BODIS

[matt_bodis]

Bodis.com

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• The New REVOLUTION in Domain Parking is HERE! - Bodis.com

 

[DADomains]

Matt this may already be on your radar, but I would like to make a suggestion. Can we have a way to jump from the Earnings Report By Domain screen to the Manage Domains screen?

In other words it would be great to call up the revenue list and for any domain that obviously needs tweaking we just click on, say, an Edit link and it takes us right to the edit screen for that domain. This would save a lot of time and jumping around. :tu:

 

[GILSAN]

I've noticed a very big drop in visitors today in relation to the past 2-3 weeks. Anyone else notice it?

 

[yandig]

I've noticed a very big drop in visitors today in relation to the past 2-3 weeks. Anyone else notice it?

Me too...

 

[matt_bodis]

Invalid visitors are now being removed from real-time stats.

It shouldn't affect your revenue.

Although actually, your revenue will be affected since we now further enabled a new ZeroClick partner on some of the domain names and those stats are not in real-time until tomorrow. But that revenue should increase, not decrease.

Also last 2-3 week stats have not been finalized and are estimates. Once we finalize them, they will be updated with valid visitors, rather than the invalid+valid that you are seeing right now.


PS

I think some people may be misunderstanding how our system works. We allow all visitors to view our landing pages, and click any advertisements - even if they are invalid.

The reason for this is because sometimes our ad providers determine that a visitor that we think is invalid - actually to be valid, so we don't want to block off any valid visitors by accident. So we figure out which are valid/invalid, and report accordingly. But when we update real-time stats, we get data from our providers and then update the revenue to match those figures.

So at the end of the day - visitor figures are just figures. If your visitors have dropped 3 times as much, it doesn't mean that we are blocking them. We are just not reporting them.

 

[GILSAN]

Thanks for the explanation Matt. Those 2-3 weeks of stats that have not been finalized, is it still because of Yahoo Europe?

 

[Halobitt]

Also last 2-3 week stats have not been finalized and are estimates.

Will this be an ongoing 2-3 week lagtime Matt, or just this once when things are changing over to Bodis 2.0?

 

[domain8888]

Sorry if this sounds dumb but what makes bodis better to park with,

Is it the landing pages etc?

 

[Fragger]

Sorry if this sounds dumb but what makes bodis better to park with,

Is it the landing pages etc?

Naw, it's the homegrown love that is baked into every page. Plus, yeah... the landers and customization are pretty sweet.

 

[matt_bodis]

I am sorry that things are taking so long. There is just a lot of work, and each thing requires so much time for development. I just wish I had a team - but I don't.

Anyway, we've been testing our new ZeroClick partner since yesterday and so far the results seem more than promising. One of my domain names went from $5 per day to $40 per day. I will be sure to have the new partner included in the real-time stats starting tonight. Although, we have yet to see how well it converts for our partners so I am not jumping the gun yet.

 

[GILSAN]

Matt, I've had all my domains on ZeroClick since the begining of v2, but today I would say is my worst day ever since v2. Hardly any visitors. I wonder if its to do with the opening cerimony of the Olympics?

 

[matt_bodis]

Matt, I've had all my domains on ZeroClick since the begining of v2, but today I would say is my worst day ever since. Hardly any visitors. I wonder if its to do with the opening cerimony of the Olympics?

I think it has to do with more and more robots being excluded from your visitor numbers. I think we now are almost at the optimal level of excluding invalid visitors (for real-time stats). Yesterday I setup monitoring of robots that hit the robots.txt file to be excluded from your stats. Our filters sit on an impression level. Most parking companies filters are either third-party which monitor only clicks, or in-house but still sit on the click level, and they do not discard as many invalid visitors from the stats as possible.

But, your revenue should stay the same. If not, then it is because most of it is going to the ZeroClick partner which is not being recorded in real-time stats. I will be working on adding it in within the next few minutes and will have it up by tonight.

 

[ArtfulWebSites]

ZeroClick Revenue

Matt,

How will we know what part (if any) of our revenue is coming from ZeroClick???

 

[goodkarmaco]

yup,

home grown love for sure.

 

[matt_bodis]

ZeroClick revenue from our new partner should now be included in your stats.

Matt,

How will we know what part (if any) of our revenue is coming from ZeroClick???

Right now there is no way to tell it apart, but since so many people want to see it - I will add it in down the line.

 

[Fragger]

One thing I have noticed today, is when I check some of my domains I have edited by going to the actual site, it doesn't ever record in the user account area for that site as having a visitor. I.E- I got to AcmeShowerCutrains.com to check my site after I have edited, but in the visitors section AcmeShowerCurtains.com does not show up as having a visitor. Is this because the IP we use to log into our account is able to be filtered out from the visitor stats on our own pages?

 

[matt_bodis]

Yes - your own visits do not count unless you are visiting your domain names for the first time.

I can't get into specifics on the whole "invalid visitors" thing. But if you were to check that domain name again from a different computer then your visitor count would increase immediately by 1.

 

[Fragger]

Ok. Cool. So does this also mean that repeat visitors to our site will not count? Or is there a time period. Like I know parked.com, and sedo.com too I think are 24 hours..... Is there a similar system in place with Bodis? Not that it probably matters, I can't imagine anyone going to a parked page on repeat occassions......

 

[matt_bodis]

A visitor can come in more than once, and he/she can click more than once, and it still can be valid and counted. Conversions actually happen on the 2nd or 3rd click (for PPC ads), so it would be ludicrous to discard repeat clicks and/or mark visitors invalid for repeat clicks.

The visitor figures in your statistics are actually Unique Visitors. It also excludes any visitors that we think may be invalid. It should be used as an estimate / suggestion on roughly how many visitors your domain name gets. We try to get this number as accurate as possible, but we still have a long way to go. There is actually 1-2 more invalid visitor ideas I have, and on top of that, we do want to discard 404 visitors like Parked - but only to a certain degree. We would discard visitors from people linking to images that no longer exist (404). But we would not discount 404s such as domainname.com/subfolder/folder/somepage.html. Because if you were to link to a non-existant image on your parked domain from some website, that would count as a visit - the idea in the future is to make sure that those requests do not count as a visit. I believe that is the whole concept of Parked's 404 visitor thing - correct me if I'm wrong.

How long the visitor stays in our "banned visitor" database all depends on how abusive the "invalid visitor" is. The more abusive the visitor is (the more invalid clicks, hundreds/thousands of useless impressions, etc), then the longer it will remain in our system.

If you visit your own domain names, chances are it will flag you quite quickly as an invalid visitor. We don't compare it to our member data, but we can tell by your behavior that you are not valid. For instance, does the average visitor visit 8 different domain names in 1 day from the same computer? No. Does the average visitor refresh a domain name 30 times? No - chances are that would be a member of ours that is viewing changes to his/her layout, etc. And sure, if you are a very slightly abusive visitor, you'll be in our database for maybe a few days, but if you come back again tomorrow - that term may be prolonged.

A unique visitor to us is based on the day of the visit. So it's almost like 24 hours, except that the same visitor on August 8th at 11 pm and August 9th at 1 am is counted to use as 2 unique visitors since they are on 2 different days. But that same visitor again at 9 pm August 9th is still counted as the same one from 1 am.

We do record, although do not archive or display your domain impressions, search impressions, and search unique visitors. I have thought about including the search unique visitors down the line. That would be once we start showing data for the separate revenue types (ZeroClick, PPC, and whatever else is to come (CPA ))

 

[goodkarmaco]

Thanks Matt for the clarity and honesty.

 

[Fragger]

That was ridiculously detailed and helpful at the same time. Very much appreciated.