opinion Should Domainers Be Developers?

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This argument comes up every now and then and it drives me a little crazy. Someone posts about building out one of their domains and the gatekeepers show up: "Real domainers don't develop, they invest." As if the two things can't coexist.

I don't get this mentality at all. When I'm looking at a domain to buy, I'm already thinking about what could go there. What kind of site makes sense? Who's the audience? How would it make money? That's literally part of my decision process on whether to pull the trigger on a purchase. If I can't see a viable end user business, something I would develop or be interested in partnering in, I probably shouldn't be buying it anyway.

The anti-development crowd acts like building a site somehow makes you less of a domainer. Like you've betrayed the cause or something. It's weird tribal stuff that doesn't make sense when you actually think about it.

Their main argument is focus. Stick to domains, let end users handle the development. And sure, there's logic there if you're doing high-volume flipping. Buy a hundred domains, park them, field offers, sell when the price is right. It's clean. It's simple. No complications. Good for you.

But the domain market in 2025 isn't the wild west anymore. All the obvious stuff is registered. You're competing with AI-generated domains, NFT domains, and a million other alternatives. Standing out requires more than a parked page and a BIN price.

I've got domains that sat dead for three, four, 10 years. Nothing but junk offers from people trying to steal them for $200. Then I'd build something simple - doesn't even have to be fancy, just a basic site showing the use case - and suddenly I'm getting real inquiries or making a few bucks on affiliate sales. They get offers because I removed the guesswork. I showed them what's possible instead of making them use their imagination.

Here's what nobody talks about: development gives you leverage. A domain doesn't sell for what you want? Fine. Build it into an affiliate site or lead gen business. Now it's covering its own renewal and maybe throwing off a few bucks a month. You're not stuck fire-selling it when you need to trim the portfolio.

Some of my best exits came from developed domains. Not because the buyer wanted my exact site, but because I had traffic data and revenue numbers. That changes the entire conversation. You're not selling a speculative asset anymore - you're selling a business with metrics. That doesn't have to be approach, but it is an option.

I hand registered CoolBars.com many years ago. I had a vision of developing it. I never popped up the actual business model I wanted, but tried a few different low effort approaches. At one point, I had a handful of articles about the nightclub industry and signed up to be an affiliate of a bar supply company with a 25% commission. That lasted a few years and paid for a lifetime of renewals for the name.

The "stay in your lane" people also ignore that the lanes don't really exist anymore. SaaS companies need domains. App developers need domains. E-commerce stores need domains. We're all playing in the same space. Why would I handicap myself by refusing to learn what these buyers actually need?

And honestly? Pure domain flipping gets boring sometimes. Always challenging but sometimes boring. I didn't get into this business to be a digital warehouse manager. Each domain is a possibility, a what-if. Exploring that through actual development is fun. It scratches a creative itch that looking at sale comparables never will. It makes me an active participant.

The skills overlap anyway. If you're good at domains, you already understand keywords, search intent, market demand. That's half of what you need to build something successful. Learning basic WordPress or how to commission decent content isn't rocket science. These are natural extensions of what we already do.

I'm not saying everyone should become a developer. If you hate building sites, don't build sites. But let's stop pretending development is somehow beneath domainers or outside our scope. It's a tool. Use it when it makes sense.

The focus argument isn't completely wrong - you can spread yourself thin. Trying to actively develop 50 sites while managing a portfolio of thousands? Yeah, that's not going to work. But that's true of anything. The answer is being strategic, not avoiding development entirely.

Maybe you develop your five best domains. Maybe you focus on one niche where you actually know something. Maybe you partner with someone who handles the technical stuff. There are ways to do this without abandoning domain investing.

I also think the industry needs domainers who develop. We bring a different angle than typical startups. We're not swinging for billion-dollar exits. We're building sustainable businesses that start generating revenue fairly quickly. We understand the domain itself has value as an asset, not just as a URL for our app.

Plus, when you develop sites, you learn what end users actually want. Which features matter, which don't. What converts, what bounces. This intelligence feeds back into your acquisition strategy. You start seeing opportunities others miss because you're thinking in complete business models, not just keywords.

Some of my domains that I thought would be instant hits went nowhere. By some I mean many. Others I bought on a whim turned into solid little businesses. You don't really know until you try. And trying means building something, even if it's basic.

The truth is, a developed domain with even modest traffic is easier to sell than an undeveloped one. Period. Buyers can see the potential realized instead of imagining it. That's valuable, even if you're not planning to run the business long-term.

Should domainers be developers? I think domainers should do whatever makes sense for their portfolio and skills. For me, that includes development. For someone else, maybe not. But this idea that the two are mutually exclusive or that development somehow makes you "not a real domainer" is ridiculous.

Try developing one domain. See what happens. If you hate it, you learned something and you've got better screenshots for your listing. If you like it, you just opened up a whole new dimension to your business.

Either way, let's retire this gatekeeping nonsense about what domainers should or shouldn't do. Do what you want. Do what you like. Do what works for you.
 
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AfternicAfternic
Hi

should developers be domainers,

and if they were, then would "domaining" even be?

imo...
Mike Carson and Dharmesh are the closest examples you'll get to developers-as-domainers.
 
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Dharmesh actually seems to buy most of his domains for development.
 
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I had offers on domains which i plan to develop, in some part we are developers but not as a full time job. Most domainers are smart people and they have skills of each bit including development. imo
 
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I'm seeing a lot of back and forth in this thread about how domain investors not only shouldn't develop, but that they are no longer domain investors if they did develop, which, in my opinion is simply not true.

I'm a domain investor and an end user. I've developed domains off and on since 2004 into revenue streams, micro-businesses, splash pages, landing pages, etc... (My primary end-user business model (Currently an LLC) has been an online developed service for 2+ decades) Even though some of my business models change over the years, it doesn't make me any less of a domain investor than anyone else.

For perspective, here's how I like to break it down:
  • Reseller: This is a domain investor with no intention of developing. They generally park or use a landing page of their own to resell a blank canvased domain for a profit, either to other resellers, hobbyists, or end-users. These investors hand register, pay wholesale, or aftermarket pricing to lower the risk and increase profit potential. (Smallest budget)
  • Hobbyist: This is a domain investor with intent to develop an asset themselves to increase value and provide a means for a domain to pay it's own renewals each year, eliminating renewal overhead expenses. This type of investor tests different markets with developments until they find a sweet spot, in which they expand development, optimize monetization efforts in a few different verticals, resell domains or domains + websites with verifiable traffic/revenue/etc., monitors the aftermarket, and pushes forward into entrepreneurship. (Mid-Budget)
  • End-user: Contrary to popular belief, this is also a domain investor (They can be independents, partners, entrepreneurs, small businesses, large corporations, non-profits, or even government agencies). They invest in a domain name asset to develop for the purpose of generating revenue or delivering an important message to an online audience/customer base. Every hour and penny they put into that domain names development is still an investment into their digital asset (property), increasing the value, and potential. Most end-users have no intention of reselling a domain asset, however, it does still happen as part of company takeovers and acquisitions. (Biggest Budget)
All three categories above are still domain investors, each with a different budget, business model initiative, and end game goal.

I still stand by my previous comment and assessment that while a domain investor doesn't need to develop, understanding the core elements of business development and how an end-user can generate revenue from a domain name you are considering investing into (Or already own) can help assist with evaluating and pricing domains more effectively.

There's nothing wrong with taking a domain sitting in your portfolio collecting dust and developing into something to try and generate revenue while it sits. (That doesn't make you less of a domain investor, but it does make you more of a domain investing entrepreneur.)

Could it deflect a few potential buyers thinking the domain may not be for sale? sure, but most the buyers being deflected have smaller budgets or going to kick your tires. A serious buyer, will still contact the owner of a developed business to make a genuine, higher budget offer.

We see acquisitions like that all the time in this industry, where an established business buys a domain and business model + branding of a smaller business, then strips all the branding and redevelops the domain into something else.

In short, I think it's more probable that a developed domain scares away tire kickers and smaller budgets, but has no effect on start-ups and existing corporate with the capital to build or expand a brand overnight. (This is where your domain really needs to be higher quality to attract those types of bigger budget buyers)

I feel like this industry should have more open minded entrepreneurs than it does. (E.g. those that invest in domains for resale and for development, both still technically being domain investors, just with different overhead costs and end game goals)

To each their own.

What works for one may not work for another and vice versa,

What ever everyone decides to do and how they invest into domains names, I wish them the best of luck. We all do it differently. :)
 
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Personally, my thoughts are that while a domain investor doesnt not need to be a developer to be successful, it's definitely helpful if one understands how a potential end user/start up will use/develop a domain asset they invested into for the purpose of reselling.

With that in mind, understanding the fundamentals of development and monetization, could help a domain investor make a more educated decision when it comes to establishing the potential value of a domain, possibly leveraging the 25% rule against a 12-month revenue projection.

To each their own though. We all do it differently. ;)
Should a fabrics merchant be a taylor too?
Should a car dealer be a mechanic too?
Should an art dealer be a painter/sculptor too?

@Sully we buy and sell pieces of land in the internet universe but we are not obliged to be builders too IMHO.

We just should be good to do whatever we aim to do with our domains, without causing any harm to anyone else, that's it.
 
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Should a fabrics merchant be a taylor too?
Should a car dealer be a mechanic too?
Should an art dealer be a painter/sculptor too?

@Sully we buy and sell pieces of land in the internet universe but we are not obliged to be builders too IMHO.

We just should be good to do whatever we aim to do with our domains, without causing any harm to anyone else, that's it.
Those comparisons are bit further left field, but in this area, large and small car dealers do have mechanic shops, fabric merchants have a taylor/seamstress at their location, and art dealers do have a contact file of painters and sculptors for on-call needs.

It's just good business practices (Now days) to also have verticals that fit the demand of consumers needs.
  • Should a domain investor develop one of their fabrics domains to generate revenue? = Sure, why not?
  • Should a car dealer invest into a domain and then develop it to sell more cars? = Of course!
But again, it's not one size fits all. A domain investor should do what they are comfortable doing. if they don't have the skill sets to expand into entrepreneurialism, they can either hire someone, set aside time to learn a new skill, or pass and just keep doing what they are doing.

Nobody is saying a domain investor has to develop, but it's definitely an option that could help them scale their business in a direction to explore new opportunities with potential revenue streams to stack with their existing model.

Again, to each their own. everyone does it different. :)
 
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Those comparisons are bit further left field, but in this area, large and small car dealers do have mechanic shops, fabric merchants have a taylor/seamstress at their location, and art dealers do have a contact file of painters and sculptors for on-call needs.

It's just good business practices (Now days) to also have verticals that fit the demand of consumers needs.
  • Should a domain investor develop one of their fabrics domains to generate revenue? = Sure, why not?
  • Should a car dealer invest into a domain and then develop it to sell more cars? = Of course!
But again, it's not one size fits all. A domain investor should do what they are comfortable doing. if they don't have the skill sets to expand into entrepreneurialism, they can either hire someone, set aside time to learn a new skill, or pass and just keep doing what they are doing.

Nobody is saying a domain investor has to develop, but it's definitely an option that could help them scale their business in a direction to explore new opportunities with potential revenue streams to stack with their existing model.

Again, to each their own. everyone does it different. :)
Eric just to clarify:
I'm totally agreeing with your though and maybe I've not expressed properly my thoughts with my rusty [ but genuine ] English.

My point is simply:
We are not OBLIGED to be developers too:

It's a plus point for everyone it's good to do it by themself and for the other ones, a you rightfully said, thousand of folks can do the job for them.
 
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Some of us started as developers and one big domain sale slowly turned us into domainers.
 
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You can develop when you have few domains or go template. But after 1k in portfolio even hard to choose what to develop.
 
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Some of us started as developers and one big domain sale slowly turned us into domainers.
To elaborate I'll quote myself. :ROFL:

I started building websites probably 2000-2003ish. So most of my internet income has come from website development mainly for myself and friends over paid gigs in order to create multiple levels of affiliate marketing income. Back then 20+ years was the same as domain names less competition so it much easier to generate multiple niche affiliate income streams on auto pilot while you were sleeping, on vacation, at work, etc... Like everything was easier so it kinda translates to domain parking, domain sales from 10+ years ago as I made quite a bit from domain parking with insane click amounts back then as well. Sounds like people think domain parking died last few months due to some changes but domain parking died long time ago. Some of the click amounts I received back then would make a 2025 domain parker fall out of their chair. I had all the best parking accounts even though I didn't even consider myself a 100% domain parking guy and know some others here were doing way more than me but I still did pretty good. Plain jane basic pages produced some awesome income Domain Sponsor etc... then Parked and some others came around and everyone asked Donny for Images to make the pages pretty but none of that mattered plain jane basic pages produced the income.

Due to owning a good handful of domains in line for my next developments I received an offer for 1kish I believe on a domain I had just hand registered. I was use to developing affiliate sites, seo, and then logging in and seeing hundreds of dollars a day generate from a little niche site with not much traffic at all because seo was so strong and I would rule googles front page for free but somebody offering 1k+ just to flip a domain I was intrigued. Sold the domain and decided to toss some more income at some good .coms and toss em in the vault which is the reason I have quite a few good aged 10-20+ year old .com domains today.

So over the decades as competition has increased on the affiliate marketing end and domain parking income has basically evaporated I have definitely shifted to more domains for sale and less developed affiliate income projects. I'll still develop if I have the right domain and believe I can generate a good return but my projects today are more like a good handful over more than I can keep track of like the old days.

I think if you have an interest in a topic and think you have basic developing skills give developing a shot and see how it goes as then it's not really work and you might generate a little income to boost. If you have zero interest in the topic or zero developing skills then developing just for the sake of developing usually you'll lose interest especially if the income doesn't come.
 
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Domainers are actually the Lead Developers turning a vast empty numerical cyberspace into addressable namespaces. The act of buying a domain, in itself, is part and parcel in the web developers' construct.

Adding a webpage further develops the domain, whether 'you' built it or use platform template webpages. A webpage is a webpage.

The notion that domainers with a hundred or more parked / landing pages, with multiples - on multiple platforms, is NOT a developer because platforms built & host the pages, while a domainer who put up a handful of web pages on one host is a 'developer' is just silly.

After all, ~70 percent of the Billion+ websites online are platform parked / landing pages. If that is not a 'development' I don't know what is.

Domainers are the developers of the "Undeveloped Web".

A domainer, by definition, is a developer. It registers with the name.
 
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if you can find a safe & robust way of making developed sites kinda "self-maintaining" that would be awesome. otherwise you will have to continously put in a great deal of time & effort, and that could cost you much more than bucks. life is short.
 
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I develop.

To understand the entire process from registration to website development & everything in between & beyond is a valuable asset & tool in understanding & educating buyers/clients.

Cheers
Corey
 
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Some are developers but some domainers are professional gamblers. :glasses:
 
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digital warehouse manager

hmmmm

I like it, vague and trendy at the same time.
Maybe I should get some business cards with Digital Warehouse Manager
 
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You have to do that to fully understand the potential of a domain.

Not to mention, that you might also get some recurring revenue until you sell that domain.
 
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Some are developers but some domainers are professional gamblers. :glasses:
Maybe it works for some people, but you need time to understand the market, and after that you can properly value your domains.
 
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Eric just to clarify:
I'm totally agreeing with your though and maybe I've not expressed properly my thoughts with my rusty [ but genuine ] English.

My point is simply:
We are not OBLIGED to be developers too:

It's a plus point for everyone it's good to do it by themself and for the other ones, a you rightfully said, thousand of folks can do the job for them.
Honestly speaking a web developer, content creator, and proof editor can never be a successful domainer. Very difficult to distribute and spare quality time for all such assignments. Saying this from own experience.
 
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