See you around

[Elad n]

See you around guys, i wont be using this platform anymore since they shut my mouth and removed my avatar.

They say its not professional so the PROFESSIONAL thing to do is to ask them to close my account.

Good luck you all!

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Moderator response:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7754873/

Important questions:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7749064/

 

[biggie]

The relevant matter is whether it is considered professional to have a picture of a scene from a movie where the person is trying to kill someone. The answer is no, it is not professional. Yes, that's an opinion. Yes, you may disagree. But that's the decision we made after it was reported to us.

Hi

when you speak of what is relevant, in an environment,
then you have to consider all that is relevant to each participant.

when you speak of professionalism and being professional,
then are you being professional,
when or if you make decisions that effect members based on "expectations"

and those expectations which are not rules, but according to post, should be given same weight as rules...
however, if that is true then they should be called rules, and not expectations.

check this:
I expect to earn $0.85 a click, but the name didn't meet that
do I delete it, because it didn't meet expectations?
or do I leave it alone, hoping it will do better in future?

or

you might expect your kid to be a doctor, cuz you was surgeon
but they decided to be a cook and didn't meet your expectations

do you disown your child?
or do you go eat at his restaurant?

there is clarity in a rule, and there must be flexibility with any expectation.
I suggest you guys review your expectations list, along with the list of adjectives and the one sentence applications, you put next to each
there are too many scenarios, where any of them can be used as a weapon against another member, just because they aren't mature enough to handle criticism

imo..

NamePros isn't for everyone, and it can't be. It can, however, be for professionals.

I wonder if LinkedIn had used slogan worded like that, how many users would they have?

certainly doesn't sound welcoming or friendly

imo...


also, note to @Riz M.
don't get caught up in labels, just keep doing what you been doing,
let the domains continue to speak for themselves.
cuz, from my perspective, you have exceeded expectations, and i only expected you to listen.

imo...

 

[Peak.Domains]

also, note to @Riz M.
from my perspective, you have exceeded expectations, and i only expected you to listen.

Awe, this was so kind and wholesome

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

Frankenstein avatar is very proish
Fred flinstone... who doesnt want to tell their friends the bought a name from him
@Samer avatar scares me...
You can preach all u want joe, the alexa rank is improving but the quality of threads on np is going down. Thats curve we need to flatten. ya mods rule with iron fist but if all good people leave you have a balloon with no air.
this place doesnt even compare to professionalism as to 5-7-10 years ago

 

[kite26]

Frankenstein avatar is very proish
Fred flinstone... who doesnt want to tell their friends the bought a name from him
@Samer avatar scares me...
You can preach all u want joe, the alexa rank is improving but the quality of threads on np is going down. Thats curve we need to flatten. ya mods rule with iron fist but if all good people leave you have a balloon with no air.
this place doesnt even compare to professionalism as to 5-7-10 years ago

That's it. We are wasting energy for a minor problem (at start), while we could talk about a lot important subjects around domaining world. I have only to say this, I am now reading almost only old threads. Full of prestigious and domain legends. I agree with you, I see lack of quality.

 

[Joe N]

Frankenstein avatar is very proish
Fred flinstone... who doesnt want to tell their friends the bought a name from him
@Samer avatar scares me...
You can preach all u want joe, the alexa rank is improving but the quality of threads on np is going down. Thats curve we need to flatten. ya mods rule with iron fist but if all good people leave you have a balloon with no air.
this place doesnt even compare to professionalism as to 5-7-10 years ago

Am I preaching?

 

[Samer]

why let sensitive easily triggered define brand?

Guy who issued the complaint against avatar; got a -30 for thread ask NP ban Canna domain
https://www.namepros.com/threads/potentially-illegal-activity.1045664/
He fooled you. Get priorities order! it’s mistake

 

[kite26]

Even the mods at past was prestigious and very gentle, like @Amanda. Needless to say, I got temporarily banned once, but it was my fault

 

[lennco]

I have to remind you @Kate

I miss @Kate

 

[kite26]

I miss @Kate

All of us. I think she reads the forum even though she is logged out. I hope so...

 

[kite26]

New members with exceptions of course, only want to earn money fast. They don't really love domaining itself. And maybe this is not only Np phenomenon. Maybe people just search for fast money and soon feel dissatisfied. Anyway, the result is what we experience. I really hope for more quality and more crazy domain lovers (first) and then investors.

 

[branding]

New members with exceptions of course, only want to earn money fast. They don't really love domaining itself. And maybe this is not only Np phenomenon. Maybe people just search for fast money and soon feel dissatisfied. Anyway, the result is what we experience. I really hope for more quality and more crazy domain lovers (first) and then investors.

Over time this issue will become even bigger. That's why it is important for a forum like NP not only to have enough moderators, but also mods that are in touch with the (core) user base.

I totally get they want this board to become more professional, as that is something that will make NP stand out from the competition, if there is any at all.

But alienate your users from the people that run the board and your forum is doomed. There should always be some room for humour/unprofessionalism, that's life. We're all human.

 

[branding]

Just a thought for @Mod Team Bravo @Mod Team Echo @Mod Team Alfa

Maybe you should move forward by taking away the option of freely chosing an avatar/username and give new users some predefined options. Over time, or after they've reached a certain amount of rewards, like vip status or whatever, give people the option to pick their own avatar/name. Just thinking out loud here to keep this moving forward in a constructive way.

Obviously there should be more room for payed memberships.

 

[Rich]

New members with exceptions of course, only want to earn money fast. They don't really love domaining itself. And maybe this is not only Np phenomenon. Maybe people just search for fast money and soon feel dissatisfied. Anyway, the result is what we experience. I really hope for more quality and more crazy domain lovers (first) and then investors.

Funny you should say that, if I remember correctly I had to make a new login and had signed up here as far back as 02-03 browsing money making opportunities. It was only later when I started developing commercial websites that I needed to broaden my horizon and find better domains. I fell in love with the drop lists, it was time consuming at first but I enjoy hunting for that needle in the haystack and being able to see value where others don't as I've always been competitive. I like to help the newbies and hope they'll stick around so we're not wasting time. "When you learn, teach. When you get, give." I like to think the fraudsters and people wanting to make a quick buck will weed themselves out and all we'll have here is folks that love domain names. We're a community of passionate artists here - domainers, developers, designers, marketers, writers, etc. so it's hard when you tell us we can't express ourselves on a forum w/ avatars in a world of scammers phishing for info. I can understand the anonymous side and the "professional" side. Transparency is part of professionalism and @bmugford 's right, it's hard to deal with nameless/faceless mods when we had great mods like Michelle and Eric (second version) that we could chat with, be on a first name basis with. Kind of a double edged sword situation, hopefully we can all get passed this soon with some compromise and rule adjustments? That domainnamebroker guy don't even get me started on him.

 

[alcy]

You son of a bitch you mean you are not Alan Alda? I told friends I did business with a celebrity.

how come i never heard of alan alda is he's celebrity? i must be a son of a bitch.

 

[alcy]

Either himself or his wife or himself talking now.

why are there 3 possibilities and 2 people? is it called split personality or bipolarism?

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Updates since our previous post:

Yesterday, we sent an apology to @Elad n:

Hello,

We’d like to apologize for the way our messages may have come across. We did not realize that it may be perceived in the wrong way.

We did not mean to offend you or to imply anything negative about you. We only meant that the avatar has some negative aspects associated with it for some people, but many people do not share those feelings, e.g., because they have not seen the movie.

We understand that your intention was not to offend anyone, which is why we were bringing it to your attention.

Unfortunately, we should have brought it to your attention in a better way.

We hope you will accept our apology.

@Elad n responded, and we had an open and professional conversation. He explained his side and we clarified ours.

We also had a great conversation with @MapleDots via NamePros DM. He helped us understand some things that had not occurred to us.

For example, we didn't realize that the current procedure would cause a problem because we've been using it for 5 years with hardly any resistance, but the part that we overlooked was that most members don't know about it. There's also less confusion when the avatars are more problematic (e.g., racist).

After talking with him, it's clear to us that we've made some mistakes. Fortunately, the procedures are being updated, and there will be guidelines available soon.

Update: Guidelines added.

Thank you to @MapleDots for your advice and guidance. It's always appreciated.

 

[Compassion]

EVERYBODY IS A WINNER!!!​

 

[EmpireNames.com]

Hi

when you speak of what is relevant, in an environment,
then you have to consider all that is relevant to each participant.

when you speak of professionalism and being professional,
then are you being professional,
when or if you make decisions that effect members based on "expectations"

and those expectations which are not rules, but according to post, should be given same weight as rules...
however, if that is true then they should be called rules, and not expectations.

check this:
I expect to earn $0.85 a click, but the name didn't meet that
do I delete it, because it didn't meet expectations?
or do I leave it alone, hoping it will do better in future?

or

you might expect your kid to be a doctor, cuz you was surgeon
but they decided to be a cook and didn't meet your expectations

do you disown your child?
or do you go eat at his restaurant?

there is clarity in a rule, and there must be flexibility with any expectation.
I suggest you guys review your expectations list, along with the list of adjectives and the one sentence applications, you put next to each
there are too many scenarios, where any of them can be used as a weapon against another member, just because they aren't mature enough to handle criticism

imo..




I wonder if LinkedIn had used slogan worded like that, how many users would they have?

certainly doesn't sound welcoming or friendly

imo...


also, note to @Riz M.
don't get caught up in labels, just keep doing what you been doing,
let the domains continue to speak for themselves.
cuz, from my perspective, you have exceeded expectations, and i only expected you to listen.

imo...

Thanks for kind words and been always supporting
i will keep doing what i am doing and will do more struggle
Thanks

 

[equity78]

All of us. I think she reads the forum even though she is logged out. I hope so...

She has commented on blogs so I think Kate is reading.

 

[equity78]

Show attachment 152985

That was great, well done.

 

[equity78]

Not really. That is easy to judge.

Morality is not easy to judge, one person believes XXX pornography is out of line another person thinks a music video or woman in a swimsuit is over the line.

 

[equity78]

Updates since our previous post:

Yesterday, we sent an apology to @Elad n:

​

@Elad n responded, and we had an open and professional conversation. He explained his side and we clarified ours.

We also had a great conversation with @MapleDots via NamePros DM. He helped us understand some things that had not occurred to us.

For example, we didn't realize that the current procedure would cause a problem because we've been using it for 5 years with hardly any resistance, but the part that we overlooked was that most members don't know about it. There's also less confusion when the avatars are more problematic (e.g., racist).

After talking with him, it's clear to us that we've made some mistakes. Fortunately, the procedures are being updated, and there will be guidelines available soon.

Thank you to @MapleDots for your advice and guidance. It's always appreciated.

Elad told me that he had a conversation with 3 options for coming back. So that's good you getting somewhere.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

As promised, the procedures and guidelines were updated.

Here are the updated guidelines:

• https://www.namepros.com/threads/guidelines-for-usernames-and-profile-photos.1027786/

The guidelines also include some professional new avatars that anyone can use on NamePros. There are plans to add more avatars in the future, including some with different personalities.

Here’s what to expect with the updated guidelines:

1. New registrations will continue to be required to adhere to the full guidelines.
2. Existing members will continue to be required to adhere to the most important aspects of the guidelines, such as when avatars are very unprofessional or problematic (incite hate, racism, violence, etc.)
3. In the future, there will be an announcement about stricter enforcement of the avatar requirements for existing members. At that time, we will politely ask members to update their avatar if they believe that it doesn’t fully meet the requirements. Some time later, we will post a reminder that the deadline is approaching. Once the deadline passes, we will enforce the full requirements whenever it comes to our attention that an avatar is not compliant.

We believe that this is a fair way to apply the changes and give the community some time to adjust.

If you have any questions, please contact support.

Thank you for all your valued feedback.