$3000 A Day Domainer ~ OFFICIAL THREAD

[RJ]

This is the official discussion thread for the $3000 a Day Domainer.

Questions, comments, and feedback on their methods and how they worked or didn't work for you are welcome here in this thread.

This is not for discussion of the NamePros skin. If you have feedback on the skin or ad campaign, please use this other thread.

 

[DotUSDomains]

Do you have an example of a domain you own that is an "exotic" CCtld that makes good money from it being a hand reg ?

If you dont mind me asking

 

[3000aday]

Kev and I both were hitting on top words in obscure extensions, like poker.ext, business.ext etc. I had also done some .in, .cc, .tv, and some other more mainstream ones and my largest sale ever is a .in, but again there was a time when the obscure extensions were gold mines as long as you went after the right words...like poker in any extension was min $1,500 reseller vaule for a while and that wasn't that long after there were probably handfuls sitting around to register. Now anyone getting one is getting it off the drop and having to move quickly even to do that.

I'm not saying there's NO opportunity in ccTLDs, but I don't think it can exactly be considered a hidden gold mine anymore. Maybe the only area I can think of that doesn't get hit quite as much still is ccTLD typos of sites, but you reeeeally have to know what you're doing still to get the good ones because you don't have the luxury of a grace period and the reg fees are a lot higher. In general though ccTLDs are now more or less on the same playing field as the other niches in domaining and just like those, one must factor opportunity vs. competition. In 2004 there was verrry little competition in the obscure ccTLDs - like shooting fish in a barrel for those of us paying attention to them, which was the point I was making - getting in on ccTLDs in 2004 is equivalent to getting into the major exts at the turn of the decade or earlier. This program even in 2005 or 2006 would be great timing - now I'm not so sure it's that easy to get into.

For what it's worth, anyone wanting to get into ccTLDs I would suggest do some heavy research and/or get knowledge/expertise through someone with a lot of experience in them like you or I because it's a whole different mindset than .com domaining, that's for sure.

Another Solid post. Good information and you definitely know your stuff and we think it just proves our point in that you know those markets/niches well (.in, .cc, .tv and poker.ext) while our expertise is not in those extensions. We missed the .in landrush (unfortunately as we think people who dominated that have built GREAT portfolios with big long term value). So when you say there is no ccTLD opportunity, we think you really mean there is not as much opportunity in the markets you are focused on. We just picked up an expired ccTLD domain for reg fee on 2/17 and it has already made $44 in 18 or so days. This particular market is not exploited and there is money to be made.

As we have stressed in our previous emails to the newsletter subscribers and which can be found on the video page, just like .com domains, there is hundreds of ways to invest in ccTLD domains.

- Find Unregistered Domains With Traffic (yes it is harder but still very possible in some markets)

- Buy 1 letter domains from private owners under perceived market value

- Pickup expired domains for traffic

- Pickup expired domains for Pagerank

- Buy generics with revenue just like as is done in .com

- Buy 2-3 word long tail generics in large countries with expanding internet marketplace

- Buy 2 letter domains

- Buy 3 letter domains in bigger ccTLDs (We think there are a few already sold out)

- etc, etc, etc...

We focus maybe on 1 or 2 of the above but its really a matter of finding something that works for THAT PERSON and scaling it.

 

[mtford]

Perhaps not word for word, however what you're selling is probably pretty much a step A to step B approach to finding domains to earn parking revenue, and this WILL be spoken off and blogged about once it's available.

You can't claim ownership on instructions how to find profitable domains for parking, good luck trying to enforce that legally.

Indeed. If sharing this information were illegal, most of the book reviews on Amazon would be illegal, i.e. "this cookbook told me to put raw onion in my cupcakes, they taste awful. 1star.". College essays and commentaries on copyright works of fiction would similarly be illegal. Anyhow, as Damion says, the legal issues are irrelevant: the contents WILL be discussed on this forum if you're lucky enough to sell one copy to an NP member. As for why NP members would share their profit-making strategies with others... well, this forum wouldn't exist if we never did that.

 

[steveteva]

Who is behind $3000 a day?

I know who is behind $3000 a day. will not post here because don't know if owner want to be reveal.

Just browse DNmedia website to find out.

 

[owntype]

Just browse DNmedia website to find out.

Just read the 2 posts on your site, good work and very interesting. Thanks!

 

[Sameh]

Just read the 2 posts on your site, good work and very interesting. Thanks!

It's Michael's (NP Mod) blog.

 

[owntype]

It's Michael's (NP Mod) blog.

ouch! thanks for pointing out! EG

 

[steveteva]

Just read the 2 posts on your site, good work and very interesting. Thanks!

It's not my site but someone else. Just found the info. :wave:

 

[ZOX]

It's Michael's (NP Mod) blog.

No $hit!...NOTHING gets by you guys! :lol:

 

[discovernow]

I been around domaining since 1998 and have not read through this thread yet.
Just one question, is this 3000 a day thing a bunch of hype or is it for real?

 

[Michael]

removed

 

[Sam]

Dont invest in ccTLDS! HORRIBLE INVESTMENT! These guys dunno what they are bloody saying! Stay with the tried and true .com!

hey,

Ill sell you my 1 letters at ONLY 1 DAY SALARY for each one!!!

Surely must be pennies for you guys! After all, shouldn't one back that talk with action?

Let me know @ [email protected]

cheers,
sam

Another Solid post. Good information and you definitely know your stuff and we think it just proves our point in that you know those markets/niches well (.in, .cc, .tv and poker.ext) while our expertise is not in those extensions. We missed the .in landrush (unfortunately as we think people who dominated that have built GREAT portfolios with big long term value). So when you say there is no ccTLD opportunity, we think you really mean there is not as much opportunity in the markets you are focused on. We just picked up an expired ccTLD domain for reg fee on 2/17 and it has already made $44 in 18 or so days. This particular market is not exploited and there is money to be made.

As we have stressed in our previous emails to the newsletter subscribers and which can be found on the video page, just like .com domains, there is hundreds of ways to invest in ccTLD domains.

- Find Unregistered Domains With Traffic (yes it is harder but still very possible in some markets)

- Buy 1 letter domains from private owners under perceived market value

- Pickup expired domains for traffic

- Pickup expired domains for Pagerank

- Buy generics with revenue just like as is done in .com

- Buy 2-3 word long tail generics in large countries with expanding internet marketplace

- Buy 2 letter domains

- Buy 3 letter domains in bigger ccTLDs (We think there are a few already sold out)

- etc, etc, etc...

We focus maybe on 1 or 2 of the above but its really a matter of finding something that works for THAT PERSON and scaling it.

 

[-Adam-]

Michael, Great work on getting more info.

 

[Brujah]

Michael, that's not very thorough at all. That's poor investigative work on your end and you should be careful doing that in a negative light.

A simple check shows phone.addresses.com and phone.theyellowpages.com have different ip #'s, and aren't anywhere near the same server, host, or even state.

phone.addresses.com. 172800 IN A 64.94.125.138
phone.theyellowpages.com. 172800 IN A 64.94.125.129

It looks like you just used a web tool and took their word for it as having accurate information.
http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/web-sites-on-web-server/

 

[h2o]

I would be interested in those freshly registered, $1 a day revenue ccTLDs if they can be found. What is the most recent registration of a decent type in traffic name?

 

[Michael]

You're right Brujah, thanks for bringing that to my attention. I've used that tool in the past to check several hundred sites hosted on the same server and it was accurate then, so I took the results for granted. Turns out it returned incorrect results. I have deleted my posts, and I would like to sincerely apologize to the $3,000 a day domainer, whoever you may be.

 

[Brujah]

I admit the mystery and intrigue is sexier, but I think the offering should be reviewed based on the actual information it provides. So far it seems pretty solid and has provided me with additional opportunities to think outside the box and dabble in some ccTLDs armed with the advantages I've learned from the videos.

I wasn't very keen on ccTLDs before, but I picked up some new names today. I'll post my results once I actually know how they'll start performing.

 

[Sam]

ccTLD landrush is way over. While everyone bickered over stuff such as .eu and .mobi, me and a few smart ones were playing wild wild west ccTLD exotic goldrush.

Only viable way is ccTLD typos, if you dare venture there, and THAT is a real risky method ever since OVT died off, not much reliable data sources.

I would like proof of a 3000$ a day revenue off typeins and typos, i really find that hard to believe, unless you were really early in the game, and I was doing this during the 06 cctld rush.

 

[Ross]

ccTLD landrush is way over. While everyone bickered over stuff such as .eu and .mobi, me and a few smart ones were playing wild wild west ccTLD exotic goldrush.

Only viable way is ccTLD typos, if you dare venture there, and THAT is a real risky method ever since OVT died off, not much reliable data sources.

I would like proof of a 3000$ a day revenue off typeins and typos, i really find that hard to believe, unless you were really early in the game, and I was doing this during the 06 cctld rush.

I do not put it past them making 3k a day from ccTLDs. I know it can be done but what i think they have done is put together a large portfolio of premium ccTLDs. This could have easily been done even a year ago. You still can pick up great one word domains in ccTLD extension to this day. Only problem is most of them get little to no traffic without development. High paying terms have been sucked up along with quite a few long tail keyword domains in these extensions.

By putting this type of portfolio together gives them credibility and allows them to create a "buzz". Since ccTLDs are pretty new to most people, even ones that have been here for a while, by showing them that they make money puts people on the button. It's almost as if ccTLDs were always there but no one cared unless they make money.

On top of that along with the credibility comes the products they may or may not sell. Just like stated in this thread these types of marketing strategies have been applied in the past and are prolly being put to the test here. This does not mean its a scam, just be prepared to spend the money or not to spend the money. Is the info good? I really do not know. Is the info bad? Who knows, actually could make you some money.

All i know is that they are actually putting a foot out there to educate you and everyone else out there on ccTLDs with FREE info along with, prolly, paid info. Take it with a grain of salt or take it to the heart, the choice is yours.

 

[Sam]

Traffic = Money
No Traffic = Loss

even the best keywords in cctlds were NOT making me enough money. Hell I had PORN in one language in the local cctld, didnt even make back reg fee.

No point to reg any keywords that make no money or help you break even.

I smell fishy stuff. I challenge 3000 a day to buy one of my one letter names. Ill sell my whole package for only $100k USD :sold:

I do not put it past them making 3k a day from ccTLDs. I know it can be done but what i think they have done is put together a large portfolio of premium ccTLDs. This could have easily been done even a year ago. You still can pick up great one word domains in ccTLD extension to this day. Only problem is most of them get little to no traffic without development. High paying terms have been sucked up along with quite a few long tail keyword domains in these extensions.

By putting this type of portfolio together gives them credibility and allows them to create a "buzz". Since ccTLDs are pretty new to most people, even ones that have been here for a while, by showing them that they make money puts people on the button. It's almost as if ccTLDs were always there but no one cared unless they make money.

On top of that along with the credibility comes the products they may or may not sell. Just like stated in this thread these types of marketing strategies have been applied in the past and are prolly being put to the test here. This does not mean its a scam, just be prepared to spend the money or not to spend the money. Is the info good? I really do not know. Is the info bad? Who knows, actually could make you some money.

All i know is that they are actually putting a foot out there to educate you and everyone else out there on ccTLDs with FREE info along with, prolly, paid info. Take it with a grain of salt or take it to the heart, the choice is yours.

 

[Ross]

Traffic = Money
No Traffic = Loss

even the best keywords in cctlds were NOT making me enough money. Hell I had PORN in one language in the local cctld, didnt even make back reg fee.

No point to reg any keywords that make no money or help you break even.

I smell fishy stuff.

I too have regged quite a few "duds" in ccTLD extensions but i have hit some with some traffic and revenue. The thing i think besides getting premium names that the 3k a day domainer did was scale the process. This is why i am thinking there is a company or multiple people backing this. Can any ONE domainer do this? IMO, prolly not. The techniques can obviously be applied if they truly do have good information and scaled but there is only so much room for this as well. Another reason i think these techniques will be "exposed", make more money.

 

[Kenny]

Traffic = Money
No Traffic = Loss

even the best keywords in cctlds were NOT making me enough money. Hell I had PORN in one language in the local cctld, didnt even make back reg fee.

No point to reg any keywords that make no money or help you break even.

I smell fishy stuff. I challenge 3000 a day to buy one of my one letter names. Ill sell my whole package for only $100k USD :sold:

That is the most self serving, shameless post I've seen in a long time.

You smell fish? Tell us, Sam. Back up your nose.

Cyberian

 

[Sam]

That is the most self serving, shameless post I've seen in a long time.

You smell fish? Tell us, Sam. Back up your nose.

Cyberian

I dont bother with "moral" debates anymore, especially since I already know where you stand. Why bother even bringing it back up? Yes I am shameless of what I do. I live a happy life, and I don't appreciate a moderator putting a damning post like that. Of course I don't give a shit what anyone online thinks, most everyone I know want to get into what I do :lol: .

Fact of the matter is I call BS on 3000 a day, and until I see proof, everyone should question it.

If porn in peruvian cant make you back reg fee, oh btw a "generic", happy now purist?, how in the world are you going to make profit out of this "cctld strategy"?

I've lost lots of money on crappy cctlds before I realized what I was doing wrong. DONT LET IT HAPPEN TO YOU!

I mus hand it down to 3000 a day though, lately the one letters have been getting many bids, albiet lowballs.

 

[samuelhr]

This is simply an exercise in increasing their domain value (well, 'value', more like what people are willing to pay.) It's clever and I'll commend them for the idea, I don't agree with it though. It's just like those god awful buyout threads which encourage 'inexperienced' domainers to buy useless domains with only resale value, no end user value. It's up to RJ what he does with namepros, however I'd expect him to be at least a bit diligent? This is quite clearly an attempt at increasing the value of ccTLDs and it's going to catch a lot of 'new' users off guard.

I agree with Sam, btw.

 

[mtford]

I've been looking into the proxy registrar services discussed in the 3000/day videos - i.e. ways to register domains in countries where a local presence is required. I'm particularly interested in .FR, since I know the language. However, I seem to hit two problems:

• There are stories about the French registry (and other countries too, e.g. Canada) confiscating domains from people who have dodged the rules. The proxy concept doesn't seem entirely legal, unless the registrar retains ownership of the domain.
• The 3000/day video talks about registering domains in countries with a "$6" reg fee rather than a $20 fee... but I can't find anyone offering a proxy service at those prices. OVH is giving away .FR domains at 0.90 EUR/year to those who satisfy the rules, while AllDomainRegistrar is charging 15 EUR registration plus 20 EUR per domain for the proxy address. Foreign domainers cannot compete if we have to pay 39 times the local price.