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Just curious where most people get sales for their domains?

At any given time, I may have 900 or more domains regged, and 98% I have parked with Voodoo.
98% of them are listed for sale on Godaddy, Sedo,and Flippa,with only about 10% listed at Afternic.

To date, I have had zero offers & zero sales via Flippa, 2 offers & zero sales via Sedo, Zero offers & zero salesvia Afternic, and a fair amount of offers and a few sales via Godaddy.

The rest of my offers,and sales have been via Voodoo parking.

I was curious what works best for everybody else, and what is most successful
 
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I made/use my own: for example my domain CosmicCalendar.com .
It's responsive as well so it looks good not only on desktops and laptops but also on mobile devices such as iphones and ipads.

Nice! How did you set up paypal installment plan and leasing plan there?
 
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There are various scripts out there, wordpress plugins etc... if you wish to get your own server, have stats on your own server, ability to add ads, links to your network of sites etc... For someone that just wants to get something up quick with minimal effort I'd probably take a look at...

http://blog.bodis.com/improved-domain-sale-landing-pages/
http://salepage-inquiry.com/
http://salepage-escrow.com/
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For my purpose, I like the 3rd one, escrow. Does this come from Escrow.com? Do I have to sell through Escrow.com or can I still sell through PayPal?
 
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So let's say you have 800 domains however, it looks like you would need to have a specific landing page designed for each domain, no?
Your page says 'cosmic calendar' is for sale. What if you had 800 others?

I guess you could have all of your domains point to one single sale page, that reads "the domain you are looking for is for sale"? And then put a spot for contact info and inquiry

I have a thousand of names pointed to 1 landing page, because I don't have time to make every single page. eg http://www.billionaire.property/#!contact/c1r97
I put up '
Domain name you type-in is for sale/auction! '
The advantage is that it becomes a main marketing sales page and you can add other featured listing info such as current auction or special deals on some domain names that you want to sell quickly.
 
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@Raymond C Nice looking landing page you have there friend.

Just to add a little more to the landing page conversation, own landing/sales pages gives freedom and added advantage of using them in any way we want---with anything we want on them. In short, we can design and format the way we like.

That is why I also use my own customized landing pages and I highly recommend domainers to learn basic HTML and CSS as it will help them in the long run, not only with their landing pages, but you can develop simple websites as well for your developable domains.
Totally agree.
 
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For my purpose, I like the 3rd one, escrow. Does this come from Escrow.com? Do I have to sell through Escrow.com or can I still sell through PayPal?

Comes from Bodis.com. Anyone can integrate Escrow.com into their systems via affiliate links, buy now buttons etc... Point of the Escrow one http://salepage-escrow.com/ is to create confidence that a buyer won't get scammed and if your pricing your domains makes sense to route through Escrow.com. If your not gonna use Escrow.com and don't wanna price your domains then I'd probably just use the standard one http://salepage-inquiry.com/ and route it to PayPal. I don't personally use these I use my own pages so you'd have to sign up at Bodis to check them out. I just like the look of them as similar to mine in the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) fashion as generally too fancy parking pages or sales pages just distracts people from the objective which is a paid click or a domain sale.
 
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Nice! How did you set up paypal installment plan and leasing plan there?
You have an option in Paypal for leasing plans (in Paypal it's called "subscriptions/recurrent payments" I think) and payment plans (payment plans in Paypal are basically the same as leasing plans but with an end date ;) ). If you create a website you can easily create the html code in Paypal and then copy/paste it to your site.

In my case the code is already on my template so I don't need to create anything in Paypal. I basically divided my landingpages into price categories. For example for domains that I sell for $995 the buyer can also opt for a fixed lease price of $19.95/month instead or a payment plan of $97/month (12 installments of $97).
With a domain that I sell for example for $2,388 USD the buyer can also opt for a fixed lease price of $49/month instead or a payment plan of $229/month (12 installments of $229). And so on..

Anyways you get the picture :).
 
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@Bram C. , Thank you.

But if you are using the same html for paypal with the same price of $995, for example, how does paypal distinguish between two purchases?
 
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@Bram C. , Thank you.

But if you are using the same html for paypal with the same price of $995, for example, how does paypal distinguish between two purchases?
Just by changing some variables on the html code.
See example in the code below (you just need to change the name of the domain and the price in this example):
Code:
  <form id="payment_form_id" name="payment_form" action="https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr" method="post">
   <input type="hidden" name="cmd" value="_xclick">
   <input type="hidden" name="business" value="[email protected]">
   <input type="hidden" name="amount" value="995">
   <input type="hidden" name="quantity" value="1">
   <input type="hidden" name="page_style" value="primary">
   <input type="hidden" name="cs" value="0">
   <input type="hidden" name="no_note" value="1">
   <input type="hidden" name="no_shipping" value="1">
   <input type="hidden" name="item_name" value="Purchase of CosmicCalendar.com">
   <input type="hidden" name="return" value="http://confirmed-payments.almightydomains.com/index.html">
   <input type="hidden" name="rm" value="2">
   <input type="hidden" name="cbt" value="Return to CosmicCalendar.com">
   <input type="hidden" name="cancel_return" value="http://CosmicCalendar.com">
   <input type="submit" class="btn btn-lg btn-outline" name="submit" value="BUY IT NOW!">
  </form>
 
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To answer your original question 'where do you get most of your sales':
By far the most sales in my domaining history have been through emailing potential buyers. I'll add the caveat that we are of course talking about sales of substance; if it's just 'technically the most domain sales', I could say here on the forum. But my sales here have been mostly to 'dump' domains for a quick reseller price just because I don't want them in my folio anymore. But as far as the most sales of larger substance, it is through cold-emailing buyers.

The second largest number of my sales has been through people contacting me via my landing pages.

The third largest has been through people offering via Sedo. Then Afternic brings up the butt-end with my lowest number of sales.

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As others here have mentioned, whichever route you go, the most important thing is to have quality domains. Whether you email buyers or have a landing page or just list it for sale at a marketplace, none of that will get you a sale if you have the worst quality names that really don't help anyone with their business or online purpose. If they're low quality names but still have use, then you'll have very few inquiries (or none), you'll have to ask low prices, and you'll get very few sales. The higher the quality (the word 'quality' of course can spark an endless debate, but skip that right now), then the more inquiries you'll get, the more potential-buyers will respond to your emails, the higher price you can ask, and the more sales you'll get. - Treat those previous statements as a loose generalization, not a rule or guarantee :)

As for landing pages, I've tried a few different platforms that others above have mentioned, with various results. In the end I finally opted out of all of them and I make my own. I keep them simple, usually just a few words about the domain and what it can be used for - potential buyers already know their use, but it helps to throw a few more suggestions to strengthen their ideas - all the way up to a more detailed lander with more info. For an example of each: you can have a quick boo at Regiving (dot com), where I have just a few words. Then you can have a look at OkanaganLake (dot com), which I've put a more substantial lander on, to spell things out for any potential buyers in this area (Okanagan Lake is the most popular tourist-destination lake in British Columbia). But to build your own landers you need to figure it out yourself or hire someone to build them for you. I build my own, and use Photoshop to make quick logos and headers etc. A quick lander I can build complete in about ten minutes or less. I might work an hour or two for a more involved landing page. If you have hundreds of domains you probably won't want to go this route from scratch. Whenever I get a new domain or a few, I just do the landers right away, so the chore gets done in small bite-sized pieces.

As for emailing potential buyers, remember: only do it if you have genuine quality domains that you know - in your most sober and realistic and decent frame of mind - would help their online appearance and success. You know, don't email a stucco company for your 'BestStucco-ShopForQuality-Deals365 (dot info)' domain name because you have decided those are such fantastic keywords (plus it's got the '365' on there!!!) that they can really help increase the business of any stucco company!!!!! Please remember that I said 'in your most sober, realistic, decent frame of mind'. If you're emailing to sell Stucco (dot com), or StuccoSupplier (dot com), then yes technically you're still spamming, but you're spamming but with a quality domain that your potential buyer might actually appreciate and thank you for contacting them for. If you're emailing to sell the dot info I mentioned above, with the dashes and the 365... well, you haven't got a clue and you're the dictionary definition of spammer and no buyer ever wants to receive that email from you.

I would guess that the largest percentage of domain sellers don't even email potential buyers for their domains. They think 'if someone really wants this domain, they'll contact me'. But that is very very rarely the case. This is the usual case: most potential buyers of your domain actually never think of your domain. They don't think of domains, period, they don't think about yours, they don't know yours is available to buy, they don't know how to go about buying it or what they should pay. There, that sentence describes the overwhelming majority of the potential buyers for your domains. Keep in mind what the buyer of Chocolate (dot com) said: after he bought the domain (for some large undisclosed number), it made the news... and immediately, two large chocolate manufacturers contacted him and offered huge sums to buy the domain from him. - See, even the largest companies get settled into their usual operating mode, with their usual domain and website that they don't even think about, and then one day you come along with your (hopefully premium, helpful) domain, and remind them what's out there.

Basically, you nudge it into their consciousness. I email for my own domains, and I email as a broker for premiums owned by others. I have never, ever contacted any buyer who said "Oh, I've been thinking about that domain, looking for one like that." Emailing them is what nudges them to consciously think about your domain, whether it is premium or just 'good'. You know, if you own SoundCompany (dot com) (which I do), am I just gonna let it sit around for sale while all those dozens of businesses who have 'sound company' right in their domain name just carry on bizness without ever thinking about my domain... or am I gonna email them and nudge it into their thoughts? I emailed, got offers, but haven't got the offer that will make me sell it yet. Still, if I hadn't emailed... no one's contacted me out of the blue for that domain. Sometimes you gotta take it to the buyers, to increase the number of people who actually give your domain a thought.

There are a lot of different methods and tactics. Above is my own experience and .02 cents :)
 
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To answer your original question 'where do you get most of your sales':
By far the most sales in my domaining history have been through emailing potential buyers. I'll add the caveat that we are of course talking about sales of substance; if it's just 'technically the most domain sales', I could say here on the forum. But my sales here have been mostly to 'dump' domains for a quick reseller price just because I don't want them in my folio anymore. But as far as the most sales of larger substance, it is through cold-emailing buyers.

The second largest number of my sales has been through people contacting me via my landing pages.

The third largest has been through people offering via Sedo. Then Afternic brings up the butt-end with my lowest number of sales.

Notes:
As others here have mentioned, whichever route you go, the most important thing is to have quality domains. Whether you email buyers or have a landing page or just list it for sale at a marketplace, none of that will get you a sale if you have the worst quality names that really don't help anyone with their business or online purpose. If they're low quality names but still have use, then you'll have very few inquiries (or none), you'll have to ask low prices, and you'll get very few sales. The higher the quality (the word 'quality' of course can spark an endless debate, but skip that right now), then the more inquiries you'll get, the more potential-buyers will respond to your emails, the higher price you can ask, and the more sales you'll get. - Treat those previous statements as a loose generalization, not a rule or guarantee :)

As for landing pages, I've tried a few different platforms that others above have mentioned, with various results. In the end I finally opted out of all of them and I make my own. I keep them simple, usually just a few words about the domain and what it can be used for - potential buyers already know their use, but it helps to throw a few more suggestions to strengthen their ideas - all the way up to a more detailed lander with more info. For an example of each: you can have a quick boo at Regiving (dot com), where I have just a few words. Then you can have a look at OkanaganLake (dot com), which I've put a more substantial lander on, to spell things out for any potential buyers in this area (Okanagan Lake is the most popular tourist-destination lake in British Columbia). But to build your own landers you need to figure it out yourself or hire someone to build them for you. I build my own, and use Photoshop to make quick logos and headers etc. A quick lander I can build complete in about ten minutes or less. I might work an hour or two for a more involved landing page. If you have hundreds of domains you probably won't want to go this route from scratch. Whenever I get a new domain or a few, I just do the landers right away, so the chore gets done in small bite-sized pieces.

As for emailing potential buyers, remember: only do it if you have genuine quality domains that you know - in your most sober and realistic and decent frame of mind - would help their online appearance and success. You know, don't email a stucco company for your 'BestStucco-ShopForQuality-Deals365 (dot info)' domain name because you have decided those are such fantastic keywords (plus it's got the '365' on there!!!) that they can really help increase the business of any stucco company!!!!! Please remember that I said 'in your most sober, realistic, decent frame of mind'. If you're emailing to sell Stucco (dot com), or StuccoSupplier (dot com), then yes technically you're still spamming, but you're spamming but with a quality domain that your potential buyer might actually appreciate and thank you for contacting them for. If you're emailing to sell the dot info I mentioned above, with the dashes and the 365... well, you haven't got a clue and you're the dictionary definition of spammer and no buyer ever wants to receive that email from you.

I would guess that the largest percentage of domain sellers don't even email potential buyers for their domains. They think 'if someone really wants this domain, they'll contact me'. But that is very very rarely the case. This is the usual case: most potential buyers of your domain actually never think of your domain. They don't think of domains, period, they don't think about yours, they don't know yours is available to buy, they don't know how to go about buying it or what they should pay. There, that sentence describes the overwhelming majority of the potential buyers for your domains. Keep in mind what the buyer of Chocolate (dot com) said: after he bought the domain (for some large undisclosed number), it made the news... and immediately, two large chocolate manufacturers contacted him and offered huge sums to buy the domain from him. - See, even the largest companies get settled into their usual operating mode, with their usual domain and website that they don't even think about, and then one day you come along with your (hopefully premium, helpful) domain, and remind them what's out there.

Basically, you nudge it into their consciousness. I email for my own domains, and I email as a broker for premiums owned by others. I have never, ever contacted any buyer who said "Oh, I've been thinking about that domain, looking for one like that." Emailing them is what nudges them to consciously think about your domain, whether it is premium or just 'good'. You know, if you own SoundCompany (dot com) (which I do), am I just gonna let it sit around for sale while all those dozens of businesses who have 'sound company' right in their domain name just carry on bizness without ever thinking about my domain... or am I gonna email them and nudge it into their thoughts? I emailed, got offers, but haven't got the offer that will make me sell it yet. Still, if I hadn't emailed... no one's contacted me out of the blue for that domain. Sometimes you gotta take it to the buyers, to increase the number of people who actually give your domain a thought.

There are a lot of different methods and tactics. Above is my own experience and .02 cents :)


Very, very well said !
 
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Comes from Bodis.com. Anyone can integrate Escrow.com into their systems via affiliate links, buy now buttons etc... Point of the Escrow one http://salepage-escrow.com/ is to create confidence that a buyer won't get scammed and if your pricing your domains makes sense to route through Escrow.com. If your not gonna use Escrow.com and don't wanna price your domains then I'd probably just use the standard one http://salepage-inquiry.com/ and route it to PayPal. I don't personally use these I use my own pages so you'd have to sign up at Bodis to check them out. I just like the look of them as similar to mine in the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) fashion as generally too fancy parking pages or sales pages just distracts people from the objective which is a paid click or a domain sale.
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My domains are more leading to Branded. I will never get any parking revenue. Is it a waste of time to set them up at Bodis? I never looked at Ebay to sell. Anything I should know?

Thanks,
Serry
 
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I create my own landing page for my domains.
E.G. http://www.vod.news/
From here I receive most offers/inquiries.
Besides, I do list my domains on Sedo, and Flippa, but not because I wish to sell through those platforms.
because it's free, and can only give my domains more exposure.
After last sale, I know I'll sell only using Escrow.com . Smooth transaction, secure, fantastic support staff (if needed).

Now, since I have neerly 400 domain names, I am using some code to make a single index file serve multiple domains, and only changes the relevant title, header, etc... That way, I can make changes only one file, and not 400...

If you ask why am I using that Email there, and not a form, that's because I had a form there untill last week, but I've received many spam Emails, even though there was a security check, which means, those were not robots.

:)
 
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Outbound emails
Sedo
Inbound emails
Godaddy
Forums
 
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pretty much exactly what David said
  • put landing pages for all your names (bulk park them to save time), most of my inquiries / sales come from these, efty.com, domainnamesales.com, undeveloped.com
  • Godaddy premium listings with "buy now" or regular auctions with buy now (offer /counter offer never really worked well for me. If I value the name very highly, then I'll put offer/ counter offer)
  • Outbound if it's an "outboundable" name, brandables are not always the easiest to outbound (unless they are keyword brandables). But if you picked your brandables well, they will usually come to you.
  • Sedo, I get some offers, but yet to finalize a very decent one
 
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pretty much exactly what David said
  • put landing pages for all your names (bulk park them to save time), most of my inquiries / sales come from these, efty.com, domainnamesales.com, undeveloped.com
  • Godaddy premium listings with "buy now" or regular auctions with buy now (offer /counter offer never really worked well for me. If I value the name very highly, then I'll put offer/ counter offer)
  • Outbound if it's an "outboundable" name, brandables are not always the easiest to outbound (unless they are keyword brandables). But if you picked your brandables well, they will usually come to you.
  • Sedo, I get some offers, but yet to finalize a very decent one
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Has anyone used NP auctions yet? Does it have to be exclusive or can I still keep my auctions on GD?
 
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if by NP you're referring to Namepros, for sure I've used quite a few times.. but in general terms you're selling to re-sellers on namepros.. you very rarely would get end-user prices. but for quick flips, not huge margins it's a great place
 
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if by NP you're referring to Namepros, for sure I've used quite a few times.. but in general terms you're selling to re-sellers on namepros.. you very rarely would get end-user prices. but for quick flips, not huge margins it's a great place
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LOL! Does it have to be exclusive or can I still keep my auctions on GD?
 
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im not 100% sure if this is what you mean, but if you're running an auction for a specific name, if you get a first bid here on namepros, you have to remove it from godaddy.. or else obviously who would be the winner if you have 2 winning bids?
 
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1. Sedo
2. eBay
3. Bodis
4. Forums
5. GoDaddy
6. Flippa
 
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I am a reseller I do lots of wholesale and brokerage I sell almost everything by sourcing private buyers...
 
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only do it if you have genuine quality domains that you know - in your most sober and realistic and decent frame of mind - would help their online appearance and success.

Excellent advice!!
 
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I like Voodoo and Efty for parking, going to try DNS as well. The new bodis lander looks good. I think parking companies are starting to get it with the updated templates. More options the better.

It really doesn't matter where you list them unless you're into quick flips, because as said before, a serious end user with find you and buy no matter what marketplace you have it on.
 
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I think most people want the sale of their domain to be as quick as possible, that does not cost them to list their domains for sale, hence why were all here on 'namepros'.

Furthermore it depends on the price range your selling your domains in, if your selling for under $250, there's no need for an escrow unless your a bit paranoid about the sales so id suggest getting yourself an VPS, doesn't have to be an expensive one, you can pick one up for around $6 a month and setup your landing page with your Email Opt-in form this way your getting both buyers and building an list of leads, the person may be interested in more of your domains, and if they are not interested they can just unsubscribe from your list. ( If you don't or cant afford Email marketing for your landing page lead captures, use 'Mautic' their free)
 
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One more strategy I'm gonna start pushing, is domain names leasing.
Escrow.com has covered this section as well.
See https://www.escrow.com/services/domain-name-holding-escrow.aspx
During the first years of new TLDs/GTLDs, that can easily cover domains renual, while rasing the domain(s) value.
Sounds great for me!
Now, all I have to do, is find who will lease my domain(s). :)
 
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