discuss Paid domain lists? Would you pay?

[S-B]

Would anyone be interested in joining a mailing list that sends the top 250 domains every single day?

If so, would you pay for it?

If you would, what would you say is a fair price?

 

[E-Promote]

I would pay you not to do it

 

[S-B]

Shane,
A word of advice. If its good product people will pay. The big problem is you have to prove its good product and during that proving time you don't make any money. I didn't make any money for two whole years of my time. It eventually built up and started to be profitable. Now my public published and private list provide good income. You'll be able to do the same if your list is good. Just have to stick with it while people realize how good it is. I also find it works if you specialize in certain types of names. Its nearly impossible to cover all good names in all categories . I know you'll do well no matter what you do. Best of luck

Thanks for the advice, Shane. I really do appreciate it.

 

[S-B]

I would pay you not to do it

That'll be 10k payable on the 1st of every month.

 

[DNVantage]

Would not pay, for a list that would have best of the domains with high value, which would anyway be caught by drop catchers or enter into a bidding war. Don't want to pay to watch a bidding war on most of the names.

Would pay for a list that is realistic, with names that have even $xx to low $xxx value, names that would be hopefully available without need to use drop catchers.

Maybe you can have multiple lists, and charge for each separately.... a list with names that would be worth $50 to $500, ... $501 to $1000, .... $1001 to $1500, ....

More money for you too and less sharks domainers per list.

 

[Aaron.A]

Sorry Shane, but people pay good money to put their domains on these lists to get a higher sales price. So for domainers to pay money for a list which will only make them pay more for their domains doesn't make sense to me.

 

[adrianbrand]

No way. I'd rather spend the money for the subscription and the money that will add to the price of those domains to invest in a good domain that is not advertised properly.

 

[S-B]

Would not pay, for a list that would have best of the domains with high value, which would anyway be caught by drop catchers or enter into a bidding war. Don't want to pay to watch a bidding war on most of the names.

Would pay for a list that is realistic, with names that have even $xx to low $xxx value, names that would be hopefully available without need to use drop catchers.

Maybe you can have multiple lists, and charge for each separately.... a list with names that would be worth $50 to $500, ... $501 to $1000, .... $1001 to $1500, ....

More money for you too and less sharks domainers per list.

Fair enough. The problem is these aren't buy it now domains. Who knows how much they'll go for!

Sorry Shane, but people pay good money to put their domains on these lists to get a higher sales price. So for domainers to pay money for a list which will only make them pay more for their domains doesn't make sense to me.

Well, I'm not offering domains that are personal auctions. That is not the point of this.

No way. I'd rather spend the money for the subscription and the money that will add to the price of those domains to invest in a good domain that is not advertised properly.

Good luck finding a good subscription at $20. If you find one, let me know.

 

[Kate]

I'm skeptical.
The easiest way to sway the critics and doubters would be to post samples for a while and you'll see how the reception is like. People want to see and taste the goods before they sign up. Also, the intelligence has to be actionable. The more it is shared, the less valuable it becomes (for our purpose).

I have seldom paid for lists in my domaining career, and that was a long time ago (available domain names). Some lists that only the oldtimers remember about:

• the nightly dump from Sharon
• the lists from Exody

What was the question again ? Would I pay ? Seriously I dunno, but I know that some domainers are doing lots of research. I am building my own lists too. That's how I am still finding good names that slip through the cracks. So they have to exist, or I am doing something wrong.
In fact, the concept has been tried before. Many times. In general those lists don't last long, due to loss of interest from the subscribers or the producer.

You can also try a two-tier system: you send the lists to subscribers first and then you release them to the public after 2 days - so people can figure what they have been missing out on.

 

[tha-she]

$20 is not expensive enough, and will get you way to many subscribers on the list... although id assume thats the point .

To the people saying you wouldnt pay for such a list for the reason that many good ones will be gone or get to expensive... well, thats how it works, sometimes new stuff/methods/software/lists or whatever come up, and you will have to adjust to them, if now shane brings them, or someone else does dosnt matter, but to say you wouldnt pay just cause your domaining then gets harder... :/. Also not to mention, as ShaneC said... it would be impossible for ShaneB to cover it all, so there will still be gems left...

To the few of you who cant afford $20 per month and would rather put them somewhere else... if putting $20 on such a list is a problem for you, and you think they are better invested elsewhere, you should probably stop investing anyways, right now.

To the ones that just dont like the idea, thats cool, everyone can choose if or if they dont enter .

I surely would, and i would also do it if it was $50 or $100 per month, now if the lists sucks in my opinion id also be decently fast in canceling again. But $20 is really nothing for the said service. (think about it: sit there wait for the list, look at the list, grab what you want.)

 

[S-B]

I'm skeptical.
The easiest way to sway the critics and doubters would be to post samples for a while and you'll see how the reception is like. People want to see and taste the goods before they sign up. Also, the intelligence has to be actionable. The more it is shared, the less valuable it becomes (for our purpose).

I have seldom paid for lists in my domaining career, and that was a long time ago (available domain names). Some lists that only the oldtimers remember about:

• the nightly dump from Sharon
• the lists from Exody

What was the question again ? Would I pay ? Seriously I dunno, but I know that some domainers are doing lots of research. I am building my own lists too. That's how I am still finding good names that slip through the cracks. So they have to exist, or I am doing something wrong.
In fact, the concept has been tried before. Many times. In general those lists don't last long, due to loss of interest from the subscribers or the producer.

You can also try a two-tier system: you send the lists to subscribers first and then you release them to the public after 2 days - so people can figure what they have been missing out on.

I was actually planning on posting the previous days lists. Good idea and I appreciate you sharing that with me.

$20 is not expensive enough, and will get you way to many subscribers on the list... although id assume thats the point .

To the people saying you wouldnt pay for such a list for the reason that many good ones will be gone or get to expensive... well, thats how it works, sometimes new stuff/methods/software/lists or whatever come up, and you will have to adjust to them, if now shane brings them, or someone else does dosnt matter, but to say you wouldnt pay just cause your domaining then gets harder... :/. Also not to mention, as ShaneC said... it would be impossible for ShaneB to cover it all, so there will still be gems left...

To the few of you who cant afford $20 per month and would rather put them somewhere else... if putting $20 on such a list is a problem for you, and you think they are better invested elsewhere, you should probably stop investing anyways, right now.

To the ones that just dont like the idea, thats cool, everyone can choose if or if they dont enter .

I surely would, and i would also do it if it was $50 or $100 per month, now if the lists sucks in my opinion id also be decently fast in canceling again. But $20 is really nothing for the said service. (think about it: sit there wait for the list, look at the list, grab what you want.)

Fair point. That's why I'm planning on doing a 1-week free trial. It'll allow people to get a feel for what I can produce.

 

[imadoer]

if i got a free trial and the results where good i would.. gotta see what im paying for theres a site that already does this called value drops but i dont think there pics are that good

 

[S-B]

if i got a free trial and the results where good i would.. gotta see what im paying for theres a site that already does this called value drops but i dont think there pics are that good

I'm fine tuning my process to ensure I deliver exceptional results. I'm just waiting on approval from dropping.com. Pending that the list should be ready to launch.

 

[biggie]

i voted no


imo...

 

[S-B]

i voted no


imo...

I already had you marked down as a no, Biggie.

 

[biggie]

I already had you marked down as a no, Biggie.

glad we feel'n each other

but for those who don't get it,

maybe you could explain to the viewing public, why i would not subscribe to a paid listing

 

[S-B]

glad we feel'n each other

but for those who don't get it,

maybe you could explain to the viewing public, why i would not subscribe to a paid listing

In my opinion, your disinterest for such a service stems from the deep rooted hate you have for those who present themselves as someone to be idolized. The disdain likely stems from the shows and blogs that position their owners and friends as industry front-runners only to offer "services" to newcomers. After watching these individuals take advantage, the disgust boiled to the surface.

Now, I'd like to address such concerns.

I agree with Biggie that no one should be idolized. I also agree that everyone in this industry is out for themselves. Anyone presenting themselves as the "helpful hand" is a liar. If YOU weren't profitable, there would be NO service.

I'm not doing this out of the goodness of my heart. I see an opportunity to increase my income from this newsletter. I'm out for me -- first and foremost. With that being said, I'm not a liar. I will deliver what I promised but the rest is up to you.

Close, Biggie?

 

[adrianbrand]

Good luck finding a good subscription at $20. If you find one, let me know.

I mean those $20 per month added over a period of a few months ... let's say 6. Equals $120.
+
The price difference between a normal domain/auction and a featured one (the one sent via the subscription - I'm sure their prices will rise because there will be more bidders). Let's say 20%. If a domain is worth $1000, it will sell for $1200. That's another $200.
= $320 more money to invest.

For a domain that's around $1000 that's 30%. My point is that people will prefer to invest that difference, instead of paying for a chance to get a domain at a higher price.

 

[S-B]

I mean those $20 per month added over a period of a few months ... let's say 6. Equals $120.
+
The price difference between a normal domain/auction and a featured one (the one sent via the subscription - I'm sure their prices will rise because there will be more bidders). Let's say 20%. If a domain is worth $1000, it will sell for $1200. That's another $200.
= $320 more money to invest.

For a domain that's around $1000 that's 30%. My point is that people will prefer to invest that difference, instead of paying for a chance to get a domain at a higher price.

I disagree but I understand your point.

 

[biggie]

Close, Biggie?

closer than close my brother

i'm sure you know, there is a lot of "shiz-zit" along this path

so be careful not to slip


imo....

 

[S-B]

closer than close my brother

i'm sure you know, there is a lot of "shiz-zit" along this path

so be careful not to slip


imo....

I got you, Biggie. I feel that I'm always upfront with my ventures. If I slip, come slap me.

 

[DomainMagnate]

I got you, Biggie. I feel that I'm always upfront with my ventures. If I slip, come slap me.

sign me up for that list too :D

 

[tha-she]

I mean those $20 per month added over a period of a few months ... let's say 6. Equals $120.
+
The price difference between a normal domain/auction and a featured one (the one sent via the subscription - I'm sure their prices will rise because there will be more bidders). Let's say 20%. If a domain is worth $1000, it will sell for $1200. That's another $200.
= $320 more money to invest.

For a domain that's around $1000 that's 30%. My point is that people will prefer to invest that difference, instead of paying for a chance to get a domain at a higher price.

Of course it ads up, and in this case to an amazing $120 over the course of 6 months, (lol).

Anyways, dont forget your paying for a service, the $20, you dont give them away, you are paying to get a list DAILY..... so by the time you spent $120, you should have gotten xx domains your happy with you would have never even seen otherwise...

Also, he pointed out 1 week to test, so if you dont like what you get, no need to pay even the hardcore sum of $20.... so if your in this for 6 months, and then decide its not worth it, and you didnt get domains or see domains you bid on and won you are mre then happy with, its no ones but your fault.

That being said, (your input makes no sense) thanks for it anyways.

 

[TERADOMAIN]

@Shane Bellone is straight to the point person. I never did any deal with him. But I talked to him 2-3 times. I also read his multiple response and post here on Namepros. Very professional, Detail oriented, Knows what he is talking about, Good awareness about the market for long term as well as current trend. I do appreciate those qualities in him. At least he knows what he is talking about.

I will surely try your subscription. I don't want to go into much detail what you will provide and what kind of category you are going to provide... bla bla bla.. etc.,

I know only one thing about you that you are good in what you do. So I will try your list for sure.

This is not blind trust. This is based on what I have observed your activity so far.

Hey if it works it works and if not then we will move in different direction, But I know it will work because of your hard work, good work ethics and dedication.

I am in.

Thanks

 

[S-B]

@Shane Bellone is straight to the point person. I never did any deal with him. But I talked to him 2-3 times. I also read his multiple response and post here on Namepros. Very professional, Detail oriented, Knows what he is talking about, Good awareness about the market for long term as well as current trend. I do appreciate those qualities in him. At least he knows what he is talking about.

I will surely try your subscription. I don't want to go into much detail what you will provide and what kind of category you are going to provide... bla bla bla.. etc.,

I know only one thing about you that you are good in what you do. So I will try your list for sure.

This is not blind trust. This is based on what I have observed your activity so far.

Hey if it works it works and if not then we will move in different direction, But I know it will work because of your hard work, good work ethics and dedication.

I am in.

Thanks

Thank you for your kind words.

 

[Azwan Asban]

My vote is no.