$3000 A Day Domainer ~ OFFICIAL THREAD

[RJ]

This is the official discussion thread for the $3000 a Day Domainer.

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[Domainace]

I dunno. There's nothing wrong per se with trying to make a buck; that's why we're all here right? But I just can't figure out their game, and that is bugging the heck out of me. Gotta be something more than just looking to capture email addresses, with the amount of money they're spending on marketing.

ripley.

You are being seduced.

This concept is very popular among internet marketers right now. It goes like this:

1-The marketer offers something really valuable/useful for free- or, rather, for an active email address. After you sign up, you receive an automatic email asking for confirmation that you really did sign up. The reason for this is two-fold:

a) To make sure they don't get spam complaints from people who didn't actually sign up (as in someone else entering their email.)

b)To make sure that the email address is live. As said above, this is all about collected emails (but not for sale to a third party.)

2- The marketer send more information/useful stuff. You start to look forward to the emails. And while he's doing this he's subliminally creating
intrigue, envy desire and greed.

Oh, and since he's not yet selling anything, he's building trust.

3- Obviously the intrigue part is working. Since everybody here is talking about it. I sense a bit of envy, greed and desire bubbling up, as well.
So far, they've fallen short on trust - mostly because they are being a bit lazy. It's easy to load up a bunch of email messages to be delivered every 5 days in perpetuity while you're at the beach. It's harder to follow up and respond to forum postings.

4- If the marketers do this well, they will eventually overcome the trust issue by giving away good free info, maybe even a piece of software to help you mine names. They will post here and become your buddies who give you great stuff for free.

5-Once the above is accomplished, they start dropping hints about a brilliant, earth-shattering software/method that will make you a fabulously rich domainer. Of course, they have to limit the number of people who can be allowed to see this brilliant path to riches. Only the first lucky 100 will be allowed to see it.

6-The offer will be very time sensitive. There will be some compelling reason that you must act quickly and send your money now. This may be enforced by a timer clicking down on their website, showing you have only 24 hours to go. The timer may or may not be real. If not, then it just goes on forever. If it is real (which builds more credibility) the product will be SOLD OUT. Even if the price is $977.

7-If you see other people jumping on board, you might panic at the last minute and jump to buy. You will get a message that says:

"Sorry, we sold out in hours. You should have acted, rather than being timid....However, we can put your name on a list. We may open up ten extra spots in a week or two if people drop out or don't pay. Watch carefully for that email. We will only open the spots for 3 hours, so don't dilly-dally!"

8- Six months later you will see the same product, or a knock-off of it by the same people, on Ebay for $7.

It's all a system designed to get people excited and extract cash. I have no idea whether their final product will be any good or not. As said above, screenshots of earnings are meaningless because they are easily faked or manipulated. Likewise, testimonials (they will come later) are meaningless. They may be fake, or they may be from people who have something to gain by promoting the product.

My advice? Take all the free stuff and free info you can get. When the pitch comes, nobody's forcing you to buy.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

The screenshots are pretty convincing though. Would they hold more weight if we had them verified by Sedo as legitimate?

No. I've seen way too many online companies over the past 10 years present false sales data with a client or affiliate to pump up interest in their company. This goes on *all the time* in fact.

Here is a fake Sedo screenshot I easily made multiplying their traffic & earnings x50 for one day (notice mine also has the CTR column as it appears on Sedo, theirs does not). Are you convinced that I make $170,000 a day? :D

http://i40.tinypic.com/1zz2tfa.jpg

I made it in a way that not one single pixel is out of place from the would-be genuine. When sized in proportion to the numbers on their screenshot and then blown up, theirs does not jive with the current Sedo design. One possible explanation is that it has changed since 9/08. I don't know.

I'm not trying slam anyone here. I'm just saying.... Take screenshots like a worthless grain of salt.

 

[Damion]

Fair enough statement. The screenshots are pretty convincing though. Would they hold more weight if we had them verified by Sedo as legitimate?

Well to be honest screenshots don't mean anything really, with a few tricks i can fake screenshots of pretty much anything textual on a web page and you wouldn't be able to spot the difference.

If someone from Sedo could jump in and verify, then we know for sure the 3K/day their boasting to be making is true, so that helps people know if they are dealing with a fraudster and wasting time and money, or learn from someone that could potentially help people make a profit.

As of now the warning signs are in full effect! :bingo:

 

[kev]

Kev knows his stuff too people - I was in it before he went strong in it and it was stiff competition like him who were adamantly sniffing out all the good domains right away that got me out of it. It's the truth - it's no longer a non-competitive and treasure-filled niche of domaining.

:bingo:

Back in 2006/2007, there was only maybe 3/4 avid followers of cctlds on Namepros. We basically controlled the market of cctlds on here. We set the prices high (i.e. min $1500 price tags for poker.ext and casino.ext names) and made some good profits.

Poker pk $2,250 May 06 Afternic
Poker md $2,000 May 05 Sedo
Poker vc $1,655 Apr 06 Afternic
Poker tc $1,575 Apr 06 Afternic
Poker sh $1,500 Apr 06 Afternic
Poker gs $1,500 Apr 05 Afternic
Poker bs $3,600 May 06 Ebay
Poker ug $1,500 Jun 06 Ebay

Now the market is saturated. I check some registrars to see if they have released names every 3 or 4 days and have been doing so since 2006. Ive spent ages trying to translate foreign registrar websites to see when they were allowing registrations. Take .cr as an example. I was up at 4am registering names at $100 a time on a spanish website during their landrush and still only managed to get 6/7 nice one letter names, only to find people like Sam were registering at the same time as me despite no publicity campaign by the NIC or a leak on Namepros.

You've got to be on the ball for cctlds and have years of experience if you want to make money. Typos are a different story all together. I spent $350 on a .com.pe which had no alexa rank and no obvious traffic signs but was a popular site in another country close to Peru. So I went for it. Turned out to have 100,000 uniques/month and made about 8 euros a day and I sold it for $7100. It was just a hunch and it paid off. But Ive spent a lot on really dodgy names aswell.

Im by no means rolling in it. I reckon I will be a millionaire sometime in the future if I play my cards right. $3000 a day is mind-boggling to me and if true, I dont know how you've done it!

 

[kriss05]

From everything I have read in this thread it seems to me that 3000aday really knows what he says. What he wrote in the thread is completelly true for cctlds. As to availability, I would say that from my point of view, if someone has low $X,XXX to invest into traffic cctlds, it is quite enough for the beginning.

It doesn't matter the extension for the name but the place/country for the incoming traffic.

This is very true in case of traffic monetization.

It is obvious that there is lot of available cctlds with type in traffic, say, of XX-X,XXX uniques/month (and even gtlds). These are not only 1-2-3 letter domains. However, sometimes it is rather difficult to monetize cctlds type in traffic. I mean exotic cctlds with high renewal fees. In this case regfee is the problem. Say I know few available domains with guaranteed type in traffic of X,XXX/month but I don't register them because there is a risk not to get a profit from them. If, for example, regfee is $50 and domain gets X,XXX uniques/month, you have to be able to earn $100+/year to get a real profit ($50 to cover regfee + $50 renewal fee + profit). It is the case if you expect to get profit only from the traffic.

it results in conclusion that someone needs to have some good skills in few languages and good knowledge of traffic monetization. Someone has to have time to construct websites in various languages (with custom content, affiliate links etc.) or have money to hire someone with programming skills. Definitely, a better idea is to have a team where someone, say, spends all time for searching domains and someone deals with traffic monetization. Of course, it is always possible to sell nonconverting traffic domains at forums but people don't pay high $$ for high traffic domains if these don't convert well and the name itself is not premium one. Probably you will cover regfee and get few extra $$ but it is not the right way IMO. The right way is successful traffic monetization.

What I want to say: IMO it is pretty easy to find available cctlds (gtlds too but in a lesser extent) with type-in traffic but be very careful, it is only 1/2 of the success. You have to be able to get a real profit from them.

 

[RegFee]

I just watched the video. Very interesting!

I'm itchin' to find something new, since most of the standard domaining opportunities do seem a bit dried up.

Looking forward to more videos!

 

[ZOX]

This is the official discussion thread for the the $3000 a Day Domainer.

Questions, comments, and feedback on their methods and how they worked or didn't work for you are welcome here in this thread.

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Great...it looks like a bunch of us Namepro'ers started threads about this...(including me! :lol!

 

[ripley]

*shrug* As always, if they were making that much money doing this, why reveal their methods? "'Cause we want to promote ccTLDs" is sort of hollow.

ripley.

 

[ZOX]

*shrug* As always, if they were making that much money doing this, why reveal their methods? "'Cause we want to promote ccTLDs" is sort of hollow.

ripley.

That's the FIRST thing that I thought...NOBODY making this kind of money is going to "reveal" their "secrets"!

 

[ripley]

That's the FIRST thing that I though...NOBODY making this kind of money is going to "reveal" their "secrets"!

Well, "reveal" their methods is probably inaccurate; "sell" their methods is more like it. Still, if it's working that well for them, I can't see any reason to even sell it. Presumably if these methods work well enough to help them earn $3k/day, and there's room for other people to do the exact same thing, then why not just keep it to themselves and make $9k/day?

ripley.

 

[namenut]

Great...it looks like a bunch of us Namepro'ers started threads about this...(including me! :lol!

Guilty

nn

 

[Ross]

Well, "reveal" their methods is probably inaccurate; "sell" their methods is more like it. Still, if it's working that well for them, I can't see any reason to even sell it. Presumably if these methods work well enough to help them earn $3k/day, and there's room for other people to do the exact same thing, then why not just keep it to themselves and make $9k/day?

ripley.

My exact thoughts. I skimmed through the video, is it the same one that was on Rick's blog?

 

[ZOX]

Well, "reveal" their methods is probably inaccurate; "sell" their methods is more like it. Still, if it's working that well for them, I can't see any reason to even sell it. Presumably if these methods work well enough to help them earn $3k/day, and there's room for other people to do the exact same thing, then why not just keep it to themselves and make $9k/day?

ripley.

Ditto ripley!
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I kind of feel guilty to start this thread so skeptical, though

 

[ripley]

Ditto ripley!
...
I kind of feel guilty to start this thread so skeptical, though

Hey, I'd be ecstatic to be proven wrong. I could use $3k extra per month much less per day.

ripley.

 

[ZOX]

Hey, I'd be ecstatic to be proven wrong. I could use $3k extra per month much less per day.

ripley.

Yeah...let's have ALL NamePros members making $3000 a day! :lol:
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That'll REALLY STIMULATE the World Economy! :lol:

 

[RJ]

They've been able to make $3000/day by investing in ccTLDs which gives them some level of authority on the subject, but I don't see them promising or being able to promise anyone that they'll able to make the same amount. Domaining doesn't work that way, your results will always vary.

However I can see someone making a nice little side income by applying the same methods they're using to select domain names. If you can use it to make even $30 a day profit, how bad would that be?

Overall, I was impressed with their presentation and picked up a few new things that I hadn't considered before.

-rj-

 

[ZOX]

They've been able to make $3000/day by investing in ccTLDs which gives them some level of authority on the subject, but I don't see them promising or being able to promise anyone that they'll able to make the same amount. Domaining doesn't work that way, your results will always vary.

However I can see someone making a nice little side income by applying the same methods they're using to select domain names. If you can use it to make even $30 a day profit, how bad would that be?

Overall, I was impressed with their presentation and learned a few things that I hadn't known before.

-rj-

I'll certainly look at what they have to offer...a small percent of $3K a day is still good.

 

[ripley]

They've been able to make $3000/day by investing in ccTLDs which gives them some level of authority on the subject, but I don't see them promising or being able to promise anyone that they'll able to make the same amount.

That's true, but then they don't really need to; the screaming "$3000 a day domainer" headline for the program does that for them by implication.

That being said, I'm always ready to learn something new, and I don't mind paying to benefit from someone else's genuine experience. We'll see what they've got for us. I'm watching.

ripley.

 

[RJ]

That's true, but then they don't really need to; the screaming "$3000 a day domainer" headline for the program does that for them by implication.

True, and I assume that's an implication they don't mind putting out there. The title reminds me a bit of the "Rich Jerk", but without the jerkyness. Definitely an attention grabber.

-rj-

 

[ZOX]

If anyone learned something they don't mind sharing using this "$3000/day method"...please post here!

 

[Spade]

Im curious of how many domains it takes them to make 3k per day and of course what they actually net when its all said and done.

 

[Ross]

Im curious of how many domains it takes them to make 3k per day and of course what they actually net when its all said and done.

Honestly i think they have tons and tons set up in the method but only a hand full actually make the real money. I have been doing the same type of things they explain and only have hit a good one every so often, even then its not $3k a day.

 

[ripley]

I am too. I was sitting here listening to their pitch imagining some massive portfolio of .ro domains.

ripley.

 

[RicoShay]

Interesting. But I hate the presentation - ie. the sales page... seeing pages like that 9 times out of 10 puts me off. But anyway, will take a look at the video.