news Mike Mann drops 50,000 domains

[charrisg]

Mike Mann and his company DomainMarket.com has dropped almost 50,000 domains in the past few months.


https://onlinedomain.com/2020/06/18/domain-name-news/mike-mann-drops-50000-domains/

 

[Recons.Com]

My assumption was he is deleting some recent and/or very long regs, like 3 worders, acronyms+2 words etc.

It seems it is not just that.

He puts lots of names he has no intention to renew into under 500 basket and whatever doesn't sell, drops...

See one example here:

Apgavo/.com, regged since 2012 (not sure since when in his possession, but definitely not a recent hand reg)

 

[Samer]

With Google, Twitter and Microsoft keyword alone, there are 47+37+11 = 95 domains as per DomainMarket.

A big time cybersquatter.

Yes, i forgot about that. Well played.

You forgot "Uber" The worst damage Mike can do is announce (TM) sales.

Mike tweeted Sold UberDirect (.)com for $9888 on 1/2/2020, got for $20, 2019.
Sadly, I think TM infringement sales, more harm than good to the industry.
Only Mike can pull this off. I kindly ask him to stop sharing "TM" sales lol.

Samer

 

[AbdulBasit.com]

Yes, i forgot about that. Well played.

You forgot "Uber" The worst damage Mike can do is announce (TM) sales.

Mike tweeted Sold UberDirect (.)com for $9888 on 1/2/2020, he got for $20 in 2019.
Sad, I think TM infringement sales, more harm than good to the industry.
Only Mike can pull this off. I kindly ask him to stop sharing "TM" sales lol.

Samer

IMO, he is giving less and harming the industry a lot. Just reporting big sales without much detail of purpose of acquiring those sold domains, total yearly cost, profits, loss, etc. Nothing is shared which in short gives nothing but the wrong hope especially to newbies who think any crappy domain can be sold for big money. That's just ridiculous.

Either share it with complete detail or stop showing off at all.

 

[capybara]

Mike tweeted Sold UberDirect (.)com for $9888 on 1/2/2020, got for $20, 2019.

Uber is a dictionary term, one of a kind with super, hyper, ultra, mega and so on.

 

[Recons.Com]

Yes, i forgot about that. Well played.

You forgot "Uber" The worst damage Mike can do is announce (TM) sales.

Mike tweeted Sold UberDirect (.)com for $9888 on 1/2/2020, got for $20, 2019.
Sadly, I think TM infringement sales, more harm than good to the industry.
Only Mike can pull this off. I kindly ask him to stop sharing "TM" sales lol.

Samer

Uber is a dictionary term, one of a kind with super, hyper, ultra, mega and so on.

@Don Gondon is right. Uber is a German word that means above. Deutschland Uber Alles ))

 

[Samer]

@Don Gondon is right. Uber is a German word that means above. Deutschland Uber Alles ))

This website searches TMs for free.

Uber has 184 pages “Uber” TMs search below;

https://knowem.com/checktrademarkav...ark&searchField=trademark&searchType=contains

If UDRP your name is edged in stone forever

As @AbdulBasit.com said, it’s bad enough it’s TM, no further detail?

Even giving all details wouldnt have fixed it imo
Best to avoid this practice; But who am i talk? He’s $9888 richer. It takes smart to pull off.

 

[Recons.Com]

would anyone care to guesstimate how much total $$$ invested in this loss? 1 Mil? 2?? More?

I realize we all let names drop.. But do I sense a shift in thinking here? Dropping of a magnitude such as this was definitely never his style before..

is this another subtle indication that .com is starting to wane in light of new alternative options in the domain market?

Really? This just means a trash is a trash, even in .com

He has over 3000 names in the "under 500" bin and it is painful to read through that. Hopefully, it was some automation that did the work, because I can't imagine someone who supposedly knows domains registering all that stuff.

Also, why you think he invested 1 mill, 2 mill? These are probably mostly hand regs. He could have spent that much with let's say 5 year hold time, but also some sales over that period sure happened. Even this quality names can have 0.4% sales at around 2000$, so he might be making 50K x 0.4% x 2000= 400K, just enough to break even, without counting the value of bringing in additional 5000+ people a day to your site.

 

[Recons.Com]

This website searches TM’s for free.

Uber 184 pages of Trademarks; (Search belo)

https://knowem.com/checktrademarkav...ark&searchField=trademark&searchType=contains

If involve UDRP your name edge stone forever

And you doing harm; As @AbdulBasit.com said, it’s bad enough it’s TM, no further detail?

Even giving all details wouldnt have fixed it imo
Best to avoid this practice; But who am i talk? While he’s $9888 richer.

I dont question sale. Or his ways.
I question long-term ramifications on industry.
Dont somainers bad rep this? “cybersquat”?

Why don't you read a little about law, IP, TM before consulting on the subject? Yes, they can have TM for a dictionary word, but that would limited to certain uses, like transporting people. And only because "uber" is not generic term for this kind of service. So, you can't be in transportation and tm the word "lift", as "to give a lift" is a generic enough term for providing a ride. Apple couldn't TM usage of the word "apple" for producing apples if it was in gardening...

 

[alcy]

Money not spent renewing low-quality domains can be used to acquire bitcoin, ethereum, ...

Crypto prices are volatile but cryptocurrencies unlike most domains are liquid....

i dont think u can call somehting that can be 10k one day and 1k next day liquid..

 

[Recons.Com]

I’d rather avoid trouble.
No amount of “generic“ is good enough
Like a cloud that hangs over ur head until sell.
Weigh your opportunity cost and risk-reward.

GET THE HELL OUT “google” “Microsoft” uber
even Apple, the $1 trillion company, yes; the same Apple known to pick little guy 2protect IP
I see doomed before you start, destined to fail,
go ahead register “uber” “Apple” anything.

You dont need to be a lawyer to know heading.

You are confused, apparently. First, you just made a claim that selling UberDirect was somehow violating Uber's TM, which doesn't make sense. As, most word+word.com pretty much everyone holds, probably you too, contain a word that has a TM in a specific area or more within a geography. There is a reason why no one can get a dictionary word into their monopoly, as that would mean few thousand big corporations would take over and limit branding for millions of others and create so much confusion.

Second, you are just throwing "google" "Microsoft" "Uber" "Apple" all together, apparently not understanding the difference TM-ing a made up word and a dictionary word.

There was a reason @AbdulBasit.com listed made up brands only...

 

[Recons.Com]

Money not spent renewing low-quality domains can be used to acquire bitcoin, ethereum, ...

Crypto prices are volatile but cryptocurrencies unlike most domains are liquid....

Liquidity doesn't equal profitability. Some cryptos might be liquid, but the volatility can kill your investment.

Domains are not liquid, but that is compensated by 5x-1000x margins that are required for xx% profitability overall.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

A really interesting analysis by Konstantinos. So if I understand it correctly, it is the net number using his Nameservers that is down by the 50,000. That does not necessarily mean that he just let that many expire. Isn't it possible that he sold a huge package deal to someone? If that many had expired, wouldn't it have been obvious in the drop numbers?

Also, by being down 50,000 that is only the number dropped if he did not pick up any domain names at all during that interval, so he may have dropped or group sold even more than that.

I wish we had a comment from Mike Mann so we would know what his thinking is on this. Does anyone know if he has commented about it on his Twitter account?

Bob

 

[lock]

I dropped them first they seem to pick up everything i drop so wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Yusupbabay]

Mike Mann dropped 50,000 domains, this means more choices can be registered.
Can you name here 88 domain names belonging to Mike Mann have expired?

 

[lock]

With quality it will still get to a point where the average price needs to rise to counter overheads. If some domains fall into a category that mathematically are really just a gamble as no proven history they might be seen as only a punt rather that suit the proven algorithm business model that is working.

 

[Recons.Com]

Mike Mann dropped 50,000 domains, this means more choices can be registered.
Can you name here 88 domain names belonging to Mike Mann have expired?

Why 88? )))

 

[frank-germany]

... if you receive offers that did not end up in a sale, this might indicate that a domain is a development candidate.

great hint

 

[Yusupbabay]

Yes, i forgot about that. Well played.

You forgot "Uber" The worst damage Mike can do is announce (TM) sales.

Mike tweeted Sold UberDirect (.)com for $9888 on 1/2/2020, got for $20, 2019.
Sadly, I think TM infringement sales, more harm than good to the industry.
Only Mike can pull this off. I kindly ask him to stop sharing "TM" sales lol.

Samer

Why 88? )))

most Mike Mann sales prices have the last number 88

 

[frank-germany]

is this another subtle indication that .com is starting to wane in light of new alternative options in the domain market?

no
it's just a hint
that Mike registers pigon sht domains
(only in large quantities)

as we all do

I hope for him he deleted

weihnachtsgeschenken /com

as well




... no he missed that one

Hey Mike
as you unfriended me on facebook
I couldn't tell you

the word you want
is either

weihnachtsgeschenk ( singular )
or
weihnachtsgeschenke ( plural)

 

[frank-germany]

Uber is a dictionary term, one of a kind with super, hyper, ultra, mega and so on.

the german word "über" which means superior / above / about
is the core of "uber"

 

[BRANDERX]

no
it's just a hint
that Mike registers pigon sht domains
(only in large quantities)

as we all do

I hope for him he deleted

weihnachtsgeschenken /com

as well




... no he missed that one

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ChristmasPresents, no value? because?

 

[capybara]

ChristmasPresents, no value? because?

I don't know German but I think its not a correct form of this word to be sellable, the -en affix is an extra.

Edit: Frank already explained that in the post above.

 

[OnlineDomainCom]

Mike is NOT reporting most of his sales.
Read my latest sales report to understand this.

Read this article to the bottom...
And check related links to his sales during previous pandemic months...
Such monthly income is definitely not enough to keep 3XX,XXX domains...

 

[OnlineDomainCom]

No Bob, nameservers were just a confirmation of what I found.

A really interesting analysis by Konstantinos. So if I understand it correctly, it is the net number using his Nameservers that is down by the 50,000. That does not necessarily mean that he just let that many expire. Isn't it possible that he sold a huge package deal to someone? If that many had expired, wouldn't it have been obvious in the drop numbers?

Also, by being down 50,000 that is only the number dropped if he did not pick up any domain names at all during that interval, so he may have dropped or group sold even more than that.

I wish we had a comment from Mike Mann so we would know what his thinking is on this. Does anyone know if he has commented about it on his Twitter account?

Bob

 

[Recons.Com]

Mike is NOT reporting most of his sales.
Read my latest sales report to understand this.

I find it fascinating that virtually blog post of yours on the subject you have a line clearly stating that the reported sales are not all, refer to averages to prove the point, mention that all of us do similar and withhold some/all sales data, yet right there in the comments or here, people start using the reported sale info to project and make conclusions on the profitability and the business model of domainmarket...