When a brandable marketplace...

[tomcarl]

....lists their top brandables on another marketplace, you can pretty much say the ship has sailed.

 

[DomainVP]

I've sold 10 names in the last 3 weeks on BB. Tough to argue with those kinds of sales numbers...

I got a promo eMail the other day and it had a list of all new names, about 50 to 70, and at least 70% of those names were registered by you.

Plus you don't go through the regular accept, wait, logo process...

You have a biased acceptance channel, and you funnel a large volume of names in. So when you say you sold 10 names in 3 weeks, that means you must have hundreds listed with BB where they provide you with a discount and easy fast track domain acceptance.

Let's not pretend that your experience is the norm for most sellers.

 

[12345]

I actually do go through the normal regular, accept, wait times, and logo process. I don't get to skip to the head of the line. If I have 100 accepted names on BB and another person has 100 accepted names, the process time is identical.

 

[margotb]

Let me jump in here...

Domain listings on Flippa: We have a great relationship with Flippa, and have been talking to them for over 6 months about how we can work together to increase exposure of the BrandBucket inventory. We are currently running a test -- with only names owned by us since we do not yet have permission from other domain owners -- to see if there's the possibility of a fruitful partnership. We will know after the auctions have run their course. We aren't hiding anything, as the auctions are under our account and most actually mention BrandBucket in the title. Businesses grow through experimentation and innovation, not by maintaining the status quo.

The whole "sinking ship" thing: This is based on two things that I see: 1) The fact that we don't list the names that we sold, and 2) the musings of a competitor, which apparently seem to be rubbing off on a lot of people on this forum.

Our business has always been that the customer comes first, and we WILL NOT compromise the decision we've made to keep our transactions private and out of the search engines since this is a huge concern for many of our customers. What I can share is that we are on track to exceed the $1M mark that we did last year, while maintaining an average sale price of about $2500.

My personal belief is that a business should be built on a great idea, hard work, and positivity. Words live forever on the internet, including negative ones, which is why I try to stay out of forum pettiness. The bottom line is that people choose to do business with people, and I want to be the kind of person that customers and domainers want to do business with in the long run. That's especially important since I and the company I built are supporting many more people than just myself.

 

[margotb]

If my business suddenly went non-existent on Google and received what looks like a penalty...

We recently changed over our site to use all https://, and asked that our current non-https indexed pages be flushed. We are currently waiting for this change to propagate through the Google search index.

 

[JudgeMind]

highly unlikely to sell to end users on flippa.

 

[TravisS]

highly unlikely to sell to end users on flippa. Perhaps they are just testing the waters to see if there are any brokers out there.

She just got done saying why they are using Flippa...or did you just skip right down to the end?

 

[NameOffice.]

We recently changed over our site to use all https://, and asked that our current non-https indexed pages be flushed. We are currently waiting for this change to propagate through the Google search index.

I'm sorry, but I have to ask, why would you possibly need to change all of your pages to HTTPS? Of course for purchase pages and logins... but name listings?? And your home page?? Not only will changing your pages to HTTPS likely slow down your website some but you've sacrificed pretty much all of your rankings in Google (how, I don't know)... for something not even Pinterest or even the web-development forum behemoth Stackoverflow does. Just curious I guess.

 

[hookbox]

I actually do go through the normal regular, accept, wait times, and logo process. I don't get to skip to the head of the line. If I have 100 accepted names on BB and another person has 100 accepted names, the process time is identical.

What a load of BS. Can you please explain to us why in the world you would be a brand ambassador for Brand Bucket if there wasn't some kind of incentive. If you don't get some preferential treatment than why do it? It makes no sense but you have a public forum right here to enlighten us.

When any individual has over 600 names listed at Brand Bucket then you better be making sales or you should find another line of work. It is much easier when out of the first 10 pages on Brand Bucket your names are a huge bulk of the listings.

 

[hookbox]

I would just like to say Congrats to Brand Bucket for breaking the 6000 mark for domains listed there.

I remember when they would say that we like to keep our inventory small so a person could go through it while drinking a cup of coffee. You better have a cup the size of a pool because it's going to take a long long time now.

 

[JudgeMind]

thanks

 

[JudgeMind]

I would just like to say Congrats to Brand Bucket for breaking the 6000 mark for domains listed there.

I remember when they would say that we like to keep our inventory small so a person could go through it while drinking a cup of coffee. You better have a cup the size of a pool because it's going to take a long long time now.

I agree market is saturated there and like many marketplaces this limits the exposure of your listed names and the likely hood that a potential suiter for the name will find and choose one of the names you have listed.

 

[12345]

I never said that I don't receive benefits from being an ambassador. I did say that I don't get any preferential treatment when submitting & publishing domains. My commission is also the same as everyone else.

From the press release...

BrandBucket Ambassadors will be afforded special perks, resources and budgets to help them promote their portfolios and help represent BrandBucket's ever-growing collection of available business names for entrepreneurs, startups and new businesses.

My listings are a significant, but small portion of BB listings. Many, many more names are being sold on BB than my own. It's not like I went from 0-700 names overnight. I had like 30-40 for the first 3-4 months and like 7 or 8 of them sold. Then I stayed around 100-125 for the next 6-8 months, and a good clip continued to sell. I had excellent success on BB before a large number of names went live.

 

[12345]

It is much easier when out of the first 10 pages on Brand Bucket your names are a huge bulk of the listings.

The first 13 pages of BB are "Staff Picks" and there are only a handful of my names included.

 

[gina ferrano]

I'm a domainer, though would ultimately like to be the enduser someday (soon) I had only recently familiarized myself with brandable sites having been away from domaining for awhile. And I must say as one reads between the lines the vitriol and negativity directed towards BB seems rather petty at least from where I sit.

 

[tomcarl]

I haven't read any explanations or acknowledgement given to the original reason behind all of the debate...being the exclusivity policy and how it's fair to list select domains on other marketplaces while the rest can't be listed anywhere else.

And I guarantee anyone defending the positions of a company and blindly ignoring the case simply had a past sale there, good for you, but what about the thousands of others who paid fees and are binded to not promote their brand anywhere else.

Look. No one is out to bash a company for the sake of bashing.... but I'm noticing more and more on the forums that if you make a legitimate case or state your opinion on the business practices of a company in the industry, all of a sudden "You're Petty, You're A Basher, You're Negative" and people begin getting insulted and start personally bashing others, etc. Wtf?

If you can't openly discuss experiences and opinions about your dealings in the domain industry on a domain forum without it being considered "Petty" - Where the hell do you do it? Is your voice, opinions, and experiences supposed to be "shunned" because it's against popular opinion at the moment?

Acknowledge complaints and state legitimate rebuttals if you're capable of doing so and all is well. A professional company, a company someone *would want* to do business with and stay loyal to cares about the opinions of their customers, acknowledges their concerns and does their best to state their case, especially in such a competitive market.

It's simply my opinion as well as the opinion of others from what I've been reading that If select domains are listed elsewhere, unless the entire portfolio of that marketplace will also be distributed through these channels without additional fees, I don't see the benefits or fairness to those binded into exclusivity agreements.

The fact is, if you google search "Brandable domains" - there are now hundreds of marketplaces, ranking well, charging lesser or no initial fees and FVFs - Which in a way I'm glad has happened because we all see what happens when a single company monopolizes something...

I just had to comment at some of the responses I read....open discussion and opinions being shared about a marketplace should never be considered "Petty" or "Negative" and if you label people making legitimate complaints or giving their opinions on something, you give full rule over everyone and anyone for $$ and your personal benefit.

 

[TravisS]

I haven't read any explanations or acknowledgement given to the original reason behind all of the debate...being the exclusivity policy and how it's fair to list select domains on other marketplaces while the rest can't be listed anywhere else.

As far as I can tell, the domains that are currently listed by BB on Flippa are NOT listed at BrandBucket. They have been removed (unless you can show me otherwise). I'm going to assume you are free to do the same exact thing if brandbucket does not sell your brandable fast enough.

Source - someone who has never listed a domain at brandbucket or any other brandable marketplace

 

[NameOffice.]

I haven't read any explanations or acknowledgement given to the original reason behind all of the debate...being the exclusivity policy and how it's fair to list select domains on other marketplaces while the rest can't be listed anywhere else.

And I guarantee anyone defending the positions of a company and blindly ignoring the case simply had a past sale there, good for you, but what about the thousands of others who paid fees and are binded to not promote their brand anywhere else.

Look. No one is out to bash a company for the sake of bashing.... but I'm noticing more and more on the forums that if you make a legitimate case or state your opinion on the business practices of a company in the industry, all of a sudden "You're Petty, You're A Basher, You're Negative" and people begin getting insulted and start personally bashing others, etc. Wtf?

If you can't openly discuss experiences and opinions about your dealings in the domain industry on a domain forum without it being considered "Petty" - Where the hell do you do it? Is your voice, opinions, and experiences supposed to be "shunned" because it's against popular opinion at the moment?

Acknowledge complaints and state legitimate rebuttals if you're capable of doing so and all is well. A professional company, a company someone *would want* to do business with and stay loyal to cares about the opinions of their customers, acknowledges their concerns and does their best to state their case, especially in such a competitive market.

It's simply my opinion as well as the opinion of others from what I've been reading that If select domains are listed elsewhere, unless the entire portfolio of that marketplace will also be distributed through these channels without additional fees, I don't see the benefits or fairness to those binded into exclusivity agreements.

The fact is, if you google search "Brandable domains" - there are now hundreds of marketplaces, ranking well, charging lesser or no initial fees and FVFs - Which in a way I'm glad has happened because we all see what happens when a single company monopolizes something...

I just had to comment at some of the responses I read....open discussion and opinions being shared about a marketplace should never be considered "Petty" or "Negative" and if you label people making legitimate complaints or giving their opinions on something, you give full rule over everyone and anyone for $$ and your personal benefit.

Agreed. If you're spending the money to keep a site operational you have every right, or even duty, to state your objections and complaints.

 

[tomcarl]

As far as I can tell, the domains that are currently listed by BB on Flippa are NOT listed at BrandBucket. They have been removed (unless you can show me otherwise). I'm going to assume you are free to do the same exact thing if brandbucket does not sell your brandable fast enough.

Source - someone who has never listed a domain at brandbucket or any other brandable marketplace

Gotta love that "If you don't like it don't buy it" attitude, real professional.

 

[TravisS]

Gotta love that "If you don't like it don't buy it" attitude, real professional.

One thing w/ business. You can't make everyone happy.

 

[tomcarl]

One thing w/ business. You can't make everyone happy.

^ Imagine that mindset from a company monopolizing everything. I'm sure PayPal, eBay, etc would agree with that statement with their next fee increase.

I prefer "The customer is always right"