Any parking company allowing "artificial traffic"?

[CrazyAboutDomains]

Basically, I am wondering if I could redirect traffic from different sites to my parked domain in order to increase earnings. Any ideas are welcome.
Many thanks!

 

[willmfftt]

Im glad you explained "artificial traffic" because i would've been really confused ha ha.

I dont see this being a problem but if your redirecting from a link on a developed site to a parked domain I don't seeing this having a good CTR. But you never know, wont hurt to try. Id like to here how this turns out if you end up doing it

 

[mis_chiff]

Im glad you explained "artificial traffic" because i would've been really confused ha ha.

I dont see this being a problem but if your redirecting from a link on a developed site to a parked domain I don't seeing this having a good CTR. But you never know, wont hurt to try. Id like to here how this turns out if you end up doing it

Might want to check that


Read the TOS of the perspective Parking company
this is from Bodis TOS
4.1.2 Member may not redirect traffic to his/her/its parked domain name.

 

[Kate]

AFAIK no legit parking company will allow this, because the advertising feed providers (Google/Yahoo/etc) dictate the conditions. What is allowed and disallowed is pretty much the same everywhere.

 

[CrazyAboutDomains]

I dont see this being a problem but if your redirecting from a link on a developed site to a parked domain I don't seeing this having a good CTR.

You are right: the CTR is insanely low.

AFAIK no legit parking company will allow this, because the advertising feed providers (Google/Yahoo/etc) dictate the conditions. What is allowed and disallowed is pretty much the same everywhere.

I was afraid of that. I thought it would be great to have a kind of "parked landing page" for monetizing traffic from different sources.

 

[willmfftt]

AFAIK no legit parking company will allow this, because the advertising feed providers (Google/Yahoo/etc) dictate the conditions. What is allowed and disallowed is pretty much the same everywhere.

I wouldn't think this would be an issue depending on the redirect. If it is a link within a developed site then it should be fine. If its a 301 redirect you will have an issue

 

[rtsurvivor]

Basically, I am wondering if I could redirect traffic from different sites to my parked domain in order to increase earnings. Any ideas are welcome.
Many thanks!

'theparkingplace.com'(I have a couple of site listed there) allows just about any traffic generating method you can think of.

|It's a free site and I'm not affiliated with them|

I listed my sites a couple of weeks ago and so far nothing. However, they do claim some pretty good sponsors.


I've looked at a bunch of other domain parking places and most allow only 'Type-In-traffic' and that's why I'm giving 'TheParkingPlace' a go.
RT... :tu:

Here's a big OOPS! I just reread the TOS of 'The Parking Place'. It turns out that they have pretty much the same rules as the other 'Domain parking' sites that restrict promoting.
RT...

 

[matt_bodis]

We actually do allow this (Bodis.com), however we didn't at one point and that TOS was never updated.

I guess we keep that in there to protect ourselves in case any major issue arises out of forwarding traffic to our parked pages.

There was a time when this type of traffic was not allowed by upstream providers, but now there is no definition of what is and isn't allowed so long that it converts / doesn't get charged back.

 

[biggie]

We actually do allow this (Bodis.com), however we didn't at one point and that TOS was never updated.

I guess we keep that in there to protect ourselves in case any major issue arises out of forwarding traffic to our parked pages.

There was a time when this type of traffic was not allowed by upstream providers, but now there is no definition of what is and isn't allowed so long that it converts / doesn't get charged back.

:talk:

Hi

seems to me, that by allowing "non type-in traffic" potentially could/would or can, dilute the overall value of the traffic to your servers.

by accepting non targeted traffic, the ctr will surely be lower and will affect/effect the click thru percentage as a whole.


i also see an issue with having a tos that prohibits such redirections, yet, according to your statements... still permits it.



that's deception to those who assume you're abiding by your written terms of use.

why?

do i have to elaborate?


however i do suggest you update tos asap to reflect what is permitted.


imo...

 

[matt_bodis]

:talk:

Hi

seems to me, that by allowing "non type-in traffic" potentially could/would or can, dilute the overall value of the traffic to your servers.

by accepting non targeted traffic, the ctr will surely be lower and will affect/effect the click thru percentage as a whole.


i also see an issue with having a tos that prohibits such redirections, yet, according to your statements... still permits it.



that's deception to those who assume you're abiding by your written terms of use.

why?

do i have to elaborate?


however i do suggest you update tos asap to reflect what is permitted.


imo...

I will glady update it. It is not meant to be deceptive to anyone, just something that needs to be updated as it is outdated.

Allowing non type-in traffic will not hurt anything on our end. A very high % of all traffic is non type-in, I think 30-40% last I checked, and that was quite some time ago. Parking traffic these days consists of a lot of backlink traffic, some search engine traffic, and arbitrage now that G allows it. Although we don't have much arbitrage on our network.

Allowing non type-in traffic would not affect CTR as a whole.

Times have slightly changed in terms of what is acceptable than back in the old days. These days it mostly comes down to conversions. Obviously we don't accept traffic such as adware, malware, etc. But one can "buy low and sell high" by redirecting traffic and trying to make a profit.

---------- Post added at 04:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:35 PM ----------

Edit: I have updated the TOS, thanks.

 

[Dhanishta]

In artificial traffiking,You sign up to a program that “syndicates” your content to an array of sites automatically for you in an attempt to get more people to see the article you have written. These services are designed to help you save time and generate traffic.
But,I dont think so this is real traffic for your site.

 

[CrazyAboutDomains]

...
Allowing non type-in traffic will not hurt anything on our end. A very high % of all traffic is non type-in, I think 30-40% last I checked, and that was quite some time ago. Parking traffic these days consists of a lot of backlink traffic, some search engine traffic, and arbitrage now that G allows it. Although we don't have much arbitrage on our network.

Allowing non type-in traffic would not affect CTR as a whole.

Ok, this is pretty much what I meant by "artificial traffic". I am opening an account and parking a few domains. Thank you!

 

[decades80]

To Matt: So I am allowed to redirect the traffic from a blocked domain to an unblocked domain? Google just blocks domains from time to time with no reason. The other day I just hand registered domain and it got blocked after 1 day or so. Google does not need reason to block it.

 

[biggie]

I will glady update it. It is not meant to be deceptive to anyone, just something that needs to be updated as it is outdated.

Allowing non type-in traffic will not hurt anything on our end. A very high % of all traffic is non type-in, I think 30-40% last I checked, and that was quite some time ago. Parking traffic these days consists of a lot of backlink traffic, some search engine traffic, and arbitrage now that G allows it. Although we don't have much arbitrage on our network.

Allowing non type-in traffic would not affect CTR as a whole.

Times have slightly changed in terms of what is acceptable than back in the old days. These days it mostly comes down to conversions. Obviously we don't accept traffic such as adware, malware, etc. But one can "buy low and sell high" by redirecting traffic and trying to make a profit.

---------- Post added at 04:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:35 PM ----------

Edit: I have updated the TOS, thanks.

Hi Matt

wasn't trying to accuse you of doing anything malicious, just giving possible perception scenerio.

Thanks for updating the TOS

 

[matt_bodis]

In artificial traffiking,You sign up to a program that “syndicates” your content to an array of sites automatically for you in an attempt to get more people to see the article you have written. These services are designed to help you save time and generate traffic.
But,I dont think so this is real traffic for your site.

If that is the case, it would probably not work well. I was only refering to what the OP said in the original post, and that is redirecting traffic from elsewhere. But elsewhere can be a lot of different places, and some are OK while others are not.

To Matt: So I am allowed to redirect the traffic from a blocked domain to an unblocked domain? Google just blocks domains from time to time with no reason. The other day I just hand registered domain and it got blocked after 1 day or so. Google does not need reason to block it.

Let me be frank and honest here. :tu: I don't also want this to come out the wrong way either so I'm trying to be careful in my wording.

G does not allow this, it is written in our terms with them that this is something they prohibit/police. Now, that does not mean it does not happen. I see it happen everywhere, on every parking company.

At Bodis I don't encourage it. But I also don't police it. Part of the fact has to do with that we don't just use G. Now 25% of our traffic is not on G because it is banned. And that traffic you can forward between domains because it is our system and our advertisers/ad networks monetizing it, and we can set our own rules.

In any case, G does police it. And sometimes they ban the forwarded domain as well if they find out about it. Once we had a bigger user have his entire portfolio banned as a punishment for all the forwarding he was doing. Since G knows every domain that is in your account, they have the ability to do that. I also confirmed with G that it was for that reason that his entire portfolio was banned. So $300/day down to almost nothing.

So long story short, it is against the G rules and I don't allow it and don't encourage it, but the ultimate responsibility stays with you.

Just stating the facts here not trying to give anyone ideas as these are not good ideas.



Now this topic title sort of freaks me out. "artificial traffic" doesn't sound right. :o It has to convert otherwise it will get charged back.

 

[equity78]

Matt is Google now allowing arbitrage ?

 

[matt_bodis]

G allows us to "monetize traffic". So whether it is redirect, arb, etc it would be allowed so long that it converts for advertisers and doesn't get charged back.

This has been the case since late 2011.

The few exceptions are redirecting banned domains, adware, spyware, malware, bestiality, child pornographay, and a few other things in that bunch.

 

[biggie]

i know before, you could send traffic from one name to another and it wasn't an issue.


and i believe the intented change that major parking companies implemented, to require users to direct traffic to their servers via nameserver setting only, was to prevent or at best, stifle redirected and paid for traffic.


someone please correct me if i am wrong about that.


but any ppc service that posts referrrer stats can see where your traffic is coming from.

 

[vbigdeli]

What about Trafficz?they still have Y!/Bing feed.

 

[mis_chiff]

Might want to check that


Read the TOS of the perspective Parking company
this is from Bodis TOS
4.1.2 Member may not redirect traffic to his/her/its parked domain name.

We actually do allow this (Bodis.com), however we didn't at one point and that TOS was never updated.

I guess we keep that in there to protect ourselves in case any major issue arises out of forwarding traffic to our parked pages.

There was a time when this type of traffic was not allowed by upstream providers, but now there is no definition of what is and isn't allowed so long that it converts / doesn't get charged back.

I guess this explains a lot