see it works for some - it is not working for me - not at all - every single day it pays less - since to new feed i am down more than half - i will move !

 

[matt_bodis]

Good to see someone with $10+ click! I've seen $4-$8 clicks on some of my financial domains in recent weeks. I haven't checked for the highest paid click, but maybe I will tonight out of curiosity.

Wolfis, I will need to ask my upstream provider to see if smart pricing is the cause. I am a bit weary of some of your high revenue generating domains in terms of what the quality may be. Although, some of your lower generating domains look good. If in any case you'd be smart priced, then your whole account would be affected. I do not know if this is the issue, and for all I know your quality may be perfect.

Also, just want everyone to keep in mind that between now and end of December there may be a slight drop in visitors due to the holidays.

 

[v5x]

I've just noticed, domains that are forwarded are not display ads properly.

Using bodisparking.com/domain.com, the initial landers show OK, but when you click on a related search keyword on a two click lander, the server responds 'Domain name does not exist in database.' and no ads listings are shown.

Is this a bug with domain forwarding Matt or is it something to do with visiting your own domain? - Am I losing clicks

Update: URL forwarding seems to work now, but have still lost some clicks.

 

[matt_bodis]

I will have the revenue credited for the URL forwarding down time this morning in just a few hours. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Edit: Revenue has now been credited.

PS
On a seperate note, I'd like to stress the fact that name servers or IP forwarding is the best way to resolve domain names to Bodis.

This has nothing to do with the downtime, but in the near future our upstream provider will not allow us to monetize domain names that are URL forwarded. This will not only affect us, but it will affect most parking companies in the industry that use the same upstream provider.

If you have the ability to make the switch, I recommend doing it because once the word on the policy is final, I and other parking companies may have only just a matter of days before the policy takes effect. So I want to give everyone an advance notice on this so that you have time to go and make the changes ahead of time, or at least create a plan if you have many domain names that are being URL forwarded.

 

[losangelescarrental]

can't open it

 

[edenCC]

can't open it

what's your error message when accessing bodis please? It works well at my side. :santa:

 

[Name Trader]

Matt. There just about 1 week left in December. Are we still getting the new templates and sales system this month?

 

[matt_bodis]

I am hoping so. It's been a bit behind, but it is a really big system that I really think will be well worth the wait.

The new templates use a new gallery, and the images for the gallery are still being selected for each category. And each template uses hundreds of categories, and photos are different from template to template. That is what's still causing the delay.

It is very different than what Bodis has and uses now. But I expect much improved accuracy of automated photos, and better RPMs due to better templates.

As soon as they are live, I will update this thread.

PS
Many have asked about payments for October due to the holidays. All payments have been processed.

Wisihing a Happy Holiday to everyone!

PS2
I believe logangelescarrental is referring to a special bug with the SSL certificate that affects only Bodis.com homepage visitors on Windows XP running IE 6 or 7. It's our new SSL certificate that is causing it. I'll have that looked at tonight. Just wanted to say that this does not affect parked domains or anyone's earnings. For the time being, members that see the certificate message can easily get around it by simply clicking "Make Security Exception" when they see the message box appear on Bodis.com.

 

[Name Trader]

OK Matt. The reason I'm harping on it so much is this was promised for december, and i transferred thousands of domains, expecting the For Sale system to be up and running, but it's not. I'm probably losing some sales right now.

 

[Name Trader]

Matt. It might be nice if you did an "in account" check before posting the revenue results for a domain not in your account. Right now we get the exact same report if the domain is, or is not, in your account. It would be much better if we could tell if the domain is not in your account by flagging it as such, upon a search.

 

[matt_bodis]

Thanks stub and sorry for delay. But believe me, it is right around the corner.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the in-account check? If you remove a domain name from your account, but the stats still haven't be fully processed, then you'll still see earnings update for that domain. Stats are delay from anywhere between 20-60 minutes.

But if you want to see in your earnings report what domains are still resolving to Bodis and which of them are not, that'd be something else that I can put on my list of things to add.

Right now I am still getting ready to release the new templates, and will worry about the actual Bodis.com as my next step after the templates are released.

That reminds me to tell everyone that there will be expected downtime today between 2:00 am EST and 2:30 am EST as there will need to be an upgrade to the server network. Any lost earnings within those 30 minutes will be credited immediately after.

 

[Name Trader]

When you do a traffic/revenue domain search. What I mean is if the domain is not in your account you say the domain isn't in your account rather than present us with the same report as if the domain is in your account. It gets confusing as it is now, when you get a report with all zeros. You still don't know whether the domain is producing zeros because it isn't in your account, or because there isn't any traffic/revenue. It can be time consuming to go and search for the domain, to really know it's producing zero revenue numbers because it isn't in your account.

Oh. And Good Luck with finishing the new templates