Alert!! Avoid this NamePros scammer

[kozey11]

His namepros account has been suspended, his name is digitalmarkets

You can still look at his account - i gave him his 1st negative review.. Thats what shocked me the most . heres the link to his account http://www.namepros.com/itrader.php?u=82439

Now the Story.. i posted an ad for wanted domains on namepros, he replied with a domain casinocashonline.com .. he said it earned approximately 5.60 a month, he was selling it for $70.. I asked for stats, he copied and pasted them to me but i wasnt convinced, i still asked for a screenshot but he asked me to trust him (My mistake)

He said he had 63 reviews on namepros (Which was true at the time), no negative rating so why would he mess it all up for just $70.. I even saw a positive review on his wall from someone i bought a domain from earlier that week so i said this must be genuine..

Paid via Paypal on the 20th of feb 2013.. he said name is registered at namejet, so its gna take 5-7 days to transfer to godaddy.. i was upset because i should have asked him where it was registered in the 1st place (2nd mistake)

I had gotten so comfortable with trading on namepros that i had brought my guards down. A few days later i changed my mind, i messaged him asking him to stop the transfer and give me my money back.. he didnt reply..

By the 1st of March i started to get worried, is namepros account said he hadn't been online since the 22nd of feb.. i opened a claim via paypal and i reported him to name pros mods

His account got suspended on namepros cos he didnt reply to them, he also didnt reply to my numerous emails either.

However my claim was closed, called paypal, they said he told them it was a domain, and as it is a domain, they dont protect sellers on Virtual goods.

I told them to check Whois for casinocashonline and they will see that its still regged in his name, he never transferred it.. they said theres nothing they can do. they asked me to call my bank

Eventually my Bank only refunded me $64 out of the $70 i spent.. so yh he can have the remaining $6 .. Just warning you guys about him.. I wonder why he had so many positive reviews on namepros!!

 

[Kate]

Usually somebody who has good TR and a 5-year history doesn't start scamming for a mere $70.
Possibly the account was hijacked without the actual holder being aware.

 

[Sabre]

As noted above, its very unusual for someone with that number of posts and that high a TR to try and scam another member, let alone for such a low amount.

The TR system normally works very well on NamePros - and the majority of posters here with a high TR are trustworthy individuals. I hope this experience of one bad egg doesn't sour your relationship with the trader rating system! I have used it many times in decision making (e.g. pay first, let them push afterwards) with no problems - its unfortunate that you managed to find the exception to the rule.

Glad to hear you got the majority of your money back though

 

[kozey11]

Usually somebody who has good TR and a 5-year history doesn't start scamming for a mere $70.
Possibly the account was hijacked without the actual holder being aware.

Yh thats what i thought initially, but he never replied to my numerous emails, or namepros emails,, yet he tried contesting my refund claim on paypal

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As noted above, its very unusual for someone with that number of posts and that high a TR to try and scam another member, let alone for such a low amount.

The TR system normally works very well on NamePros - and the majority of posters here with a high TR are trustworthy individuals. I hope this experience of one bad egg doesn't sour your relationship with the trader rating system! I have used it many times in decision making (e.g. pay first, let them push afterwards) with no problems - its unfortunate that you managed to find the exception to the rule.

Glad to hear you got the majority of your money back though

yh im happy i got the most of it back, but i dont know why he ignored me and namepros but responded to the claim on paypal

 

[HeyNow]

Paid via Paypal on the 20th of feb 2013.. he said name is registered at namejet, so its gna take 5-7 days to transfer to godaddy.. i was upset because i should have asked him where it was registered in the 1st place (2nd mistake)

I had gotten so comfortable with trading on namepros that i had brought my guards down. A few days later i changed my mind, i messaged him asking him to stop the transfer and give me my money back.. he didnt reply..

Based on your own words, it seems to me that YOU actually started the deal-breaking behavior by cancelling a deal mid-way through that deal. "A few days later i changed my mind," you say, and it sounds as if the reason you changed your mind is that YOU failed to confirm where the domain was registered.

The Seller may be a scoundrel, a thief, a scumbag - I'm not sure, nor convinced. Based on your account of the story, I believe the possibility exists that you pissed off the Seller by cancelling a $60 transaction halfway through that transaction, causing inconvenience and problems for the Seller. Have you ever tried cancelling a registrar transfer after approving it in the first place? It is probably a huge pain in the ass and the both registrars (Namejet and Godaddy) probably put the Seller through a punishing process to cancel a transfer both Seller and Buyer have already approved.

If you did that to me in the middle of a transaction, I might be inclined to say "f-ck you" and take the negative feedback.

 

[Chicken]

Based on your own words, it seems to me that YOU actually started the deal-breaking behavior by cancelling a deal mid-way through that deal. "A few days later i changed my mind," you say, and it sounds as if the reason you changed your mind is that YOU failed to confirm where the domain was registered.

The Seller may be a scoundrel, a thief, a scumbag - I'm not sure, nor convinced. Based on your account of the story, I believe the possibility exists that you pissed off the Seller by cancelling a $60 transaction halfway through that transaction, causing inconvenience and problems for the Seller. Have you ever tried cancelling a registrar transfer after approving it in the first place? It is probably a huge pain in the ass and the both registrars (Namejet and Godaddy) probably put the Seller through a punishing process to cancel a transfer both Seller and Buyer have already approved.

If you did that to me in the middle of a transaction, I might be inclined to say "f-ck you" and take the negative feedback.

And then you'd ignore any contacts from mods to clear it up?

The OP clearly shouldn't of backed out, but the seller is MIA, he didn't even initiate the transfer between the 3 days the OP decided to back out.

 

[HeyNow]

And then you'd ignore any contacts from mods to clear it up?

The OP clearly shouldn't of backed out, but the seller is MIA, he didn't even initiate the transfer between the 3 days the OP decided to back out.

Yes, the seller is MIA. I'd give the seller the benefit of the doubt and be patient. I'm surprised Namepros would banish such a member considering the small amount of money involved, the 100% positive Namepros feedback through 28 transactions, and the possibility that something like a family emergency or sudden death or serious illness could have de-railed the seller. Or, the seller could have suddenly gone off the deep end and become a schmuck overnight, eager to blow his reputation and Namepros account over sixty or seventy bucks. Does that seem likely to you?

 

[4pm]

A few days later i changed my mind, i messaged him asking him to stop the transfer and give me my money back..

can you please clarify what you meant by that - "A few days later i changed my mind"?

how could one cancel agreed price deal especially after the money were sent? i would say it was you who ruined the deal.. i'm not saying that the seller was behaving properly by not returning your messages and all but it really looks like it was not entirely his fault.. you deserve negative rating as well ..or i'm missing smth?

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[the_poet]

Usually somebody who has good TR and a 5-year history doesn't start scamming for a mere $70.
Possibly the account was hijacked without the actual holder being aware.

Exactly. Reputation is your most valuable asset: you only have one and once you sells yours, you're out of the business.

 

[south]

I have also done business with digitalmarkets (other forum), and never had a problem. I find it hard to believe he'd sacrifice his reputation for such a trivial amount of money. I'd like to hear the other side of the story as well.

 

[Tia Wood]

However my claim was closed, called paypal, they said he told them it was a domain, and as it is a domain, they dont protect sellers on Virtual goods.

but he never replied to my numerous emails, or namepros emails,, yet he tried contesting my refund claim on paypal

Sometimes this process is automated if "virtual goods" is selected beforehand. Maybe he didn't contest anything, but paypal just automatically rejected it?

Not excusing anything here but it does seem odd how suddenly a long term user with good history isn't responding over $70.

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Paid via Paypal on the 20th of feb 2013.. he said name is registered at namejet, so its gna take 5-7 days to transfer to godaddy.. i was upset because i should have asked him where it was registered in the 1st place (2nd mistake)

I had gotten so comfortable with trading on namepros that i had brought my guards down. A few days later i changed my mind, i messaged him asking him to stop the transfer and give me my money back.. he didnt reply..

Yeah, it does sound like you were the one who backed out on the deal.

Either way you should either get your money back or the domain. Do you have either one?

 

[kozey11]

Based on your own words, it seems to me that YOU actually started the deal-breaking behavior by cancelling a deal mid-way through that deal. "A few days later i changed my mind," you say, and it sounds as if the reason you changed your mind is that YOU failed to confirm where the domain was registered.

The Seller may be a scoundrel, a thief, a scumbag - I'm not sure, nor convinced. Based on your account of the story, I believe the possibility exists that you pissed off the Seller by cancelling a $60 transaction halfway through that transaction, causing inconvenience and problems for the Seller. Have you ever tried cancelling a registrar transfer after approving it in the first place? It is probably a huge pain in the ass and the both registrars (Namejet and Godaddy) probably put the Seller through a punishing process to cancel a transfer both Seller and Buyer have already approved.

If you did that to me in the middle of a transaction, I might be inclined to say "f-ck you" and take the negative feedback.

I didnt back down midway through the deal! I paid on the 20th of feb.. he said the domain would take 5-7days; By the 28th of feb, i hadnt heard anything so i emailed him asking for cancelation.

At the end of the day he was very reluctant to provide Stats. And one more thing.,, even if i pissed him off, does that mean he should take my money and the domain??? Without responding to me??

Yes i know he has great reviews which is what confuses me till this day..

But i also know that his actions put me in a bad situation. SO yeah it was a $70 deal and it wasnt half way through, it twas after 7 days i decided to cancel. and i didnt go straight to paypal i emailed him 1st and he never replied..

So don't blame me, blame him!

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And then you'd ignore any contacts from mods to clear it up?

The OP clearly shouldn't of backed out, but the seller is MIA, he didn't even initiate the transfer between the 3 days the OP decided to back out.

I didnt back out 3 days after, i backed out about 7days after and he never responded...

The reason i backed out was because he was repeatedly ignoring my mail when iasked him for more details even after i had paid.

The name is still in his name so it means he never initiated a transfer

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Yes, the seller is MIA. I'd give the seller the benefit of the doubt and be patient. I'm surprised Namepros would banish such a member considering the small amount of money involved, the 100% positive Namepros feedback through 28 transactions, and the possibility that something like a family emergency or sudden death or serious illness could have de-railed the seller. Or, the seller could have suddenly gone off the deep end and become a schmuck overnight, eager to blow his reputation and Namepros account over sixty or seventy bucks. Does that seem likely to you?

I don't know.. but the bottom line is - 2weeks after i paid him, i didn't get no domain name. reported on paypal and he provided them with information that made me lose

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Sometimes this process is automated if "virtual goods" is selected beforehand. Maybe he didn't contest anything, but paypal just automatically rejected it?

Not excusing anything here but it does seem odd how suddenly a long term user with good history isn't responding over $70.

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Yeah, it does sound like you were the one who backed out on the deal.

Either way you should either get your money back or the domain. Do you have either one?

I didn't back out on any deal, 7 days later i got suspicious and asked for ma money back. is anything wrong with that??

And no he didnt give me my money back he disputed my claim with paypal; it was my bank who refunded me $63 instead

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I have also done business with digitalmarkets (other forum), and never had a problem. I find it hard to believe he'd sacrifice his reputation for such a trivial amount of money. I'd like to hear the other side of the story as well.

Well if he ever decides to return to namepros you can ask him why