new gtlds Why "the new gTLDs haters" lose hours and hours in new gTLD discussions???

[Wass]

Why "the new gTLDs haters" lose hours and hours in new gTLD discussions???

If there is a bad news for new gTLDs, "the new gTLDs haters" tell us that the news is true...
If there is a good news for new gTLDs, "the new gTLDs haters" tell us that the news is false...

And these haters work like as a team...
And I have the feeling that the new gTLD discussions are very very very important for them. Why???

Why they lose so much time if they are not investors????

If you are a new gTLD hater, this question is for you:
Why you lose hours and hours in new gTLDs discussions???
And why this topic is very important for you???
Of course, you know why but you can not tell us the truth...

 

[Bram C.]

The OP reminds me of this quote:

 

[Wass]

Hey, I've got a question for all of you both haters and lovers

Why "the new gTLDs haters" and "the new gTLD lovers" lose hours and hours, energy and brainpower to participate in useless and pointless threads like this one ???

I have news for you all...there will always be "haters" and "lovers" anywhere no matter what ... it's just human nature FFS !

Some people like, others dislike and others don't give a damn ...it's always been like that and will always be like that ...now you all grow up, close this crappy thread and play nice

I agree with you

 

[TRY]

Edit,..Hate is a strong word, I personally don't like new gtlds because I can't see using them for the main website. Maybe good for splash pages etc. For marketing. I think if they focused on explainIng actual ways they can benefit businesses they would be taken more seriously.

I could see new g's benefitting pages via display and ppc advertising. It's too difficult to expect people to navigate directly as I'd assume their would be major confusion on the users part on how to do so.

 

[Wass]

Well, good luck to all sincere people

 

[DomainVP]

purveyor of nonsense

 

[ZapNano]

@DomainVP, are you bias or something? Why are you only posting one photo? You know all talks here are all based on opinions. They should be all considered. By posting one photo and leveling that person, this mean defined discriminative?

 

[Shimmy]

You missed a lot of the nonsense, like a dozen of Wass's replies got deleted, since they were repeating over and over again the same nonsense without anybody replying.

 

[ZapNano]

I see what you mean; deleting his post wasn't enough. So lets do more posting, like intimidating to fullfill our craving for something...

 

[DomainVP]

@DomainVP, are you bias or something? Why are you only posting one photo? You know all talks here are all based on opinions. They should be all considered. By posting one photo and leveling that person, this mean defined discriminative?

 

[ZapNano]

This does not convinced me; I have 30 years of domain experienced and that will say it all. That's why I'm still here

 

[TRY]

This does not convinced me; I have 30 years of domain experienced and that will say it all. That's why I'm still here

30 years, Really?

 

[HotKey]

Because that which you hate, it also fascinates?

btw, myself not a hater, au contraire, and, not to take anything out of context:

gTLDs are the best thing since sliced bread

Agreed!

 

[ZapNano]

30 years, Really?

You got problem with that long experienced?

 

[namerav]

Not all, but some ngTLDs will get success.

 

[ZapNano]

That goes in everything in life. But some people put more negative pressure on something; this I don't adhere.

 

[ZapNano]

if God made us all the same, we can never accomplished anything.

 

[alcy]

This does not convinced me; I have 30 years of domain experienced and that will say it all. That's why I'm still here

just curious.... did you start to domain before they invented internet or after?

 

[ZapNano]

Yes and yes!!

 

[alcy]

Yes and yes!!

maybe you is having a languge barrier and 30 in your tongue is not same like in my tongue

mmm.. tongue.

 

[ZapNano]

@alcy everything in life is never going to be the same; but yes in insane.

 

[wwwweb]

I own large quantity of gtld's. and .com, good ones many purchased in EAP, and others off the reserve list EAP's.

The early GTLD releases you could get strong keywords at low renewal, in 2016 that is a thing of the past.

in 2014 had I put that money in .com, I would be way ahead, the issue with GTLD's for the most part is that many of the potential buyers are thinking outside the box. They see GTLD's as alternative to a taken domain. When they realize they are in the same boat, they are already thinking outside the box, and many registries give 1000 different options, they just pick something else, and bypass your potential sale, adding another year at a premium renewal.

in 2016 if you want a category killer you are looking at a high 3 figure, 4 figure renewal on it, in most cases the matching .com is with a warehouse company, and in the low to mid 4 figures still unbought.

Another issue is say you have a $250 renewal, say it takes 5 years to render a decent end user offer, the end user is not going to care to compensate you for carrying costs during the past 5 years, they might throw a $1-2K offer your way, which is really a loss to break even for a high amount of risk.

If you have listened closely most of the registry operators have quietly said gtld's are not for domain investors for the most part, and with recent releases some costing $2,xxx per year they are backing up those statements. Others are point blank, and they do not want domainers buying into their extensions.

The beauty of .com whether is is auto.com, or abcdef.com the market sets the price, all against the same $8.xx renewal. It is a natural supply, and demand marketplace, where gtld's are not as natural, and with every almost, or sounds like it dilutes your investment, and your potential end user base.

I think GTLD operators might have let names slip early on in 2014/2015, but have gotten smart, and become the domainer in themselves in 2016.

I know people tend to go the way of what is in their best interest, but I am invested in both, and I see gtlds currently digging into my cashflow in a negative light when they come up for renewals due to high renewal fees, and lower sell thru rates.

If you got some good keywords early on, or searched some trending keywords that the registry missed to mark premium you have a better chance of getting a rate of return.

I see ZapNano is being very defensive, but maybe he can share his recent sales in GTLD's, this is the best way to shut up skeptics.

 

[ZapNano]

I own large quantity of gtld's. and .com, good ones many purchased in EAP, and others off the reserve list EAP's.

The early GTLD releases you could get strong keywords at low renewal, in 2016 that is a thing of the past.

in 2014 had I put that money in .com, I would be way ahead, the issue with GTLD's for the most part is that many of the potential buyers are thinking outside the box. They see GTLD's as alternative to a taken domain. When they realize they are in the same boat, they are already thinking outside the box, and many registries give 1000 different options, they just pick something else, and bypass your potential sale, adding another year at a premium renewal.

in 2016 if you want a category killer you are looking at a high 3 figure, 4 figure renewal on it, in most cases the matching .com is with a warehouse company, and in the low to mid 4 figures still unbought.

Another issue is say you have a $250 renewal, say it takes 5 years to render a decent end user offer, the end user is not going to care to compensate you for carrying costs during the past 5 years, they might throw a $1-2K offer your way, which is really a loss to break even for a high amount of risk.

If you have listened closely most of the registry operators have quietly said gtld's are not for domain investors for the most part, and with recent releases some costing $2,xxx per year they are backing up those statements. Others are point blank, and they do not want domainers buying into their extensions.

The beauty of .com whether is is auto.com, or abcdef.com the market sets the price, all against the same $8.xx renewal. It is a natural supply, and demand marketplace, where gtld's are not as natural, and with every almost, or sounds like it dilutes your investment, and your potential end user base.

I think GTLD operators might have let names slip early on in 2014/2015, but have gotten smart, and become the domainer in themselves in 2016.

I know people tend to go the way of what is in their best interest, but I am invested in both, and I see gtlds currently digging into my cashflow in a negative light when they come up for renewals due to high renewal fees, and lower sell thru rates.

If you got some good keywords early on, or searched some trending keywords that the registry missed to mark premium you have a better chance of getting a rate of return.

I see ZapNano is being very defensive, but maybe he can share his recent sales in GTLD's, this is the best way to shut up skeptics.

"ZapNano is being very defensive" =Nope
Don't assumed.

 

[ZapNano]

I read your long letter; and I agree. I'm a business a woman so I understand how business runs.

 

[wwwweb]

"ZapNano is being very defensive" =Nope
Don't assumed.

Zapnano I want to hear about all your gtld sales, please share them with the thread so people can better understand your position

 

[Wass]

I have seen offensive comments… but it's not important, I understand...
We have the haters and the lawyers of the haters. and the lawyers of the lawyers? for when? Coming soon???
All my comments are only my point of view.
Good luck to all sincere people.