Dan.com stole my $

[ksusha64]

Dan.com accepted the $ for the domain they knew they did not have. I have proof they didn't have that domain and accepted money anyway. They refunded $4,000 short for the name. They are breaking the law by not keeping your $ in secure escrow account. Instead they returned $4,000 less from different BANK, different COUNTRY, and shorted me $4,000.
I demand they return the $ I paid for the name. They held the $ for 1 week!!! and returned $4,000 short.
Dan.com is complete scam. They refusing to deal with details. I will post screen shots and proof.

 

[DAN.COM]

So, five hours ago you post this:



Then, you go on a multi-post rant like an energizer bunny with zero "screen shots and proof" in sight.

@DAN.COM shows up, answers your post, and also posts what purport to be screen shots of the transaction from their end, and you still haven't made good on your original post in this thread for these screen shots of yours.

You've also posted that @DAN.COM held your money for a "week", when it looks to be closer to three days. However, sometimes, international wire transfers can be held up, for a variety of reasons.

Now @ksusha64 hasn't mentioned what country they are in, but it could take some time for the December 9 payment from @DAN.COM to reach the destination account - and possibly not by the Monday morning time at which @ksusha64 made the OP in this thread.

My best guess is that @ksusha64 is upset by the fact that the domain listing was not legit in the first place, and that annoyance has blinded him or her to perhaps making a mistake in looking at his/her bank records, and mis-attributed two payments to the expected refund.

Here's a simple question for the reader... if part of the refund payment from @DAN.COM was sent to @ksusha64 from "a different company" as alleged by @ksusha64 , then on what basis is @ksusha64 claiming that it has anything to do with any amount sent by @DAN.COM ? I mean, instead of saying "there were two wires which are $4,000 short, and one is from a different company" why isn't he or she saying "there was one wire which was $XX,XXX short"?

That detail alone in @ksusha64 's story doesn't make any sense to me.

If "Bob" owed me 10,000, and I received a 5,000 payment from Bob, and a 4,000 payment from Alice, I would be saying that Bob shorted me by 5,000. I wouldn't be saying that Bob shorted me by 1,000 and sent part of his payment pretending to be Alice. Why would I even think the payment from Alice had anything to do with Bob?

The bank account where the funds were deposited is the same as the refunding bank account. There was no other company involved. The only external company we'll soon start working with for bank payouts is Payoneer. But that's not live for Dan sellers yet as we're in the final phase of testing before we can release that integration.

 

[Keith]

The OP is a rotten “Tomato” in this case…

 

[wizard]

oh dear the OP didnt say much after dan.com came along anyway we love you @DAN.COM

 

[jberryhill]

The bank account where the funds were deposited is the same as the refunding bank account.

Yes, you made that clear. My comment was directed to the inherent problem in the original post in this thread, where the poster stated that they received two payments from different companies and provides no explanation as to why the poster thinks that any payment from some other company has anything to do with the transaction in question.

 

[branding]

OP probably lost money due to EU to USD conversion at his bank when receiving the refund. It sucks, but happens all the time.

Workaround is to have a bank account that gives you an USD and EU balance. No need to convert until you decide to.

Exchange rates can be a bitch but if you manage them well, even receiving a refund could make you money.

 

[lovely4ever]

What are ICANN rules for buying domains for registrars? Is the money supposed to be in escr

@jberryhill . Do you know if ICANN has any rules to the way payments for domains should be handled?
Should they be kept in separate escrow account? Can it be transferred to another company and used between different companies and banks?

just check carefully with your bank , maybe your bank deducted the 4000 when the full amount returned back
to your account , NOT dan .


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[ksusha64]

If I can prove this is a lie, will you refund money you stolen from me?

The bank account where the funds were deposited is the same as the refunding bank account. There was no other company involved. The only external company we'll soon start working with for bank payouts is Payoneer. But that's not live for Dan sellers yet as we're in the final phase of testing before we can release that integration.

 

[ksusha64]

The OP is a rotten “Tomato” in this case…

The bank account where the funds were deposited is the same as the refunding bank account. There was no other company involved. The only external company we'll soon start working with for bank payouts is Payoneer. But that's not live for Dan sellers yet as we're in the final phase of testing before we can release that integration.

I got $4,000 less than I sent for the domain. Will Dan.com refund me the money if I show clear proof?

 

[ksusha64]

Money has been stolen from me. Will it be refunded? This is absurd that I am a victim of stolen funds and people attack me. I have damages of $4,000 usd due to dan.com negligence and intentional withholding of funds.

 

[ksusha64]

So, five hours ago you post this:



Then, you go on a multi-post rant like an energizer bunny with zero "screen shots and proof" in sight.

@DAN.COM shows up, answers your post, and also posts what purport to be screen shots of the transaction from their end, and you still haven't made good on your original post in this thread for these screen shots of yours.

You've also posted that @DAN.COM held your money for a "week", when it looks to be closer to three days. However, sometimes, international wire transfers can be held up, for a variety of reasons.

Now @ksusha64 hasn't mentioned what country they are in, but it could take some time for the December 9 payment from @DAN.COM to reach the destination account - and possibly not by the Monday morning time at which @ksusha64 made the OP in this thread.

My best guess is that @ksusha64 is upset by the fact that the domain listing was not legit in the first place, and that annoyance has blinded him or her to perhaps making a mistake in looking at his/her bank records, and mis-attributed two payments to the expected refund.

Here's a simple question for the reader... if part of the refund payment from @DAN.COM was sent to @ksusha64 from "a different company" as alleged by @ksusha64 , then on what basis is @ksusha64 claiming that it has anything to do with any amount sent by @DAN.COM ? I mean, instead of saying "there were two wires which are $4,000 short, and one is from a different company" why isn't he or she saying "there was one wire which was $XX,XXX short"?

That detail alone in @ksusha64 's story doesn't make any sense to me.

If "Bob" owed me 10,000, and I received a 5,000 payment from Bob, and a 4,000 payment from Alice, I would be saying that Bob shorted me by 5,000. I wouldn't be saying that Bob shorted me by 1,000 and sent part of his payment pretending to be Alice. Why would I even think the payment from Alice had anything to do with Bob?

The logic is much simpler, I got paid $4,000 less for the product I did not receive. Thats my damages. They did it intentionally based on evidence.

 

[Keith]

Money has been stolen from me. Will it be refunded? This is absurd that I am a victim of stolen funds and people attack me. I have damages of $4,000 usd due to dan.com negligence and intentional withholding of funds.

You have to provide a legitimate screenshot of funds sent vs the refund. So simple.

 

[ksusha64]

They intentionally waited for the day of worst rate exchange to screw me for $4,000 usd instead of rejecting my payment or returning it same day. They selling names that are not available. I sent an OFFER that was ACCEPTED

 

[ksusha64]

You have to provide a legitimate screenshot of funds sent vs the refund. So simple.

I will provide that. Will I be refunded for the amount loss?

 

[branding]

They intentionally waited for the day of worst rate exchange to screw me for $4,000 usd instead of rejecting my payment or returning it same day. They selling names that are not available. I sent an OFFER that was ACCEPTED

So did you buy in EU and got a refund in EU? That's basically all we need to know.

 

[ksusha64]

I want some answers from Dan.com. Will they refund me the money I lost on this transaction? Its clearly THEIR FAULT

 

[ksusha64]

I will provide them proof of loss funds. I am happy to provide all the evidence they ask for.

 

[ksusha64]

Is Dan.com disputing I lost funds on this transaction where they sold me air?

 

[ksusha64]

They have to return the funds with same exchange rate I paid for the domain. I should not be losing $ due to exchange rates difference and them sending money back on worst day possible for exchange rate to cheat me.

 

[WGS_Thunder]

Dan.com accepted the $ for the domain they knew they did not have. I have proof they didn't have that domain and accepted money anyway. They refunded $4,000 short for the name. They are breaking the law by not keeping your $ in secure escrow account. Instead they returned $4,000 less from different BANK, different COUNTRY, and shorted me $4,000.
I demand they return the $ I paid for the name. They held the $ for 1 week!!! and returned $4,000 short.
Dan.com is complete scam. They refusing to deal with details. I will post screen shots and proof.

screenshots, where are the screenshots you said you would post ??

 

[jberryhill]

You are supposed to return SAME AMOUNT, FROM SAME ACCOUNT you GOT PAID.

Well, since @ksusha64 is more interested in asking questions and making accusations than answering them, I noticed there is an ambiguity in the claim, and I think I have a better idea of what is happening. Part of the problem here is that English is obviously not his or her first language.

IF @ksusha64 ever decides to post the proof which they promised in the OP, then it would also be good to get a clear explanation of (a) where @ksusha64 is located, (b) what is @ksusha64 's bank and (c) in what currency was the payment intended to be sent and received.

There are some banks which cannot receive foreign currency payments. For example, if you have an account with TD Bank in the United States, you can send and receive US dollar payments. If, however, you are a US TD Bank customer, and you either receive or send a payment in non-US currency, then the payment will be routed through the Canadian Toronto Dominion Bank corporation as an intermediary bank.

But since @ksusha64 just wants to have a hissy fit instead of posting useful information, we will probably not know.

The logic is much simpler, I got paid $4,000 less for the product I did not receive. Thats my damages. They did it intentionally based on evidence.

You haven't posted evidence of anything. And your stance of "I won't post anything unless someone promises me something" is simply childish.

@DAN.COM is not making money off of whatever the banks are charging for currency conversion. In all likelihood it is your own bank and/or their intermediary currency processor who determined the exchange rate to be applied to the transaction.

I sent an OFFER that was ACCEPTED

Yes, people list domains for sale, on all platforms, that they really don't have the authority to sell. Dan.com told you this BEFORE you sent the payment.

They have to return the funds with same exchange rate I paid for the domain. I should not be losing $ due to exchange rates difference and them sending money back on worst day possible for exchange rate to cheat me.

That's complete nonsense. Dan.com is not responsible for whatever currency you hold in your bank account.

 

[Xiberia]

Here's a simple question for the reader... if part of the refund payment from @DAN.COM was sent to @ksusha64 from "a different company" as alleged by @ksusha64 , then on what basis is @ksusha64 claiming that it has anything to do with any amount sent by @DAN.COM ? I mean, instead of saying "there were two wires which are $4,000 short, and one is from a different company" why isn't he or she saying "there was one wire which was $XX,XXX short"?

Maybe the refund is initiated by Dan but then goes through intermediary bank(s) in other countries which are the ones who do conversion to USD? (Question mark because I don't know, just guessing.)

So the OP sees Dan's Bank, Ltd as the bank they sent the money to, but Intermediary Bank, Inc is the one who ultimately deposits the refund to her account (which is light by $4k because of their creative FOREX rates). Dan may not even know anything about it, and OP may be just misunderstanding it.

It would be helpful if the OP instead of just repeating the same accusations actually posted the evidence they claim to have, and screenshots of conversations, since it has been claimed they were told not to tranfer the money but did so anyway.

 

[ksusha64]

Dan.com should of returned the money on same rate I paid.
They purposely picked the day with worst rate to screw me for most $ possible.
Even today's rate I would of gotten 56K back. They have to take a loss on this since they didn't provide the domain. Why should I be taking loss on a transaction they failed to complete????

 

[ksusha64]

People asking me to post screen shots, but not saying I should get paid if I provide them.

 

[ksusha64]

Will dan.com refund me if I show they caused me $4,000 damage from transaction they DID NOT COMPLETE.

 

[branding]

Dan.com should of returned the money on same rate I paid.
They purposely picked the day with worst rate to screw me for most $ possible.
Even today's rate I would of gotten 56K back. They have to take a loss on this since they didn't provide the domain. Why should I be taking loss on a transaction they failed to complete????

So they didn't refund you the full amount in EU? Again, use a bank with a EU balance if you want to protect yourself from conversion rates.