question What's up with all the bot traffic on Undeveloped?

[thevictor]

I recently started tracking my domain traffic via GA on Undeveloped and noticed that I am getting slammed every day with 300+ visits; all from bots.

Not sure if this has something to do with listing on Undeveloped or is that normal?

 

[xynames]

This issue has been kicked around for a while:

I think they decided to stop allocating resources to filtering bots right from when they introduced GA... Those unbelievable numbers didnt just start yesterday or the day before. People just noticed because it got worse. I had 50 views yesterday and none of those views was tracked by my GA .

Maybe undeveloped should shut down that aspect of there website or start allocating resources to take care of bots.... The latter will be great for them.

TONS of bots on my GA reports. I am not sure if these are counted by Undeveloped but man, there are so many bots scanning and messing up my stats.

Hi guys,

We're aware of this issue. It's caused by a change we implemented two days ago. We're looking for a solution as we speak.

We're getting targetted by some pesky bot networks that keep changing their strategy. Most of them if not all are automated. Sanitizing traffic is a constant cat and mouse game. If we want to win that game we have to assign a dedicated team to it. At the moment that's not plausible, especially because the (negative) impact of this on your sales is zero.

Also, we launched the option to add your own Google Analytics tracker for this reason so you can collect your own traffic stats and implement whatever filters you want.

Kind regards,

Reza

Unfortunately, because we use GA ourselves we can't add another tracker on those pages.

Google analytics does not clear bots . Yesterday for instance, I got 28 views on one of my names via Google analytics, I checked the name @Undeveloped there was no traffic at all for that particular name.

Supposedly, from what others have posted, almost all of their traffic (in their MarketPlace) is bots:

@Undeveloped What are you guys doing to curb bots traffic. Its inevitable but can be controlled. From my experience before switching to bodis, you guys were not doing anything to control bots visit. Can't imagine a situation where 99% of my traffic are bots. It makes no sense. Bodis will do everything possible to filter bot, with that you can accurately predict how your names are behaving. Am hoping to give you guys another chance if that could be checked curbed

Well, thats from your own end but from mine, undeveloped has been counting bots as traffics. I have a domain that recieved 7 bot hits from OVH hosting inc. With the network domain showing ip examples like ip.436. Blah blah. This particular hits were counted as traffic by undeveloped.

Or other domainers:

~99% of their users are just another domainers like you...

Or nonexistent:

With Undeveloped I lose all traffic - it can't be monetized.

I added 345 com domains at Undeveloped about a week back but all without parking and, by your own metrics, I can't see even a single visit on any of the domains which sort of validates what I have stated here earlier.

According to Sirbigman, an SEO marketer, UnDeveloped has almost no organic traffic:

I was referring to undeveloped, sorry.
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There you go. That's only organic traffic.

Based on that I have had all of my domains (about 1500) posted at UnDeveloped for 15 months now, and no sales and only one penny ante offer of a hundred euro I think it was, seems to be true. (Versus MANY sales and TONS of offers at the Afternic Sedo DomainAgents DynaDot marketplaces, for the exact same domains during the exact same time period.)

I use my own private landing pages.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Looks that Undeveloped improved their botfiltering...
Now I see ~ realistic stats VS 2018 year...

 

[Josytal]

you can redirect them

Using what method/tools ?
IP tracking - forget it, can be faked and doesn't work anymore.
You can end up redirecting real potential buyer - counterproductive.

One idea that comes to mind is using API to connect to AbuseIPDB, see if the IP has been blacklisted before and then (if yes) redirect the traffic to KGB website.

 

[frank-germany]

Using what method/tools ?
IP tracking - forget it, can be faked and doesn't work anymore.
You can end up redirecting real potential buyer - counterproductive.

One idea that comes to mind is using API to connect to AbuseIPDB, see if the IP has been blacklisted before and then (if yes) redirect the traffic to KGB website.

the IPs that I captured doing bot stuff
have never done anything
a human would have done once in a while

 

[IMEZI]

use vps with dedicated ip, point your domain to the ip, let it be for 12-24 hours and then check the access_log

 

[ecomslice]

Sorry to ask what is probably obvious to most, but what is a scanner in this sense?

I might of dreamed this up like all my other conspiracy theories. But I assume for several reasons people have built software to scan domains.

The ones that dont give valuable data:
- newly regged scan for call centre spam lists..
- government scans for potential online frauds sites

Ones that provide good data would be consistent scans of keywords , it's how I realized "check" was so hot

Or new spike in future tech domains as the programmer / owner has entered the new keyword in there algo.

I also predict bots/scanners/algos are scanning hashtags in social media somehow. What an amazing way to predict trends. Cha ching. Data is king




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[ecomslice]

I personally use UD for the landers as my top purpose. bot me up batman. can just check the return users and non bounces within 2 seconds of GA app check.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Regarding Bodis which was mentioned above...
Their botfiltering is average... many bots (especially from the USA) are not filtered.

 

[Joshua Harding]

I've had no such issues with GA integration on Undeveloped. Were you using GA and seeing similar numbers prior to listing with Undeveloped?

 

[Josytal]

Same problem here with my private marketplace at namecape.com
Bots are real menace nowadays. Apart from distorting the real stats, they consume a lot of resources.
GA can only filter them, it can not stop them.

 

[frank-germany]

Same problem here with my private marketplace at namecape.com
Bots are real menace nowadays. Apart from distorting the real stats, they consume a lot of resources.
GA can only filter them, it can not stop them.

you can redirect them

 

[frank-germany]

I was using GA with Efty but was not getting anywhere near the bot traffic that I am getting with Undeveloped.

Here is the screenshot just for today:

Aachen 1 user thats a real user from germany

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I use Undeveloped and did not notice any increase in bot traffic beyond the normal activity, some of which I presume is the legitimate search, etc. bots that crawl the web regularly. I wonder, have you been updating your sites more lately? I find that after I make website changes bot goes up, for a bit, and have always assumed that was related to search and directory bot activity.

 

[thevictor]

I use Undeveloped and did not notice any increase in bot traffic beyond the normal activity, some of which I presume is the legitimate search, etc. bots that crawl the web regularly. I wonder, have you been updating your sites more lately? I find that after I make website changes bot goes up, for a bit, and have always assumed that was related to search and directory bot activity.

Aside from updating the registrant contact email, there has been no recent changes.

What is odd is that only happens on Undeveloped. Same domain names were listed on Efty and were only getting bot hits once or twice per day...

 

[IMEZI]

first you have to filter it and acknowledged what bot is it.... there is plenty type of bots...

 

[thevictor]

Do you only see it with certain extensions?

It seems to be with all of my listings, no matter the extension.
The only exception being traffic from Aachen is specific to .net.

 

[IMEZI]

I will give that a try. Thank you.

Once I figure out the type of bots, what can I do with that information?

btw it supposed to be undeveloped job to filter and block bad bot, they were the one who paid for the server.

what can you do? let say there is 200 bot type and you think the most important bot were only bingbot and googlebot, so you could block the other 198 bot

 

[thevictor]

@thevictor

Did you sort the problem out? I am having the same problem and just want to know how you got on with the above suggestions.

@MrAcidic I am still getting "some" bot traffic, but not nearly as much as before. Don't think there is a way to stop the bots as of right now so I am just using the filters in GA to help shorten the list.

 

[thevictor]

I've had no such issues with GA integration on Undeveloped. Were you using GA and seeing similar numbers prior to listing with Undeveloped?

I was using GA with Efty but was not getting anywhere near the bot traffic that I am getting with Undeveloped.

Here is the screenshot just for today:

 

[thevictor]

Same problem here with my private marketplace at namecape.com
Bots are real menace nowadays. Apart from distorting the real stats, they consume a lot of resources.
GA can only filter them, it can not stop them.

Exactly! It is pretty annoying!

 

[thevictor]

Aachen 1 user thats a real user from germany

I thought that at first, but then noticed that this "potentially" real user only visits my .net domains, which would be an odd coincidence, given that I have 100+ names listed on Undeveloped.

 

[thevictor]

Here is the traffic stats from 5/24 thru today, 5/26...

I am curious if anyone else using Undeveloped has noticed anything similar. As mentioned, I also use Efty and still get some bot traffic, but nowhere near these numbers.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Aside from updating the registrant contact email, there has been no recent changes.

What is odd is that only happens on Undeveloped. Same domain names were listed on Efty and were only getting bot hits once or twice per day...

Do you only see it with certain extensions?

 

[thevictor]

first you have to filter it and acknowledged what bot is it.... there is plenty type of bots...

How would I know what type of bot it is? This is something new for me so I'm not sure about the "how tos" and "whys".