new gtlds ALERT: .XYZ Registry Stealing Back Newly Registered Numerics?

[lotk]

I registered all the below domains on 6/1/2017 after searching for 10's of thousands of numerics to purchase. Since I purchased, I renewed for 1 year and parked. Last night, all the domains had my 1 year renewal removed without any notification or email (or refund) and all have been put into the Pending Delete status so the parked pages no longer resolve, again, without any notification or email.

It's ridiculous that a registry can advertise on selling numerics, we research for hours and then buy available numerics from them, and then I'm assuming is going through the processes to steal them back. I've been a supporter of the xyz registry but that may change soon. This may be a warning for all .xyz domain owners if the registry is taking back registered domains.

Here are all the domains I purchased. My name is still in the whois but as you can see the domains are now Pending Delete even though they don't expire until 6/1/2018. I have emailed both the XYZ Registry and Dynadot (where I registered the domains) about 6-7 hours ago. Still no explanation whatsoever.

I will update this thread as I get more information. Do note that I know of at least 1 other person who is in the same situation as me.

176.xyz
175.xyz
174.xyz
173.xyz
172.xyz
170.xyz
169.xyz
167.xyz
165.xyz
164.xyz
162.xyz
159.xyz
157.xyz
154.xyz
153.xyz
152.xyz
149.xyz
147.xyz
146.xyz
145.xyz
143.xyz
142.xyz
140.xyz
137.xyz
134.xyz
130.xyz
129.xyz
127.xyz
125.xyz
124.xyz
107.xyz
104.xyz

 

[Marc Riccio]

.XYZ is next .COM , maybe in 2025.

Being that I am 69 years old, I can't wait another 8 years to try to make $50...

To paraphraze the Soup Nazy ---- NO XYZ FOR ME !

 

[Rammbo]

I just regged xyz numeric with GD and it went through...@Silentptnr maybe it's in your account now.

 

[GoKaizen]

.ART Registry Issues

Hello everyone,

This is my first post at NamePros, referred here by the very knowledgeable Mike at Domain Sherpa.

I'm having issues with one of the nTLD Registries, namely Art dot Art who have had found themselves out of their depth with running a professional Registry over the last 48 hours since opening their doors to professional members of the Art industry for domain name registrations, prior to general public release. They have now temporarily shut down their service.

I registered a very good four letter domain name ****.ART with them 48 hours ago for £289. The order was processed in which I received an email and payment accepted in full.

The problem came several hours later when .ART cancelled my registration saying that my purchase was on an "unpublished list" and should not have been available for registration.

Is this common place with domain name Registries or simply bad practice? I suspect that they are seeing what is of interest, cancel and will re-list at 10 or 20 times the original value. They have yet to clarify where in their T&C they are allowed to, without good reason, revoke a registration.

I'm aware that some Registry's are very honourable when it comes to domain name registrations and "mistakes" on their end:

17928-club-sells-200000-domain-for-10-99

I look forward to your replies and possibly applying pressure to any Registry to honour their agreements, else they come across as unprofessional and not trustworthy.


Many thanks,

Derrick

New G registries treat customers like sh*t.

 

[.NJ]

Here is Dynadots response. XYZ registry has not said a word.

We received an email from the .xyz registry last night. These domains were reserved/premium domains, and an error on their part allowed the domains to be registered for standard fees. They are not honouring the registrations, unfortunately.

The domains will be deleted, and your payment refunded. That should be completed either tomorrow or Monday morning.

My sincerest apologies on behalf of the registry.

Technically that is domain theft on their part.

The domains were paid fair and square and ownership was transfered to you.

You now own those domains.

You have a case if you wanted to involve an attorney.

A judge would have a field day with the registry.

Start the process for filing theft charges.

Let them answer the questions in court.

Clear cut case in my opinion.

Mistake or not, you own those domains now.

If they never got transfered to you that would be a different story.

 

[offthehandle]

.ART Registry Issues



New G registries treat customers like sh*t.

This thread of complaints has grown quite long, sorry that you guys seem to be experiencing this. Imagine being an end user customer and how they feel! At least domainers have some understanding of the process.

 

[Silentptnr]

UPDATE: My domain finally showed up at GD. So weird. Almost 28 hours after I regged it.

 

[Silentptnr]

By the way, the domain was 99889988.xyz. Waste of $1!

 

[Rinkuji]

Stay away from all GTLDs

 

[offthehandle]

By the way, the domain was 99889988.xyz. Waste of $1!

Losing your time and enthusiasm, that is the part that blows. Let me see,
goo g le translate says those numbers translate in pinyin : "dont-buy-any-xyz" lol.

Reread it, congrats you got it.

 

[Silentptnr]

Losing your time and enthusiasm, that is the part that blows. Let me see,
goo g le translate says those numbers translate in pinyin : "dont-buy-any-xyz" lol.

Sorry, nice pattern.

Watch, next week the registry has it listed themselves as reserved, premium. If they do, make sure you post it.

Yeah, I've stayed away from .xyz pretty much. I've made about 1k on one xyz domain I had.

I had only two xyz domains left before now. Now I have added a couple of chinese type numerics. Maybe sometime in the future the chinese market for .xyz numerics will pick up.

I spent two dollars and grabbed..

99889988.xyz
and
8877788.xyz

That's all I'm buying. Both are in my account.

 

[anantj]

vote with your dollars and support only the registries that treat you well.

lol... Sorry but wasn't aware that Verisign treats registries and registrants well. If they did not have the compulsions of the US Dept of Commerce, you'd be paying significantly higher prices for your .COM domains (for all 3 actions - reg, txfr, renewal)

 

[dordomai]

lol... Sorry but wasn't aware that Verisign treats registries and registrants well. If they did not have the compulsions of the US Dept of Commerce, you'd be paying significantly higher prices for your .COM domains (for all 3 actions - reg, txfr, renewal)

never heard of them stealing domains.

 

[anantj]

never heard of them stealing domains.

That's not the only way to illtreat customers...

 

[Marc Riccio]

That's not the only way to illtreat customers...

Don't you wish Amazon was a registrar?

 

[dordomai]

Don't you wish Amazon was a registrar?

amazon is a registrar

 

[Ategy]

I'm not going to comment on .xyz as I have a million times and just can't comprehend why anyone would get anything but the top 10,000 domains (2L and single ultra-premium key-words, possibly 3N) .. but I will comment on the problem ...

Unfortunately this sort of "glitch" happens ALL THE TIME! It's usually the result of a communications error between the registry and registrar when you search and/or register. Likely a database issue is my guess.

This happened to me at GoDaddy with some ultra-colossal-premium .news (still like world.news, sports.news, mortgage.news, etc etc). In one night I spent a few hours trying stuff grabbed about 20 such domains ... only to have them removed later. Needless to say I was pissed .. in the time it took them to cancel I had quickly formed a partnership to develop them! Godaddy didn't even bat an eye .. just said that's the way it is .. fine print bla bla .. I thought with their clout they could have at least pushed the registrar to offer me one of them to make up for all my lost time.

This kind of thing is destined to be even more likely to happen when you have crazy peak periods (1cent promos and their drops, etc).

 

[Marc Riccio]

amazon is a registrar

amazon is a registrar

Amazon is a registrar? I can buy and sell domains on Amazon? Surely, Sir, you jest...

 

[Fancy.domains]

Amazon is a registrar? I can buy and sell domains on Amazon? Surely, Sir, you jest...

I sold www.a.domains to them via a middle hand. That name is now redirected to that mentioned service.

 

[Fancy.domains]

I'm not going to comment on .xyz as I have a million times and just can't comprehend why anyone would get anything but the top 10,000 domains (2L and single ultra-premium key-words, possibly 3N) .. but I will comment on the problem ...

Unfortunately this sort of "glitch" happens ALL THE TIME! It's usually the result of a communications error between the registry and registrar when you search and/or register. Likely a database issue is my guess.

This happened to me at GoDaddy with some ultra-colossal-premium .news (still like world.news, sports.news, mortgage.news, etc etc). In one night I spent a few hours trying stuff grabbed about 20 such domains ... only to have them removed later. Needless to say I was pissed .. in the time it took them to cancel I had quickly formed a partnership to develop them! Godaddy didn't even bat an eye .. just said that's the way it is .. fine print bla bla .. I thought with their clout they could have at least pushed the registrar to offer me one of them to make up for all my lost time.

This kind of thing is destined to be even more likely to happen when you have crazy peak periods (1cent promos and their drops, etc).

But is this ever happening with a .com? Or a .org?

 

[dordomai]

Amazon is a registrar? I can buy and sell domains on Amazon? Surely, Sir, you jest...

http://docs.aws.amazon.com/Route53/latest/DeveloperGuide/registrar.html

not on amazon.com but aws.amazon.com, you can buy but not sell

 

[Marc Riccio]

http://docs.aws.amazon.com/Route53/latest/DeveloperGuide/registrar.html

not on amazon.com but aws.amazon.com, you can buy but not sell

So, half a registrar.... you can buy, but you can't sell.

 

[dordomai]

So, half a registrar.... you can buy, but you can't sell.

why half? most registrars do not have marketplaces to sell domains.

 

[Marc Riccio]

That is what I am saying... instead of having such a complex system of buying and seling, a simpler way would be for GoDaddy or someone with mass appeal, Amazon as an example, to set up a simple buy/sell platform where anyone could buy and resell domains easily and instantly, just as if you were buying a sweater.

The age of Buggy Whip Manufacturers is over. Innovation and accessability fosters growth.

 

[Jim Holleran]

Any of you guys get that BS email from Uniregistry about 6n-9n .xyz. What the hell happened to Frank? Nice guy, but that was the most ridiculous email I have ever seen, I actually thought it was a phishing email. I was thinking is Frank really that delusional, or he thinks everybody else is??? I was laughing so hard after reading that email, my young kids ask me what was so funny, I told them that I read the funniest joke ever. Comparing .xyz to Bitcoin is nonsense so many old time domainers left the industry and have made Millions in BTC, has anybody made more than 5 cents in .xyz?

For those who are new who are reading this, please be careful out there. Listen to the right people, and many of those sales you see are BS. For those who been around long like myself, these made up BS sales go back to the Beauty.cc 1 Million Sale that never happened about 15 years, ago. So be careful, it's your hard earned money, and don't listen to people who have there own agenda and don't give a shit about you.

 

[dordomai]

Any of you guys get that BS email from Uniregistry about 6n-9n .xyz. What the hell happened to Frank? Nice guy, but that was the most ridiculous email I have ever seen, I actually thought it was a phishing email. I was thinking is Frank really that delusional, or he thinks everybody else is??? I was laughing so hard after reading that email, my young kids ask me what was so funny, I told them that I read the funniest joke ever. Comparing .xyz to Bitcoin is nonsense so many old time domainers left the industry and have made Millions in BTC, has anybody made more than 5 cents in .xyz?

For those who are new who are reading this, please be careful out there. Listen to the right people, and many of those sales you see are BS. For those who been around long like myself, these made up BS sales go back to the Beauty.cc 1 Million Sale that never happened about 15 years, ago. So be careful, it's your hard earned money, and don't listen to people who have there own agenda and don't give a sh*t about you.

it's hard to sell to end-users and the market is more competitive than ever but some people discovered that it is easier to sell dreams/picks and shovels to speculators.

the .com boom made a few people handregging domains millionaires and every year people try their luck with domains thinking they can handreg the next million dollar name.

tens of millions must have been lost by speculators with .whatever registrations, maybe even more than 100 million.