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It seems to me that the number of high quality (or even good quality) domains expiring / dropping has gone down significantly in the last 6 months or so. I browse the Namejet, Godaddy and Dropcatch lists frequently but very rarely find anything that I'm super excited about (although I don't really trade the 4L / numerics market). I was wondering if this is just me, or have others also noticed a significant drying up of the market?
 
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AfternicAfternic
if you own 275K domains
chances are

that somebody would want one
even if the price is ridiculousy high

better
then when you own
1000 domains

do the math

I think it's wrong to see this from the seller side because in the end, it is the buyer who determines the success. In other words, when a buyer pays a ridiculous price, he does so at the expense of a single domain and not by the total registration number.
 
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I think it's wrong to see this from the seller side because in the end, it is the buyer who determines the success. In other words, when a buyer pays a ridiculous price, he does so at the expense of a single domain and not by the total registration number.

true

but you simply attract more of those potential buyers
who want only 1 domain
 
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Thats interesting. How many
I often have offers at $100 (maybe 2-3 per day), but a counter offer at $500 will be accepted maybe once every 10 offers. A counter at $2000 will be accepted maybe once every 50 offers.

So to make that amount of offers/sales, how many domainings are tou registering/week?
 
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Thats interesting. How many


So to make that amount of offers/sales, how many domainings are tou registering/week?
about 10 per day.
 
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Nice! I'm glad to hear that domaining is your lifestyle. How envy you!
 
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Don't discount hyphenated sales, there is a market for them. They are not fast sellers but the market does exist... check out recent hyphenated sales here and check the frequency and selling prices (these are only the sales that are reported obviously): https://namebio.com/?s==QDOygDN3ETM
Thanks for the link. That apartment-rentals(.com) for $106 on GD seems like a bargain.
 
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about 10 per day.
But I supose that to recieve offers you sre not selling domains on BIN- auction. You just register and wait for some end-user customer to contact you, right?
 
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Hey Ian, assuming if the domain has been expired for a long time (over 1 year), will Google still pass the PR and link juice over to your site?
 
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yes I was doing my weekly rounds of fishing and the last few months have not been great.
Domain King rick sells one name a year about 20 sales in 20 years.

Do you think the decline in good names has anything to do with china getting into the game more aggressively in last few years? or is it the drop catch services releasing fewer?
 
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Hey Ian, assuming if the domain has been expired for a long time (over 1 year), will Google still pass the PR and link juice over to your site?

I think most of the link juice is due to the number and quality of backlinks to the domain. So if the domain retains the number and quality of backlinks the link juice should pass even after being expired for years.
 
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maybe the domain owners just don't want to let them go ????
 
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It seems to me that the number of high quality (or even good quality) domains expiring / dropping has gone down significantly in the last 6 months or so. I browse the Namejet, Godaddy and Dropcatch lists frequently but very rarely find anything that I'm super excited about (although I don't really trade the 4L / numerics market). I was wondering if this is just me, or have others also noticed a significant drying up of the market?

  1. Work smart not hard.
  2. Always expect change, to survive seek it.
 
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Hey Ian, assuming if the domain has been expired for a long time (over 1 year), will Google still pass the PR and link juice over to your site?
Don't count on it. Google is smart enough to see if a domain was dropped. You might still get traffic from the old links, but probably very little organic search traffic for the new site.
 
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yes I was doing my weekly rounds of fishing and the last few months have not been great.
Domain King rick sells one name a year about 20 sales in 20 years.

Do you think the decline in good names has anything to do with china getting into the game more aggressively in last few years? or is it the drop catch services releasing fewer?
I suspect as easy as registars have bots with filters, all drops premiums previously set by then, they will autobuy. NNNN -LLLL- etc..etc...etc......etc........
 
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I am in the smae view with you, especially in Expireddomains most of the domain name are Typo domains ...
 
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High Value domains dont ever drop they will go to auction. Good domains drop daily but again they go to auction. Crumbs slide thru the cracks at times. The competition is fierce. Things have changed over the last two years. There's still money to be made from crumbs. If that is how you make your bread
 
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ICANN changed the rules a while back in regards to a high regard of making an attempt to notify owners of expiring domains. This proactive approach has probably saved many domains from entering the stream.

Go back 5 years there was not as many brokers in the game, now days, someone works for a domain sales company one year, the next year they are starting their own brokerage firm.

Yes, some people are paying what end users would pay on the aftermarkets. The funny thing is that domainers are paying more than end users. Domainers are an easier sell than the end user, as they know what domains sell for, whereas end users are clueless.

Unless you are building off a solid established portfolio already, and you are paying today's prices, be prepared to hold a while, and ready to lose money. Many of the players playing in the aftermarket, are selling their 96-2004 type domains, and sending that money back into the market. Whereas lots of new money is buying blind via credit card, or debt, and they are going to be in for a surprise on what this business is really like.

Escrow has not made things easy, after market commissions are creeping around 20% these type of factors really distract from reported domain sales, and what is actually received.
 
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HugeNames is playing in this area, paying $400 for domains like ClubFish.com, Stanley Pace is still bidding actively, I am seeing many new players with 300-1000 domains sitting in their portfolios. Many namepro members like Winnie Jang are paying up for brandables...

Many of these companies derive revenue from domainers, are are putting that capital right back into the market to compete directly with their customers. Really think about who you choose to do business with, your service providers, could be your worst competition, they have the luxury to use your profits against you, but you don't.
 
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after market commissions are creeping around 20% these type of factors really distract from reported domain sales, and what is actually received.

minus ( VAT ) taxes in some cases up to 50%
depending where you live
 
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