.ca Dot CA Discussion, Sales, and Showcase

[whitebark]

Domains For Next MyID .ca Auction

These are the upcoming domains and reserve range for the next/current myid.ca auction:

666.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Acrobats.ca ($251 - $500)
affordabletrips.ca ($251 - $500)
AirportRentals.ca ($1001 - $1750)
albertabyowner.ca ($251 - $500)
BridalOnline.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Broke.ca ($5001 - $7500)
CanadianDrugStores.ca ($501 - $750)
CanadianTennis.ca ($1001 - $1750)
CarStore.ca ($1001 - $1750)
CheaperFlights.ca ($101 - $250)
CraftSales.ca ($501 - $750)
DiscountTours.ca ($1001 - $1750)
DivorceTips.ca ($501 - $750)
DownloadFreeRingtone(s).ca ($2 - $100)
DUILawyers.ca ($1001 - $1750)
EasyIncome.ca ($751 - $1000)
EcoVoyage.ca ($251 - $500)
EngineeringCareer.ca ($751 - $1000)
Enlargement(s).ca ($751 - $1000)
ExoticHolidays.ca ($1001 - $1750)
FashionOnline.ca ($2501 - $3750)
Fertiliser.ca ($1001 - $1750)
FitnessJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
FlightSearch.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Freebies.ca ($7501 - $10000)
FreelancingJobs.ca ($2501 - $3750)
FurnitureLiquidation.ca ($751 - $1000)
GayBlog.ca ($251 - $500)
GayCanada.ca ($3751 - $5000)
HealthGuide.ca ($1001 - $1750)
HearingAids.ca ($7501 - $10000)
Hired.ca ($7501 - $10000)
HockeyGame.ca ($1001 - $1750)
homegardens.ca ($251 - $500)
HowToDance.ca ($501 - $750)
iBlogs.ca ($751 - $1000)
InternetHelp.ca ($251 - $500)
InternetPhones.ca ($1751 - $2500)
JFK.ca ($1001 - $1750)
JointVenture.ca ($2501 - $3750)
KitchenWare.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Lake-Ontario.ca ($1001 - $1750)
LogosOnline.ca ($501 - $750)
Mask.ca ($3751 - $5000)
MontrealLaser.ca ($251 - $500)
MontrealTravel.ca ($1001 - $1750)
MusicJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
NutritionJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
OakvilleFlowers.ca ($501 - $750)
OnlineCoupons.ca ($1001 - $1750)
OnlineDates.ca ($2501 - $3750)
OnlineGaming.ca ($2501 - $3750)
OnlineStock.ca ($751 - $1000)
OnlineStocks.ca ($751 - $1000)
OrganicStore.ca ($1751 - $2500)
PharmaceuticalCareer.ca ($751 - $1000)
PizzaRestaurant(s).ca ($101 - $250)
PrivatePilots.ca ($501 - $750)
ProFootball.ca ($251 - $500)
QuebecHoneymoons.ca ($1001 - $1750)
RollerBlading.ca ($5001 - $7500)
SaskatoonRealtors.ca ($101 - $250)
SelfImprovement.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Sensual.ca ($10001 - $15000)
Shareware.ca ($15001 - $25000)
SingleChristian.ca ($251 - $500)
SmallJob.ca ($1001 - $1750)
SNN.ca ($251 - $500)
Snores.ca ($1751 - $2500)
SportsStore.ca ($501 - $750)
TechJobs.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TeddyBear.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Theme.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TNN.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoComputer.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoComputers.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoDentists.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TravelAuction.ca ($2501 - $3750)
UniqueGifts.ca ($2501 - $3750)
UsedHouses.ca ($251 - $500)
UsedLaptops.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Valuable.ca ($501 - $750)
VancouverHomeForSale.ca ($101 - $250)
War.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Women.ca ($50000)


I can see a number of these getting picked up - there a few others I'm surprised they accepted the high reserve and can't see selling because of it. What do you think?

 

[DomainRecap]

Thats a good feature! The names I dropped were valued over $3k! I assume that's US, so I bought them back at regfee!

LOL, good job!

And yes, it's USD by default but you can change the currency using a drop-down arrow way at the bottom of the page.

 

[esdiel]

Thats a good feature! The names I dropped were valued over $3k! I assume that's US, so I bought them back at regfee!

GD Valuations are always in USD, regardless of what currency setting you have. It also shows the (USD) next to the valuation. For me anyway.

 

[DomainRecap]

I like the new "check valuation" option. Nicely done!

No problem, and hopefully it looks a little better next week.

GD Valuations are always in USD, regardless of what currency setting you have. It also shows the (USD) next to the valuation. For me anyway.

Yeah, I think you're right for that screen, but when you look at Valuation in other areas, like auction lists, closeouts, the auction page, etc, the currency changes.

I thought they all changed.

 

[andrewschnarr]

Picked up Watched.ca and ProxySites.ca

 

[rlm]

Anyone here win the myid auctions today? Or did they go into the black hole?

 

[DomainRecap]

Anyone here win the myid auctions today? Or did they go into the black hole?

I'm sure "someone" won them.

 

[rlm]

I'm sure "someone" won them.

Yes, but are they here and willing to speak up?!? Even if that "someone" didn't win, I'm curious how those auctions ended up, so if anyone can share, much appreciated. I missed out on it...

 

[esdiel]

Yes, but are they here and willing to speak up?!? Even if that "someone" didn't win, I'm curious how those auctions ended up, so if anyone can share, much appreciated. I missed out on it...

Wasn't me, but I also like to know how things played out (especially when the domain seems to finish in hands of myid).

Not to change the convo, but I saw that CIRA made reference to your previous Jobs.ca domain in a recent article: https://cira.ca/blog/ca-domains/what-do-if-domain-name-you-want-taken

Nice to see CIRA promote/speak of the secondary market a little, in a positive way.

 

[alcy]

ok I did bite on a couple recently expired yesterday..

paper///wallet
.ca

crypto markets
.ca

sold paper////wallet///.info for $1k last yr.

well.. good luck to me then.

 

[rlm]

Not to change the convo, but I saw that CIRA made reference to your previous Jobs.ca domain in a recent article: https://cira.ca/blog/ca-domains/what-do-if-domain-name-you-want-taken
Nice to see CIRA promote/speak of the secondary market a little, in a positive way.

Thanks, it is nice to see that acknowledgement for the secondary .CA market. BTW, George Kirikos uncovered CreditCards.ca in corporate filings, but obviously it hasn't been picked up by namebio. Although I'm under an NDA, there is this:

https://www.thedomains.com/2011/08/...domainer-spending-over-90-million-in-domains/

Probably not enough for Namebio to go on I guess.

 

[esdiel]

Thanks, it is nice to see that acknowledgement for the secondary .CA market. BTW, George Kirikos uncovered CreditCards.ca in corporate filings, but obviously it hasn't been picked up by namebio. Although I'm under an NDA, there is this:

https://www.thedomains.com/2011/08/...domainer-spending-over-90-million-in-domains/

Probably not enough for Namebio to go on I guess.

Interesting... How long you think before we see big sales like this in the .CA space again? Or will we probably never know/see that many because of NDAs?

 

[wwwweb]

Thanks, it is nice to see that acknowledgement for the secondary .CA market. BTW, George Kirikos uncovered CreditCards.ca in corporate filings, but obviously it hasn't been picked up by namebio. Although I'm under an NDA, there is this:

https://www.thedomains.com/2011/08/...domainer-spending-over-90-million-in-domains/

Probably not enough for Namebio to go on I guess.

Congrats, on your sale, nicely done. This has become an extremely crowded space online, but having the .ca is very important as most .com sites are mainly for Americans when it comes to credit card signups.

 

[topdom]

I registered a great .ca domain (a drop). ..After registration I was asked to provide canada contact info. And I asked, will this be enough. (they didn't require canadian contact at the beginning , they asked "after registering it").. Then they remained quiet, or said meaningless , inconsistent things.., and the domain was lost . So probably it was stolen from me. That domain is still inactive: Why, because I'm the real owner, they want it to expire, so it will look like I didn't renew it.. I didn't start my fight yet.

 

[wwwweb]

I registered a great .ca domain (a drop). ..After registration I was asked to provide canada contact info. And I asked, will this be enough. (they didn't require canadian contact at the beginning , they asked "after registering it").. Then they remained quiet, or said meaningless , inconsistent things.., and the domain was lost . So probably it was stolen from me. That domain is still inactive: Why, because I'm the real owner, they want it to expire, so it will look like I didn't renew it.. I didn't start my fight yet.

Well if your not a Canadian resident, or a business with a registered operating office, you are in violation of their registration policies which you accepted when you registered your domain. Those TOS you agreed to when you paid, they outline everything, so nobody stole it from you, but you failed to adhere to their TOS.

The registry does go out of their way to protect the names for the use of Canadian residents, and businesses doing business within their territories.

 

[topdom]

No, I was going to provide Canada contact.

 

[rlm]

Interesting... How long you think before we see big sales like this in the .CA space again? Or will we probably never know/see that many because of NDAs?

6 figure sales for .CA are indeed rare, reported or not.

Will they happen again? Probably. Will the public know about it? Probably not. In my experience, almost every sale from the lowish 5-figures and up range is to a corporation. It's then handled by a corporate lawyer, and thus under a non-disclosure as part of a purchase agreement. Even if they use Escrow.com they usually still want a separate domain sale agreement with a bunch of additional terms and conditions. But there is the odd exception as I had a 6-fig sale not under NDA just in December, sold to a chinese buyer (an LLL.com) via escrow.com. But in my experience at least, no NDA is rare. But DNJournal reports on a lot of stuff that wasn't under NDA, so clearly many are done without it.

 

[Spex]

I registered a great .ca domain (a drop). ..After registration I was asked to provide canada contact info. And I asked, will this be enough. (they didn't require canadian contact at the beginning , they asked "after registering it").. Then they remained quiet, or said meaningless , inconsistent things.., and the domain was lost . So probably it was stolen from me. That domain is still inactive: Why, because I'm the real owner, they want it to expire, so it will look like I didn't renew it.. I didn't start my fight yet.

Would the "canada contact info" be yours or would you be using a random Canadian address? If I understand correctly, you're not Canadian so if you were planning on gaming the system no one stole anything from you. You were trying to register a domain while being an ineligible registrant.

Just make sure you get refunded. You are not owed anything more then that

 

[Spex]

6 figure sales for .CA are indeed rare, reported or not.

Will they happen again? Probably. Will the public know about it? Probably not. In my experience, almost every sale from the lowish 5-figures and up range is to a corporation.

Thanks for the insight @rlm , love hearing stories from people who have been in the game a while.

In your experience, are these corporations (whether foreign or Canadian) spending $Xxxxx+++ just to get the matching .CA or are there actual corporations spending that kind of money to launch on a .CA only?

 

[topdom]

It is my problem whether I provide my contact or real /fake contact, or someone else's contact. A registrar is not allowed to guess I won't be able to meet those standards and so steal the domain based on such a guess.

 

[Spex]

It is my problem whether I provide my contact or real /fake contact, or someone else's contact. A registrar is not allowed to guess I won't be able to meet those standards and so steal the domain based on such a guess.

True you can try to game the system and if they don't catch you then I guess you can get away with it.

But you can't really call it theft because A) You are not eligible and B) CIRA would just be returning the domain to general availability. They won't be keeping it for themselves

Just a reminder, unless you meet the following requirements you run the risk of being ruled ineligible and CIRA would have every right to void your registration. But in your defense, I hope they would at least issue you a refund.

https://cira.ca/policy/rules-and-procedures/canadian-presence-requirements-registrants

2. Canadian Presence Requirements. On and after November 8, 2000 only the following individuals and entities will be permitted to apply to CIRA (through a CIRA certified registrar) for the registration of, and to hold and maintain the registration of, a .ca domain name:

1. Canadian citizen. A Canadian citizen of the age of majority under the laws of the province or territory in Canada in which he or she resides or last resided;
   
   
2. Permanent resident. A permanent resident as defined in the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, (Canada) S.C. 2001, c. 27, as amended from time to time, who is ordinarily resident in Canada (as defined below) and of the age of majority under the laws of the province or territory in Canada in which he or she resides or last resided;(amended June 5, 2003)
   
   
3. Legal representative. An executor, administrator or other legal representative of a Person listed in paragraph (a) and (b) above;
   
   
4. Corporation. A corporation under the laws of Canada or any province or territory of Canada;
   
   
5. Trust. A trust established and subsisting under the laws of a province or territory of Canada, more than 66.6% of whose trustees meet one of the conditions set out in paragraphs (a) to (d) above;
   
   
6. Partnership. A partnership, more than 66.6% of whose partners meet one of the conditions set out in paragraphs (a) to (e) above, which is registered as a partnership under the laws of any province or territory of Canada;
   
   
7. Association. An unincorporated organization, association or club:
   
   (i) at least 80% of whose members: (A) are ordinarily resident in Canada (if such members are individuals); or (B) meet one of the conditions set out in paragraphs (a) to (f) above (if such members are not individuals); and
   
   (ii) at least 80% of whose directors, officers, employees, managers, administrators or other representatives are ordinarily resident in Canada;
   
   
8. Trade union. A trade union which is recognized by a labour board under the laws of Canada or any province or territory of Canada and which has its head office in Canada;
   
   
9. Political party. A political party registered under a relevant electoral law of Canada or any province or territory of Canada;
   
   
10. Educational institution. Any of the following:
    
    (i) a university or college which is located in Canada and which is authorized or recognized as a university or college under an Act of the legislature of a province or territory of Canada; or
    
    a college, post-secondary school, vocational school, secondary school, pre-school or other school or educational institution which is located in Canada and which is recognized by the educational authorities of a province or territory of Canada or licensed under or maintained by an Act of Parliament of Canada or of the legislature of a province or territory of Canada;
    
    
11. Library, Archive or Museum. An institution, whether or not incorporated, that:
    
    (i) is located in Canada; and
    
    (ii) is not established or conducted for profit or does not form part of, or is not administered or directly or indirectly controlled by, a body that is established or conducted for profit, in which is held and maintained a collection of documents and other materials that is open to the public or to researchers;
    
    
12. Hospital. A hospital which is located in Canada and which is licensed, authorized or approved to operate as a hospital under an Act of the legislature of a province or territory of Canada;
    
    
13. Her Majesty the Queen. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second and her successors;
    
    
14. Indian band. Any Indian band as defined in the Indian Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. I-5, as amended from time to time, and any group of Indian bands;
    
    
15. Aboriginal Peoples. Any Inuit, First Nation, Metis or other people indigenous to Canada, any individual belonging to any Inuit, First Nation, Metis or other people indigenous to Canada and any collectivity of such Aboriginal peoples;
    
    
16. Government. Her Majesty the Queen in right of Canada, a province or a territory; an agent of Her Majesty the Queen in right of Canada, of a province or of a territory; a federal, provincial or territorial Crown corporation, government agency or government entity; or a regional, municipal or local area government;
    
    
17. Trade-mark registered in Canada. A Person which does not meet any of the foregoing conditions, but which is the owner of a trade-mark which is the subject of a registration under the Trade-marks Act (Canada) R.S.C. 1985, c.T-13 as amended from time to time, but in this case such permission is limited to an application to register a .ca domain name consisting of or including the exact word component of that registered trade-mark; or
    
    
18. Official marks. A Person which does not meet any of the foregoing conditions, but which is a Person intended to be protected by Subsection 9(1) of the TradeMarks Act (Canada) at whose request the Registrar of Trade-marks has published notice of adoption of any badge, crest, emblem, official mark or other mark pursuant to Subsection 9(1), but in this case such permission is limited to an application to register a .ca domain name consisting of or including the exact word component of such badge, crest, emblem, official mark or other mark in respect of which such Person requested publications.

 

[rlm]

Thanks for the insight @rlm , love hearing stories from people who have been in the game a while.

In your experience, are these corporations (whether foreign or Canadian) spending $Xxxxx+++ just to get the matching .CA or are there actual corporations spending that kind of money to launch on a .CA only?

Great question. Of the 6-fig .ca deals I've either bought or sold, I guess you could say that only one was to get the matching .ca, CreditCards.ca.

In the 5-figure range, I don't know off the top of my head, there's a lot more of those, I'd have to go through my records to see. But my gut would be to say most weren't buying the matching .ca, they were just happy to get the .ca domain since the .com would have been out of reach. And the .com may or may not have even been developed, I'm not sure that's much of an issue.

I had a sale last year where a Canadian bought a 1-word.COM almost simultaneously with the my matching .CA. I assume that's fairly rare. But he splits his time between the US and Canada so he wanted to be sure and cover both.

There was another recent inquiry where the person said they thought my price was too expensive considering that the .COM was already developed - so they obviously took that as a negative against the .CA. I think that was a first for me hearing that. Maybe others have thought it but didn't tell me that. I guess they had delusions of thinking they could've also afforded the 1-word.com had it not been developed (even though they rejected my very reasonable price for the .ca, mid XXXX).

From my perspective, if you had a product or service type domain like say cars.ca but cars.com was developed, then its a bonus to have cars.com developed as it leads to a few pluses. One, maybe you'll get relevant traffic out of it with no risk of trademark issues, Two, maybe they'll eventually buy you out. But if you had a generic/brandable name like say Summit.ca or Ikon.ca, then having the .COM developed is probably a wash. There's a chance they could buy you out if they go multinational. But if not, their traffic spillover isn't going to be much help. And you're chance of ever buying the .com is significantly less.

So all that being said, sure, some huge multinationals want the matching .ca. But many use ca.domain.com or domain.com/ca/ that it definitely impacts the perception of need for the .ca. I think that's why I probably see the majority of sales to buyers who don't care so much about the .com because they know its out of reach. And some are even willing to use the better .CA in Canada along side their different but weaker .com in the US. Just sold one last week in that situation. They have a {service}{geo}.com in the US, but in Canada they now have the {service}.ca.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

In case people have not noticed the most recent NameBio release has a .ca in first place. Jane sold for $25,000 at Sedo. It is registered at GoDaddy Canada. Does anyone know of the seller or end user. Re user, there are several possibilities including this cannabis related company: Jane Technologies that recently raised $21 million. There are also several two word names ending in Jane in corporate use in Canada plus of course the Jane/app people as possibilities. As of now the name does not go anywhere except GoDaddy. Nice PayDay for someone. It seems to only have a creation date in 2016 but presume it must have expired and got picked up again.
Bob

 

[DomainRecap]

It looks like it was registered well past 2016 (2003-4?) and also doesn't seem like it was on the TBR, so likely one investor sold it to another in 2016.

And as for the buyer, I'm betting on the Weed Dealers flush with cash.

 

[nafti]

And as for the buyer, I'm betting on the Weed Dealers flush with cash.

Or maybe it was these guys? They do have some good looking breasts!

 

[Bob Hawkes]

It looks like it was registered well past 2016 (2003-4?) and also doesn't seem like it was on the TBR, so likely one investor sold it to another in 2016.

And as for the buyer, I'm betting on the Weed Dealers flush with cash.

If I had to bet I would agree with your likely choice. The clothing boutique operating on the .com might be another possibility, I guess, but unlikely I think.

I was wondering if it had been on a TBR. Thanks for checking.

Bob