discuss Are you still finding high quality expiring domains?

[Bros]

It seems to me that the number of high quality (or even good quality) domains expiring / dropping has gone down significantly in the last 6 months or so. I browse the Namejet, Godaddy and Dropcatch lists frequently but very rarely find anything that I'm super excited about (although I don't really trade the 4L / numerics market). I was wondering if this is just me, or have others also noticed a significant drying up of the market?

 

[DNGear]

I am waiting for casino.com.

 

[Kate]

Fewer and fewer quality names are expiring. When they do, there is intense competition at the drops. You'll often end up paying end user price. What to do ? Secure good names before they drop. You need to go catch (purchase) 'em where they are.

I am waiting for casino.com.

sex.com has 40 bids at Namejet... why not

 

[briguy]

My theory..one variable to the scarcity is that the more people buying "ebooks" etc on making millions on flipping domains overnight..The harder it find good domains (within realistic prices)...Also came across a few free articles that give excellent tips and techniques.

Another personal factor..The premiums that I would have bought five years ago, I sure wouldn't think twice about today..Yeah, I learn from my mistakes especially the ones that cost me money.

 

[garptrader]

If domainers are willing to bid up to $XXX in an expiring domain auction, why aren't they willing to pay the same price for an aftermarket domain listed at Godaddy, SEDO, etc?

 

[wwwweb]

Hugedomains and registrars are not letting much slip through their fingers...I spend more time at GD close out now than at expired list. The quality at closeout is annoying, just slightly better. I do go more Than 2 weeks before seeing something worthy. I recently registered signslondon, fastestbusinessloans, riderbike from the closeout.

Huge domains alreddy catches everything, and sells it for crazy prices, so many of their auctions the past month were restarted as they were not paid for at dropcatch.

Then about 1.5 years ago they entered Godaddy auctions, and I have seen them pay close to $2k for some domains, at one point they jumping onto last minute bids with a $97 proxy.

Subpar name with some potential used to sell for about $102-$107, now you have to go over $200 to win them, as someone upped the floor.

That is just to much to pay, as some names take years, and others never sell. Stupid money is bidding on some names, some don't even make sense in English, and seeing non English speaking countries win them is not uncommon, just shows they have no clue what they are doing.

Other day at Godaddy within a few hours of the auction close, I was presented with a second chance offer as high bidder was disqualified, the next day the domain was redeemed. This could be that the domain owner was manipulating bids, I don't know, but I have never seen a same day disqualification of the high bidder.

That is why I say anytime you support drop catch, namebright you are proving huge names profits to come bid you up. If you like paying more, keep paying them more money, because clearly they are out for it all. They don't want to share with you, they are playing against you with your own money.

 

[Dondomainer]

Silence is golden

 

[wwwweb]

ICANN changed the rules a while back in regards to a high regard of making an attempt to notify owners of expiring domains. This proactive approach has probably saved many domains from entering the stream.

Go back 5 years there was not as many brokers in the game, now days, someone works for a domain sales company one year, the next year they are starting their own brokerage firm.

Yes, some people are paying what end users would pay on the aftermarkets. The funny thing is that domainers are paying more than end users. Domainers are an easier sell than the end user, as they know what domains sell for, whereas end users are clueless.

Unless you are building off a solid established portfolio already, and you are paying today's prices, be prepared to hold a while, and ready to lose money. Many of the players playing in the aftermarket, are selling their 96-2004 type domains, and sending that money back into the market. Whereas lots of new money is buying blind via credit card, or debt, and they are going to be in for a surprise on what this business is really like.

Escrow has not made things easy, after market commissions are creeping around 20% these type of factors really distract from reported domain sales, and what is actually received.

 

[kopipagi]

I think there are still some good names there. But catching them is more difficult nowdays, because big companies come to the game.

 

[frank-germany]

I often have offers at $100 (maybe 2-3 per day), but a counter offer at $500 will be accepted maybe once every 10 offers. A counter at $2000 will be accepted maybe once every 50 offers.

if I calculate that right
you earn more using the 2K usd offer

 

[wwwweb]

HugeNames is playing in this area, paying $400 for domains like ClubFish.com, Stanley Pace is still bidding actively, I am seeing many new players with 300-1000 domains sitting in their portfolios. Many namepro members like Winnie Jang are paying up for brandables...

Many of these companies derive revenue from domainers, are are putting that capital right back into the market to compete directly with their customers. Really think about who you choose to do business with, your service providers, could be your worst competition, they have the luxury to use your profits against you, but you don't.

 

[Dondomainer]

I am waiting for casino.com.

ahahahahhaha...omg

 

[deez007]

Honestly, 100% correct. Now i coudn't find good domains on dropped list everynight like it used to.
The more terrible is : people now are so crazy to pay the unprofitable price for domains that listed on NameJet, GD Auctions ( Expired , Close out). I can't believe they could spend those money for normal-qualify names.
And of course, there are always gems on Dropped List, but it's too hard to catch them nowaday.

In my opinion, if i were you, i just registered SaferPro.com
Almost of your list are hyphened domains, it's too hard to find end-users to buy this kind of domain names ( except German, Japanese, Russian, French). And for other names, i coudn't find any end-users for them

Don't discount hyphenated sales, there is a market for them. They are not fast sellers but the market does exist... check out recent hyphenated sales here and check the frequency and selling prices (these are only the sales that are reported obviously): https://namebio.com/?s==QDOygDN3ETM

 

[imadoer]

High Value domains dont ever drop they will go to auction. Good domains drop daily but again they go to auction. Crumbs slide thru the cracks at times. The competition is fierce. Things have changed over the last two years. There's still money to be made from crumbs. If that is how you make your bread

 

[Corey]

checkout @NameClerk.com posts Get em While they Last! Available .com's | Page 77 - NamePros

Cheers
Corey

 

[SpareDomains]

I've bought 26 expired .coms in da last couple of weeks at reg fee. My whole business model since 2003 has been basically reg fee into high xxx-10k. Not saying I never buy from an auction but it's rare as I like starting from $8 as every sale is basically all profit then minus $8 and possible renewal fees. Easier to hold out for the right offer when ya only got an initial $8 into something. Enjoy the challenge as well trying to turn an $8 investment into something.

As far as your "High Quality" filter my filter is basically .com and do I think a end user would pay high xxx+ for the domain if not I pass on it.

 

[smartwebby]

Are you still finding high quality expiring domains?

You bet!!

And I totally agree about silence being golden.

 

[AIS01]

I am waiting for casino.com.

hehehehehe.. Good choice..

 

[kopipagi]

If domainers are willing to bid up to $XXX in an expiring domain auction, why aren't they willing to pay the same price for an aftermarket domain listed at Godaddy, SEDO, etc?

LOL. I have the same question, it's confusing me all time.

 

[Iam_leun]

Silence is golden

Speech is Silver.

 

[davidc1]

I often have offers at $100 (maybe 2-3 per day), but a counter offer at $500 will be accepted maybe once every 10 offers. A counter at $2000 will be accepted maybe once every 50 offers.

 

[DomainVP]

I am waiting for casino.com.

any day now...

 

[frank-germany]

I think you still can find an catch decent domains
those are mine from the last 10 days or so
judge yourself

House-Power.com
DressingBaby.com
DoggiShop.com
LaBeautePro.com
Solar-Finanzierung.com ( financing )
SaferPro.com
AboutBeverly.com
SouthernLust.com
Family-Fit.com
BBW-Single.com
ShirtsLA.com
SolarInsite.com
SoftFeets.com
Baby-UK.com
ElevatedBeds.com

 

[ikhub]

I am waiting for casino.com.

Thats a big gamble you are risking

 

[GeorgeQuang]

Honestly, 100% correct. Now i coudn't find good domains on dropped list everynight like it used to.
The more terrible is : people now are so crazy to pay the unprofitable price for domains that listed on NameJet, GD Auctions ( Expired , Close out). I can't believe they could spend those money for normal-qualify names.
And of course, there are always gems on Dropped List, but it's too hard to catch them nowaday.

House-Power.com
DressingBaby.com
DoggiShop.com
LaBeautePro.com
Solar-Finanzierung.com ( financing )
SaferPro.com
AboutBeverly.com
SouthernLust.com
Family-Fit.com
BBW-Single.com
ShirtsLA.com
SolarInsite.com
SoftFeets.com
Baby-UK.com
ElevatedBeds.com

In my opinion, if i were you, i just registered SaferPro.com
Almost of your list are hyphened domains, it's too hard to find end-users to buy this kind of domain names ( except German, Japanese, Russian, French). And for other names, i coudn't find any end-users for them