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The best way to find out if BR or BB are a good playform to sell your domains, approach them as an end user and see how quickly they respond, how hard they try to sell you a domain, and whether or not they are professional.
Thanks @Grilled, I've also heard from others that BR has pretty short review times these days however, according to the owner, he has 250 applications that he hasn't responded to. BR should clean that up. That's not fair to domainers, especially newbies. A lot of people have soured on BR because of that. It's unfortunate.
I completely understand. BrandRoot has a tough decision to make. I think they do this to grow at a manageable rate. To my knowledge they don't have 5/6 people reviewing the domains like BrandBucket so obviously to keep resources allocated properly, they limit their sellers to focus on their buyers.
Personally, I also believe it's to discourage things like that CVCV sale Domaing.com emailed saying they bought from BR then used a follow up email to promote their marketplace when he contacted the WHOIS owner and got them to list with his marketplace. It was all detailed in NP this thread.
I gave my cyical opinion on that, and a lot of other brandbucket and industry related concerns in @James Iles All things brandable with Michael Krell thread in this thread..
If BR doesn't want new sellers that's fine. But they should either close their seller application page or send rejection notices to those that have applied. It's simply not right to ask people to apply and then not respond to them. You can see some of the seller anger in the comments here.
While this is your opinion, it is my opinion that this too is done to grow at a manageble rate.
They are strict about their rules, because for them, it appears to be easier for them to work with a smaller set of sellers. Take that CVCV example for instance. They try to prevent things like that from happening, but marginally, that have to expect it to happen. They tighten their rules as much as possible to prevent this from happening, but inevitably, they have to trust the domainer.
Look, I know this a very unpopular stance to take. Especially, because I am saying this from a privileged perspective having been accepted last year for BrandRoot. Maybe they accepted me because of my domains, or maybe because I mentioned that I'm a disabled army veteran and they support our military. For what ever there reasons, I was cautious about their listing fee's after my BrandBucket experience, and only decided to published 24 domains to BrandRoot @ $10 per domain + Logo fee in or around February, 2016. Most were made up brandable domains. They were not the keyword domain that has obvious endusers and type in traffic often able to sell itself. One sold this month, not at full ask, but it sold. That's one BrandRoot sale in three months out of 24 hand regged domains.
Although, I have not always agreed with BrandRoot on NamePros, and certain quarrels have definitely rubbed me the wrong way, overall as a marketplace, I am thus far a happy BrandRoot seller. I am excited to hear about BrandRoot's domainer/logo designer programs if anybody has anything they can add.
I don't have a problem with BR being an exclusive club and you being in it. I think its great. Congrats on your sale! I'm glad you've found your niche marketplace.
actually called NP users a lotta choice words (anyone recall the Namepros Nancies rant??).
actually called NP users a lotta choice words (anyone recall the Namepros Nancies rant??).
He pretty much destroyed BR's reputation with it. As damage control, he edited pretty much every post he made in the thread. His username at the time was Pluto:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/warning-against-a-member.836920/
I'm also aware that the thread is a bit old, and things change with time. But BR isn't a company. It's a lone guy working in his free time. He isn't just the face of the "company" -- he IS the "company." I've worked with him once, and he called me every bad word imaginable... even after I stuck up & defended BR many times in the past before then. He may have apologized, but I've still no respect for him. And I'll never do business with him again.
Because he does have his names listed on his site. Unlike BB he doesn't share with us how many.d) there is no possible/deemed conflict of interest with owner/manager/ambassador/etc getting better info, logos, placement etc.
BB sold 800 names last year. If 100 of them averaged $8000, and another 100 averaged $4000, then for the rest 600 names the average sale price was (2.4M - 0.8M - 0.4M)/600 = $2K.
b) they don't manipulate the data, like BB does with the "50 sellers with 17%+ sell through rate" type of bs or don't pretend to share useless data like BB's "here are top 15 search words that happen to be just categories, not actual word within brands".
I've never seen BR publish data about there sales. Can you point to someplace where where I can see it? Thanks!
I've never seen BR publish data about there sales. Can you point to someplace where where I can see it? Thanks!
It's interesting how that number is higher at Brandroot. They have heaps more names than we do, yet their turnover rate is lower? BB is no doubt monetizing quite a bit on type-in traffic. If Brandroot lost traction on Google I guess we would take on 10's of thousands more names to get more type-in traffic sales. Pretty smart.
Just google: "sold" site:brandroot.com
That's how I found my then BrandBucket published domain (new reg) was previously sold on BrandRoot.
@Dnbolt had published a list of BrandRoots sales. I am unsure of how they were obtained. I ran an audit of these domains, found a few details that I would like to look into, and ask BR for further comment before saying anything about it publicly. Michael offered a fair explanation to the history of my domain, and historical screenshots backed the dates he provided.
My computer just crashed, so I'll have to re run the audit. I'm not sure if I still have the data. If not, I hope @Dnbolt will work with me to analyze the data.
But Recon says BR doesn't cook its data. I'm saying what data? To my knowledge BR has never published any data. If they have, then someone please provide a link. I'd like to see it.