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Has anyone used undeveloped.com to sell domains? They claim to be able to increase a domainers sales by 54%.
If you're implying setting up BIN+ Make Offer (Min Bid at BIN price) might be functionally the same as BIN only..Yes but, when a buyer sees the Make Offer option, he's lead to believe for a moment that there might be scope for negotiation, until he finds out that the minimum bid allowed is the same as BIN price and the Make Offer option was misleading and unnecessary.
The point is to uncomplicate things as much as possible for them and being straight forward at presenting options.
When I opt for BIN only, it's priced to be no-brainer for a serious buyer.
And I believe minimum bid's are construed to be the starting point of a negotiation and it's implied that the asking price might be more.So when one opts for Make Offer option setting Min. bid at BIN, there's a valid possibility the buyer might move on, who might have otherwise considered hitting BIN.
Hope this clarifies.
Hi Golan,
Of course, I'd be more than happy to.
The lead importer feature isn't a lead generator tool. So it's only to be used for leads or transactions that have already formalized.
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So the moment you receive an offer of for example $500 via email, you can import that lead directly to your Undeveloped account and continue negotiating while using our negotiation system.
The buyer will receive an email explaining that you're an Undeveloped seller and that you wish to use our marketplace and negotiation platform. Once they confirm their intent, you can negotiate with them via your Undeveloped account.
Hope this helps,
Reza
so the leads we enter show up only after and if buyer replies? why not show em in our leads right away..so we can keep track..now we cant even recall what we already entered
ty
@Undeveloped any chance u can let sellers lower their offer of buyer does not reply to last offr? sedo and gd do it..and it sure ia better than losing sales..ty
Thanks to @Undeveloped for creating the best domain selling experience ever.
I only recently found something that I think it's easy to implement and gives a better shopping experience. When you enter the Seller's Domain Shop, when filtering by extensions, all extensions appear. Would it not be possible to show only the extensions that said seller owns? I think this could make it easier for buyers to browse the shop
@Undeveloped
that being said.. can someone here on mobile phone be kind enough to confirm if pages are loading this long?
I did add a background picture.. but I can't imagine that as the problem.
here is a test page of mine:
www.9u.io
thanks and
cheers.
Less than 3sec load time here@Undeveloped
so today is first day I am trying your sale landers..
I like your support and the way things are structured for sales etc..
got couple offers.. but no sale yet.
I have a couple of issues though... I tried to email them to your support by email but I believe the person there is not same as here.. so hopefully I get a brand new view on it here from you.. and hopefully fix.
first of all, I have some longer names.. say 15 chars+.. such as virtualreality+keyword.com and some more... these names get cut on the line.. and rest of name is shown below it..
so stuff like:
virtualrealityorga
nization.com
or other similar things.
there aren't really 50 ways to fix it... you essentially need to code it so that if char count hitsa certain number where it splits name, then reduce font of name a bit.. so it fits in one line.
this is like few mins of coding too I think.. and this does not loook professional to potential buyer where name is randomly cut and split like this.
yoru email guy was great in his support.. but I think we had misunderstanding on this.. cause he kept saying we do all we can to make things look nice.. and yet, things do not look nice.. so I am not sure if he was saying there is no fix.. and if he was then he was wrong.. cause I just told you what the fix is.. and that's fairly simple to put.
one last thing for now:
I tried my landers on my desktop/laptop and all works good.. however when I quickly tested it on my phone (good phone on public connection), I had a loading time of about 10 seconds.. til page loaded fully and offer could be made.. before that there was just spinning circle in middle and page was loading. I am not picky and I don't need pages loading instantly.. so 2-3 seconds is fine.. but 10 seconds is not fine.. and this will just make buyers close windows thinking there is an issue.. not all.. but some... and we want zero buyers closing windows for this reason.
that being said.. can someone here on mobile phone be kind enough to confirm if pages are loading this long?
I did add a background picture.. but I can't imagine that as the problem.
here is a test page of mine:
www.9u.io
thanks and I like your quick support and company and hope to be able to make us both some sales in future!
p.s. I was also happy to learn from yuoru email support that your paypal payout is mass payment.. so zero extra fee from paypal upon payment reception.. else that'd make your total fee to sell with u around 20% ... so as bad as godaddy
cheers.
@Undeveloped
so today is first day I am trying your sale landers..
I like your support and the way things are structured for sales etc..
got couple offers.. but no sale yet.
I have a couple of issues though... I tried to email them to your support by email but I believe the person there is not same as here.. so hopefully I get a brand new view on it here from you.. and hopefully fix.
first of all, I have some longer names.. say 15 chars+.. such as virtualreality+keyword.com and some more... these names get cut on the line.. and rest of name is shown below it..
so stuff like:
virtualrealityorga
nization.com
or other similar things.
there aren't really 50 ways to fix it... you essentially need to code it so that if char count hitsa certain number where it splits name, then reduce font of name a bit.. so it fits in one line.
this is like few mins of coding too I think.. and this does not loook professional to potential buyer where name is randomly cut and split like this.
yoru email guy was great in his support.. but I think we had misunderstanding on this.. cause he kept saying we do all we can to make things look nice.. and yet, things do not look nice.. so I am not sure if he was saying there is no fix.. and if he was then he was wrong.. cause I just told you what the fix is.. and that's fairly simple to put.
one last thing for now:
I tried my landers on my desktop/laptop and all works good.. however when I quickly tested it on my phone (good phone on public connection), I had a loading time of about 10 seconds.. til page loaded fully and offer could be made.. before that there was just spinning circle in middle and page was loading. I am not picky and I don't need pages loading instantly.. so 2-3 seconds is fine.. but 10 seconds is not fine.. and this will just make buyers close windows thinking there is an issue.. not all.. but some... and we want zero buyers closing windows for this reason.
that being said.. can someone here on mobile phone be kind enough to confirm if pages are loading this long?
I did add a background picture.. but I can't imagine that as the problem.
here is a test page of mine:
www.9u.io
thanks and I like your quick support and company and hope to be able to make us both some sales in future!
p.s. I was also happy to learn from yuoru email support that your paypal payout is mass payment.. so zero extra fee from paypal upon payment reception.. else that'd make your total fee to sell with u around 20% ... so as bad as godaddy
cheers.
According to gtmetrix it loads in over 6 seconds (desktop not mobile though):
https://gtmetrix.com/reports/www.9u.io/QVUfRzDa
I have been emailing undeveloped about page loading times and they said pingdom shows it loading in around 1 second or so whereas my experience is with ssl landing pages it takes around 5-6 seconds for the page to load completely on average which is not good. When I test my page manually it does take a while for the pages to fully load for me as well it's not just gtmetrix.
As a comparison gtmetrix says efty takes around 2-3 seconds to load fully, afternic landers similar so i believe they are accurate overall.
I know undeveloped will likely say gtmetrix is wrong but I don't think they are here, the pages could do with loading mush faster overall in particular ssl landing pages.
I had not known bout gtmetrix (thank you @joro001 - I learn something new every day here!) before so I tried it with your site @alcy from old Mac desktop (most up to date Chrome) in western Canada with high speed home Internet via WiFi. It indicates 6.7 s for full load, but the page certainly seems to me to load faster. I presume it is the meaning of full that must explain how both can be right.
For comparison I tried a couple of other sites to see what it told me. For my own (NamesThat.win) site that runs on a SSD but in shared hosting service it gives 4.4 s, for NameBio main page it gives 2.0 s, for NamePros main page it gives 5.3 s, for one of my (redirected) individual landers on Undeveloped (robotics.gdn) it gave me 6.5 s (similar to your page) and for my Efty marketplace at Frugal.bid (not an individual lander page) it gives 3.3 s.
I think the @Undeveloped have indicated that some landers take longer for example if you have activated the graph of number of visits the domain name has had. I am not sure what other factors affect it. I would just say that to me, both when I use a Mac computer and an iPad, it certainly seems to me that Undeveloped pages load fast enough, and much faster than these numbers from GTMetrix.
Not sure if any of this is helpful, and will leave it to you more technically adept people to interpret meaning.
thanks
so maybe it isn't the goood ol mcdonald after all
I do know undeveloped has been working on reducing load times in past.. cause the support guy told me so by email.. so its easy to conclude that they had issues.. question is.. are they solved now or not.. I guess the reports are mixed.
obviously, the last thing you want on a sale lander.. is long load time. otherwise buyer just closes window thinking there is error and moves on... annd there goes your sale.. or potential of it.
Thanks for this. From my understanding gtmetrix measures it by when the page has fully loaded all scripts on the page which would include the reviews at the top right of the undeveloped page, the redirect to ssl, traffic graphs etc. (could be wrong just think this is the case).
So it would make sense that the more info you have on your undeveloped page the longer it will take to fully load them. however, 6 seconds or even 4 or 5 is simply too slow for my liking (love the landing pages otherwise by the way). This must be improved IMO.
yes... 6-10 seconds is too long.
well.. I guess I'll begin by removing my background pic.. see if that helps. too bad.. it was nice one hahah
Regarding site speed, GTMetrix shows how long it takes for all assets to load. We have asynchronous loading enabled (for the heavier front end tech we use like ReactJS). This results in showing the buyer instantly the site (html loads first) while we load each important element asynchronously.
If you load the page, you'll see this clearly with the Trustpilot widget. It always loads after the entire site has been loaded.
GTMetrix shows the total time to load all elements and assets so it's not useful for real benchmarking.
Like I mentioned earlier, if you have a normal set-up you should observe an average load time of between 800 milliseconds and max 2 seconds during peak hours (for me personally all pages load instantly when I open a new lander. Only domains that are just newly parked with us and don't have SSL yet will take a bit longer to load for their first visit as we generate the SSL certificates at the first visit).
We have users from all over the world with different machines, browser plugins, internet connections, some park via Nameservers, others via a redirect and what not. So it doesn't surprise me that not everyone is experiencing the same site speed or load time.