The USA Political Thread

lennco · Jul 20, 2012

Here you can spout your USA political views.

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4. US Political views, No Religious views
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SirDrago · Jul 23, 2016

JB Lions said:
Spelling on some forum I don't think really matters much, it's more the content of the post. Focusing on spelling is just one way to get away from the actual topic.

Kaine is Clinton's VP as expected.

I would think Trump supporters are happy with the DNC leak by wikileaks - https://twitter.com/hashtag/DNCleak?src=tren

even tho I'm sure politicians understand this, probably some of the younger Sanders supporters don't.

Not a good look but this goes on everywhere. Some are suggesting this is just Russia/Putin trying to help get their puppet Trump in the White House, knowing they can run him every which way they want.

Side note, Hillary has been owning Donald/RNC, she stepped up her social media game, maybe Sanders is running it - https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton

No one here is avoiding the topic, it's just that everything you posted has been proven B.s already in this thread.

Now as to wikileaks,
The information that will be released by Nov will probably/most likely disqualify crooked Hillary from running any government job.

JB Lions · Jul 23, 2016

SirDrago said:
No one here is avoiding the topic, it's just that everything you posted has been proven B.s already in this thread.

You haven't touched anything I've posted. I touched something you posted, that bs about Syria, gave you a link where you can read some truth about that, you didn't respond. You rather go on and on about somebody's spelling.

The wikileaks stuff is the same stuff you would find in the RNC, they tried to find all kinds of ways to get Trump. It's politics, normal stuff.

AGermanGuy said:
I havent read the last 247 pages, and I am only here to give a short statement as how I see it as an outsider.

I am german (obviously) and live in Berlin and think that both candidates are utter sh*t. But i think that Hillary is "less sh*t" than Trump. Most of the stuff I have seen from Trump was just fearmongering and lies. Hillary isnt good either, but still better than Trump. Its the choice between AIDS and Cancer. Also, the fact that Trump is so disgustingly islamophobic is already a yes for Hillary.

If I would be american and he would still be in the race, I would vote for Bernie Sanders.

Now you can hate on my opinion

It'll be a lesser of 2 evils choice for a lot of people. If the Republicans picked Kasich, they probably would have had a Republican in the White House and then a Conservative judge on the Supreme Court, instead they picked the guy who had the worst chance of beating Hillary, a complete mess in Trump. I don't think Trump even respects the people voting for him which was demonstrated when he said he could probably go out and shoot somebody and he would still get their votes. I think he see his supporters as nothing but skin and bones with empty vessels for heads, that he can fill with whatever he decides. So far that's been proven true.

Trump:
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally here."

Does that sound like a compliment to anybody? Or him pointing out just how sheep like his followers are?

SirDrago · Jul 23, 2016

AGermanGuy said:
Now you can hate on my opinion

No one here is going to hate you friend, we're just sharing opinions freely and you are entitled to yours.

SirDrago · Jul 23, 2016

JB Lions said:
You haven't touched anything I've posted. I touched something you posted, that bs about Syria, gave you a link where you can read some truth about that, you didn't respond. You rather go on and on about somebody's spelling.

Out of respect and fairness I decided to check the links you provided..
JB, did you even do a background check on the two authors? Come on Bro please give me my 7 minutes back I lost researching garbage.
One is a founder of the site and the other is a confused wannabe lawyer both Dems, what do you expect them to say???

Crazy thing happened today...
While Obama was giving a speech in mexico trying to convince there no world threat a psycho gunman in munich germany killed 8+ people. CNN (Dem News channel) was playing a viagra commercial while Fox news (R) was streaming live.
How you like them apples?

JB Lions · Jul 23, 2016

SirDrago said:
Out of respect and fairness I decided to check the links you provided..
JB, did you even do a background check on the two authors? Come on Bro please give me my 7 minutes back I lost researching garbage.
One is a founder of the site and the other is a confused wannabe lawyer both Dems, what do you expect them to say???

Crazy thing happened today...
While Obama was giving a speech in mexico trying to convince there no world threat a psycho gunman in munich germany killed 8+ people. CNN (Dem News channel) was playing a viagra commercial while Fox news (R) was streaming live.
How you like them apples?

So you don't consider Politifact a legit source?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-again-fails-screen-out-falsehood-oft-/

Then take it apart, give me something specific you feel they got wrong in the story. Fact check a fact check site.

JB Lions · Jul 23, 2016

Here is another one, the main one, FactCheck.org. Founder being a life long Republican:

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/factchecking-trumps-big-speech/

"While criticizing Hillary Clinton’s support for admitting more Syrian refugees to the U.S., Trump said that “there’s no way to screen” those refugees to determine “who they are or where they come from.” That’s false. All refugees admitted to the U.S. go through an extensive vetting process that involves multiple federal agencies and can take up to 24 months to complete."

The Obama administration pledged to admit up to 10,000 Syrian refugees in fiscal year 2016 (ending Sept. 30), and Clinton has said that the U.S. should increase that number to 65,000. However, Clinton said the U.S. should increase the number of Syrian refugees admitted “only if we have as careful a screening and vetting process as we can imagine.”

The current process for admitting a refugee to the U.S. is very lengthy. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, or sometimes a U.S. embassy, refers a qualified refugee for resettlement in the U.S. After that, there’s an initial multistep security clearance, including the collection of the refugee’s personal data and background information. That is followed by an in-person interview abroad with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, which has to approve the application. The security clearance involves checking the refugee’s name and fingerprints against several government databases. That’s followed by a medical screening and a pairing with one of the voluntary agencies in the U.S. that sponsors refugees. And, finally, there’s another security clearance to check for any new information. That completes the process.

According to the State Department, the total process from the UNHCR referral to finally being admitted into the U.S. takes 18 to 24 months on average.

And while it may be the case that some Syrian refugees lack the documentation necessary to identify them, that is not the case for everyone. At an October 2015 Senate subcommittee hearing on refugee resettlement, Barbara Strack, chief of the refugee affairs division of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, said that Syrian refugees tend to have “many, many documents.”

http://www.factcheck.org/

For those who are into facts, truth. They go thru everybody.

SirDrago · Jul 23, 2016

JB Lions said:
Here is another one, the main one, FactCheck.org. Founder being a life long Republican:

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/factchecking-trumps-big-speech/

"While criticizing Hillary Clinton’s support for admitting more Syrian refugees to the U.S., Trump said that “there’s no way to screen” those refugees to determine “who they are or where they come from.” That’s false. All refugees admitted to the U.S. go through an extensive vetting process that involves multiple federal agencies and can take up to 24 months to complete."

The Obama administration pledged to admit up to 10,000 Syrian refugees in fiscal year 2016 (ending Sept. 30), and Clinton has said that the U.S. should increase that number to 65,000. However, Clinton said the U.S. should increase the number of Syrian refugees admitted “only if we have as careful a screening and vetting process as we can imagine.”

The current process for admitting a refugee to the U.S. is very lengthy. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, or sometimes a U.S. embassy, refers a qualified refugee for resettlement in the U.S. After that, there’s an initial multistep security clearance, including the collection of the refugee’s personal data and background information. That is followed by an in-person interview abroad with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, which has to approve the application. The security clearance involves checking the refugee’s name and fingerprints against several government databases. That’s followed by a medical screening and a pairing with one of the voluntary agencies in the U.S. that sponsors refugees. And, finally, there’s another security clearance to check for any new information. That completes the process.

According to the State Department, the total process from the UNHCR referral to finally being admitted into the U.S. takes 18 to 24 months on average.

And while it may be the case that some Syrian refugees lack the documentation necessary to identify them, that is not the case for everyone. At an October 2015 Senate subcommittee hearing on refugee resettlement, Barbara Strack, chief of the refugee affairs division of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, said that Syrian refugees tend to have “many, many documents.”

http://www.factcheck.org/

For those who are into facts, truth. They go thru everybody.

JB, I would love to continue this a little later as its Friday night and my wife and I would prefer to Netflix and chill

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/...icials-colluded-to-secure-clinton-nomination/

Please believe me when I say this is merely a taste of what is to come.
Good night and God bless bro.

JB Lions · Jul 23, 2016

I'm reading some of it, it's amazing reading Twitter. Just how dumb people are. One was about the DNC planting Craiglist ads to get at Trump. Here is one tweet passing it on:

"The #DNC made fake Craigslist ads for Trump jobs saying women needed to be hot to qualify"

https://twitter.com/afatgreekcat/status/756708544825659392

as if they were using Craiglist (clue #1 that this is bs) to hire with stuff like:

Multiple Positions (NYC area)

Seeking staff members for multiple positions in a large, New York-based corporation known for its real estate investments, fake universities, steaks, and wine. The boss has very strict standards for female employees, ranging from the women who take lunch orders (must be hot) to the women who oversee multi-million dollar construction projects (must maintain hotness demonstrated at time of hiring).

Title: Honey Bunch (that’s what the boss will call you)

Job requirements:
* No gaining weight on the job (we’ll take some “before” pictures when you start to use later as evidence)
* Must be open to public humiliation and open-press workouts if you do gain weight on the job
* A willingness to evaluate other women’s hotness for the boss’ satisfaction is a plus
* Should be proficient in lying about age if the boss thinks you’re too old Working mothers not preferred (the boss finds pumping breast milk disgusting, and worries they’re too focused on their children).

About us: We’re proud to maintain a “fun” and “friendly work environment, where the boss is always available to meet with his employees. Like it or not, he may greet you with a kiss on the lips or grope you under the meeting table.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803

Really? Read that a couple of times. Who in the world would buy that's a legit ad from the Trump Organization. It would make no sense for the DNC to plant something like that. It's over the top. It's like an Onion type article. Does that seem legit to anybody? Admitting to being a fake university and all that sexist stuff? I think if there was a such thing as aliens and they read Twitter, they would just torch the Earth and start over. Just a lot of empty people posting.

GILSAN · Jul 23, 2016

AGermanGuy said:
I havent read the last 247 pages, and I am only here to give a short statement as how I see it as an outsider.

I am german (obviously) and live in Berlin and think that both candidates are utter sh*t. But i think that Hillary is "less sh*t" than Trump. Most of the stuff I have seen from Trump was just fearmongering and lies. Hillary isnt good either, but still better than Trump. Its the choice between AIDS and Cancer. Also, the fact that Trump is so disgustingly islamophobic is already a yes for Hillary.

If I would be american and he would still be in the race, I would vote for Bernie Sanders.

Now you can hate on my opinion

Nobody is gonna hate your opinion in this thread. Lots of different opinions here.

Personally I'm hoping Trump will win. In fact I wish we could clone a few Trumps and send them to Europe to replace such idiots like Germany's Merckel and France's Hollande, just to name a few. These idiots have allowed Europe to get invaded by illegals that are coming here to milk our system, without contributing a cent.

Generosity can only go so far... after that, you either comply with the laws of the country or get the hell out. Unfortunately most of the EU governments are destroying our society by allowing and encouraging an invasion of illegals where a very high % is of lazy people from backward societies or Islamists who are quite happy to create havoc and send Europe back into the 10th century.

That's why I say. Trump... build that wall and start controlling illegal immigration, especially from those that want to do you harm

Wish we had at least one Trump here in Europe

AGermanGuy · Jul 23, 2016

GILSAN said:
Nobody is gonna hate your opinion in this thread. Lots of different opinions here.

Personally I'm hoping Trump will win. In fact I wish we could clone a few Trumps and send them to Europe to replace such idiots like Germany's Merckel and France's Hollande, just to name a few. These idiots have allowed Europe to get invaded by illegals that are coming here to milk our system, without contributing a cent.

Generosity can only go so far... after that, you either comply with the laws of the country or get the hell out. Unfortunately most of the EU governments are destroying our society by allowing and encouraging an invasion of illegals where a very high % is of lazy people from backward societies or Islamists who are quite happy to create havoc and send Europe back into the 10th century.

That's why I say. Trump... build that wall and start controlling illegal immigration, especially from those that want to do you harm

Wish we had at least one Trump here in Europe

1. If a Trump like person would be Germanys Chancellor, I would be gone faster than he can finish his wall. I would rather want to live in Putins Russia then.
2. You know, forget that part. We already have a Trump like party in Germany, the AlternativeForGermany (AFD) or how I call it, the Alternative for Idiots.
3. Most of the immigrants coming to Europe are fleeing from the wars in the middle east, not from the poverty.
4. The immigrants that do come here for economic benefits, are already getting expelled. Look at the huge numbers of expelled immigrants in Germany or that are about to be expelled.
5. I dont know about other european countries but immigrants in Germany are well integrated. I have seen second generation immigrants having better german skills than german people.
6. Your post is full of Islamophobia.

briguy · Jul 23, 2016

Supposedly a real ad...

GILSAN · Jul 24, 2016

Germany, the UK, France, Sweden and so many other EU countries are unable to send back the majority of illegals because:
1. A very high % of these illegals throw away their Passports or ID's so as not to be identified correctly.
2. Many of the countries where these illegals come from refuse to take them back because they claim they have no documents an so there is no proof they came from that particular country.

Why do these illegals throw away their ID's before entering Europe? Many of them have criminal records, or have health problems or lie about their age, claiming they are children so as to get into the front of the queue to get asylum.

Many of them are no more than scammers coming to Europe to take advantage of our generous benefit system. They have no intention of working for a living or to contribute to the country that has so generously accepted them.

Many are radical Islamists who's intention is already very clear and they've been showing us their barbaric terror with more and more intensity.

A vast majority of them are young men, who don't seem to have any respect for European women or the way they dress, thus believing that they are nothing more than white whores that deserve to be raped and in some cases even killed.

There are thousands of rape reports in Germany, the UK and Sweden to name a few. 95% of those rapes were done by the followers of the "Religion of Peace"

Oh here's an interesting statistic: Sweden is now the highest rape capital in Europe and the 2nd in the world. That's quite a shocking figure when you think about Sweden being such a nice, friendly and non-violent society just 20-30 years ago.

And you know why Sweden has this appalling Rape record? Yes you guessed it. They filled their country up with Somalians, Eritreans, Afghans and Pakistanis who think that Swedish women are easy meat (halal?) and should be raped because they dress like whores.

I could easily supply dozens of links to prove this, but quite frankly I can't be bothered to waste any more time with some people.

Calling me an Islamophobe or Xenophobe or racist or whatever name you want to call me, makes not one iota of difference to me.

Just like Trump, I don't give a flying $hit about Political Correctness and believe the truth has to come out, no matter how much it may hurt some people.

Oh BTW... if by chance you come across an axe attacker, don't gun him down... instead follow the instructions in this video on how to handle the situation without killing the attacker

Nothing Islamophobic about this video.

AGermanGuy · Jul 24, 2016

GILSAN said:
Germany, the UK, France, Sweden and so many other EU countries are unable to send back the majority of illegals because:
1. A very high % of these illegals throw away their Passports or ID's so as not to be identified correctly.
2. Many of the countries where these illegals come from refuse to take them back because they claim they have no documents an so there is no proof they came from that particular country.

Why do these illegals throw away their ID's before entering Europe? Many of them have criminal records, or have health problems or lie about their age, claiming they are children so as to get into the front of the queue to get asylum.

Many of them are no more than scammers coming to Europe to take advantage of our generous benefit system. They have no intention of working for a living or to contribute to the country that has so generously accepted them.

Many are radical Islamists who's intention is already very clear and they've been showing us their barbaric terror with more and more intensity.

A vast majority of them are young men, who don't seem to have any respect for European women or the way they dress, thus believing that they are nothing more than white whores that deserve to be raped and in some cases even killed.

There are thousands of rape reports in Germany, the UK and Sweden to name a few. 95% of those rapes were done by the followers of the "Religion of Peace"

Oh here's an interesting statistic: Sweden is now the highest rape capital in Europe and the 2nd in the world. That's quite a shocking figure when you think about Sweden being such a nice, friendly and non-violent society just 20-30 years ago.

And you know why Sweden has this appalling Rape record? Yes you guessed it. They filled their country up with Somalians, Eritreans, Afghans and Pakistanis who think that Swedish women are easy meat (halal?) and should be raped because they dress like whores.

I could easily supply dozens of links to prove this, but quite frankly I can't be bothered to waste any more time with some people.

Calling me an Islamophobe or Xenophobe or racist or whatever name you want to call me, makes not one iota of difference to me.

Just like Trump, I don't give a flying $hit about Political Correctness and believe the truth has to come out, no matter how much it may hurt some people.

Oh BTW... if by chance you come across an axe attacker, don't gun him down... instead follow the instructions in this video on how to handle the situation without killing the attacker

Nothing Islamophobic about this video.

Oh pls, you dont provide any links because everything you wrote is total BS.

All this talk about "rapefugess" is utter nonesense. The fact that you are not willing to prove your accusations already shows that it is all BS and not true.

I dont even know why I continue arguing with you. Jesus, sometimes I wish we still had absolute monarchies so that people like you couldnt vote.

And yes, the instructions in the video are exactly what you should do. We dont need guns here in Europe and I hope it stays this way. I dont know of any causes where a terrorist attack has failed because the attacker got shot by a guy with concealed carry. Even though thats exactly what pro gun people like you say to defend yourself "we need guns to protect ourselves" "with guns this attack could have been prevented" etc.

GILSAN · Jul 24, 2016

AGermanGuy said:
Oh pls, you dont provide any links because everything you wrote is total BS.

All this talk about "rapefugess" is utter nonesense. The fact that you are not willing to prove your accusations already shows that it is all BS and not true.

I dont even know why I continue arguing with you. Jesus, sometimes I wish we still had absolute monarchies so that people like you couldnt vote.

And yes, the instructions in the video are exactly what you should do. We dont need guns here in Europe and I hope it stays this way. I dont know of any causes where a terrorist attack has failed because the attacker got shot by a guy with concealed carry. Even though thats exactly what pro gun people like you say to defend yourself "we need guns to protect ourselves" "with guns this attack could have been prevented" etc.

I don't give a crap what you think. You can find all the links and more if you go back and read all the pages you admitted you never bothered to read. Don't be lazy... just like so many of the illegals in the EU. I'm not gonna do the homework for you

AGermanGuy · Jul 24, 2016

GILSAN said:
I don't give a crap what you think. You can find all the links and more if you go back and read all the pages you admitted you never bothered to read. Don't be lazy... just like so many of the illegals in the EU. I'm not gonna do the homework for you

Its 248 pages. Its not lazy to not read them. It would takes days to read through all of them.

GILSAN · Jul 24, 2016

tiawalling · Jul 24, 2016

“If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.” 2 Chron. 7:14

“Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people He choose for His inheritance.” Ps. 33:12

“He will be the stability of your times, a wealth of salvation, wisdom, and knowledge…” Is 33:6

It is “God who changes the times and seasons; He sets up kings and deposes them. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning.” Dan. 2:21

“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” Eph. 6:12

GILSAN · Jul 24, 2016

GILSAN · Jul 24, 2016

Trump was right again, as usual...the emails prove it. The DNC's been conning their constituents. They never had a choice in choosing their next candidate for president..Hillary was chosen for them a long, long time ago.

GILSAN · Jul 24, 2016

The most venomous snake in the Democratic Party

AGermanGuy · Jul 24, 2016

You are resorting to memes because you know that your arguments have no hold whatsoever.

GILSAN · Jul 24, 2016

AGermanGuy said:
You are resorting to memes because you know that your arguments have no hold whatsoever.

Go read the 248 pages that you're too lazy to read, before making judjements

viento · Jul 24, 2016

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I have successfully forecast several things ,in the early this year ,i see the China flood ,now it happened.

Another thing is .ooo domain will be very top domain in 5 years.

GILSAN · Jul 24, 2016

What a joke! Another example of how the lying Liberal Media operates!
BUSTED! CNN Anderson Cooper CAUGHT PROTECTING Crooked Hillary... once again

GILSAN · Jul 24, 2016

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