What's going on with Epik and Rob Monster?

[MapleDots]

I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

 

[Kate]

I said that the BREXIT without a plan is entirely the fault of the UK's elected officials. They were incompetent for not having trade deals in place.

It's not just about trade deals. And trade deals are always going to be less advantageous than membership of the common market. They take years of tough negotiations. Years.

When the UK will have to negotiate trade deals with nation like Japan, you can be sure it will not with the same leverage as the whole EU block. But the hardcore brexiters are claiming they are going to get a better deal by going it alone, good luck with that. Not likely.

Anyway, I just wanted to dispel the myth that you can be outside the EU and enjoy all of the advantages, without the constraints, and without being subject to EU law whatsoever. That doesn't exist. Not even Switzerland. Somebody who points to Switzerland or Norway does not know what he's talking about.

As for the unelecteds, those are the EU officials who are passing Draconian policies that the people of the EU do not want. The latest Article 11 / 13 (now re-branded as 15 / 17) is a case in point. The unelecteds approve a directive that the electeds would implement, saying that their hands are tied.

Voted by the EU Parliament. To the best of my knowledge it is not an unelected entity. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[TheBaldOne]

Presumably Rob Monster and anyone else outside the UK should not comment on Brexit?

There has been documented a considerable level of fraud and interference with the Brexit vote - that should concern anyone who wants the procedures of democracy to be sound, and needs to be investigated.

Any body can discuss the matter, that is free speech after all, but do not just be spoon fed the ridiculous claims by the 'establishment'.

As for the fraud one might question why our 'Electoral Commission' is stuffed full of Remoaners, indeed members have canvased for Remain and continue to do so. Then we can also look at the fact that when the findings of this 'Commission' have gone to court they have been found to be against natural justice, an example being when they advised the Leave campaign supporter he was doing everything right then after 3 investigations and without giving the defendant access to the details against him found him guilty of having committed an offence!

As for the investigations by so-called 'investigative journalists' they have made great headlines - but what doesn't make great headlines (because the MSM do not wish to publise it) is that the accusations have later had to be withdrawn as they have been found to be lies or deceit.

Finally, to go back to the Electoral Commission, strange isn't it that they refuse to investigate the Remain campaign even when evidence of law breaking is given to them by members of our own Parliament.

 

[Rob Monster]

This thread was dying down, so you decided to bump it up with some nonsense.

Well, I was busy working during the week so finally got around to catching up with this thread.

As for Joseph, the arrangement he and I have had there has been a win-win. Epik benefited from his talents, particularly while I was focused on DigitalTown, and before we added Nick Lim and Sufyan Alani. Joseph was not forced out but was mindful of his personal brand, probably has less thick skin than I do and is perhaps more comfortable with living under communism, shariah, or tyranny than I am.

As for the business, just FYI, less than 500 domains have transferred out since March 1. It is immaterial and entirely in line with normal activity as people sell domains. We have had more transfers in during the last 3 days than transfers out in the last 30 days. So perhaps you will explain to me how standing for principles and value is bad for business? The fact is that people value authenticity. It used to be a thing.

 

[carob]

Rob posted this? I had not seen that. Where did it appear? Twitter?

Monitoring Rob's personal political views as expressed on Twitter or anywhere else has never been part of my job description. Now that it is a matter of public discussion and affects the Epik brand, I will need to review them.

I object strongly to such propaganda, which is false, offensive, and divisive.

I think that may help us to understand your decision to leave Epik, and your not making further comment. Thanks for your very informative and thoughtful posts, and best of luck to you.

 

[JB Lions]

As for the business, just FYI, less than 500 domains have transferred out since March 1. It is immaterial and entirely in line with normal activity as people sell domains. We have had more transfers in during the last 3 days than transfers out in the last 30 days. So perhaps you will explain to me how standing for principles and value is bad for business? The fact is that people value authenticity. It used to be a thing.

Well, most people transfer when it's time to transfer, not a few months in.

We can agree to disagree if it's a good look for you to repost stuff from anti-Muslim, White Nationalist trolls. She's worked with these groups:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Identitaires#G.C3.A9n.C3.A9ration_Identitaire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identitarian_movement#In_Europe

She has a book literally called - Barbarians: How Baby Boomers, Immigrants, and Islam Screwed My Generation

Every thing I said about her is true.

Joseph was not forced out but was mindful of his personal brand, probably has less thick skin than I do and is perhaps more comfortable with living under communism, shariah, or tyranny than I am.

Wow. Most people don't talk about their former employees like that, especially one that was putting in some work for you here.

 

[NameLlama]

Rob Monster said: ↑ Joseph was not forced out but was mindful of his personal brand, probably has less thick skin than I do and is perhaps more comfortable with living under communism, shariah, or tyranny than I am.
Wow. Most people don't talk about their former employees like that, especially one that was putting in some work for you here.

 

[carob]

I read this entire twitter thread: https://twitter.com/MollyOShah/status/1064559963744419840

And I can't help but think that people are being played on all sides.

And now I am starting to feel like we are, too.

Thanks for posting that, there is some interesting info embedded there, particularly messages from Rob Monster.

Has Rob Monster at times had an admin role on Gab? Look at this from that thread:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dsc4fL9W0AEfMg6.jpg

And this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsbA1FuXoAIkAzg.jpg Rob says "I bet my own reputation on my decision to serve as Gab's registrar."

 

[rh2000]

Rob Monster said: ↑ Joseph was not forced out but was mindful of his personal brand, probably has less thick skin than I do and is perhaps more comfortable with living under communism, shariah, or tyranny than I am.
Wow. Most people don't talk about their former employees like that, especially one that was putting in some work for you here.

Wow! He left the company. I guess it is only so much covering up you can do for a person.

 

[ben pedri]

I'm not really up on news,or looking into what rob did or did not do ,I don't know if where talking politics or whatever I here people fighting what each other all day long about I love trump I hate trump,So honestly I'm not up on any news usually ,But as for domaining and that's what were here for ,hes the only one who stepped up.When ALPNAMES.com defaulted and my domains and other domainers started deleting,and got icann to move because they were lax about everything ,now the issue if being resolved,again I don't know at all about the situation ,but everyone screws up in life ,sometimes big sometime not. But as for this business and helping people hes been there for everyone.

 

[carob]

That is awful stuff. I wouldn't want to show it to anyone, but it is relevant to what follows in this postShow attachment 113878

Now let's have a look at the Epik.com Tos for domain registrants, including the above gab.com
https://www.epik.com/registration.php



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So what action will Epik take?

Will my post about Homeless Domains become topical sooner than expected?

Three full days later that horrific gab content is still there, not removed, not moderated.

Three full days later Epik's Tos prohibiting various forms of speech remain in place and unchanged as far as I know. So if Rob is involved in Gab, or even an admin there, why no action at Gab if Epik won't act?

Saying it is all down to a forum site or its admin will only be a way to excuse it a limited number of times for anyone minded to do that - see this post about moderation of User Generated Content:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/so...er-or-suspension.1107245/page-24#post-7170583

 

[Rob Monster]

I think Llama and JBL just outed themselves as being the same persona. Verbatim the same comment. Ooops. I think I knew who JBL was and now we know that the manufactured consensus is indeed that.

As for Kate and Carob, they are members of the same brigade and show up pronto every time so I am not sure how much I will engage with their narratives other than seizing the opportunity to drop an occasional truth bomb in response to their hive-mind nonsense.

 

[JB Lions]

I think Llama and JBL just outed themselves as being the same persona. Verbatim the same comment. Ooops. I think I knew who JBL was and now we know that the manufactured consensus is indeed that.

You're not very observant. He was quoting me obviously, his reply were the smileys. You conveniently left that part out of your screenshot. No, we're not the same person. You know NP staff can see that sort of thing? You and your conspiracy stuff.

 

[carob]

I think Llama and JBL just outed themselves as being the same persona. Verbatim the same comment. Ooops. I think I knew who JBL was and now we know that the manufactured consensus is indeed that.

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As for Kate and Carob, they are members of the same brigade and show up pronto every time so I am not sure how much I will engage with their narratives other than seizing the opportunity to drop an occasional truth bomb in response to their hive-mind nonsense.

Rob that really is not constructive - we are here to discuss issues and business, not ad hominem points. Describing factual posts as nonsense is, well, contrafactual. Maybe you could answer some questions and show us your good character rather than trying to criticise the character of others?

You use words like mob, tyranny, brigade, bias etc a great deal - just because more than one person asks you questions or disagrees with points you make does not mean there is a conspiracy against you, but the nice thing about being paranoid and believing in conspiracy theories is it makes a person feel important - and excuses them from any rational or civil discussion.

 

[Rob Monster]

Has Rob Monster at times had an admin role on Gab?

Nope, and for the record:

- Neither Epik I are an admin at Gab, directly or indirectly
- Neither Epik I are an owner of Gab, directly or indirectly
- Neither Epik I are the host for Gab, directly or indirectly

We are the registrar for Gab.com and Dissenter.com. We rarely speak with their personnel -- the last time being months ago.

I occasionally post at Gab thought lately much less as I believe that mission was accomplished now that management is actively enforcing ToS and has capable legal counsel on board.

Epik supports lawful free speech of all types, including the voices that are censored or oppressed, regardless of any personal bias or preference of management.

 

[oldtimer]

You are not so well informed about the EU and how it works.

Had to come back for one more post:

Advocating for intentional maiming and torture of other human beings is not a holy and divine calling, but rather is a tool of suppression and oppression that is used by the ruling class and the elites to keep the lower classes obedient while they themselves engage in far worst immoral and indecent behaviors and activities. The European Union has been supporting these evil and brutal acts done in the name of God by certain groups because they are using these religious ideologies as a shield against Russian aggressions and as such the EU has helped to make these extreme ideologies to become much more stronger in the past fifty years to the point that now the whole European culture and values along with the rest of the Western World are being taken over by these extreme and unholy ways of thinking which is tearing Europe apart.

All our social, behavioral, Medical, genetical, economical, and environmental problems can be solved by the Advent of AI provided that those who consider themselves to be educated, enlightened, and decent people stop supporting all the different political, religious, and racial extremist ideologies that stand in the way of progress.

As I have already mentioned I have the outmost respect for those who promote moderation regardless of their political, racial, or religious affiliations and I hope that all voices of moderation can find a common cause in promoting a World that is free from extreme ideologies and that is based on logic, compassion, and the Universal rights and values.

Those who want to keep the status quo have been preempting the voice of reason for many years now by discrediting and killing the activists and journalist all around the World, we should not let those who want to keep us in the past to preempt AI with the help of tech tyrants.

 

[Rob Monster]

You use words like mob, tyranny, brigade, bias etc a great deal.

First of all, I look forward to the day when everyone uses actual identities. As a nameless/faceless person, it is really hard to take you seriously. I read your stuff but only selectively engage with sock puppets.

I mean "you" no disrespect. However, in light of your decision to be nameless and faceless, I question your intentions, and believe "you" to be unauthentic.

As for the conspiracy topic:

Most people are not studied on the propaganda tactics developed by the likes or Alinsky, Bernays, and Gramsci. I am.

Most people people had not heard of a "Hegelian dialectic" until they read about it in this thread, nor have trained their eyes to be observant in modern times for its application. I have.

Most people have not really contemplated the meaning of life, nor did they deeply consider why the Founding Fathers of our nation were dogmatic about civil liberty and natural law. I did.

Most people conflate knowledge and wisdom as if they are the same. There are highly educated people, who embrace atheism, which they have the temerity to not recognize for being a religion. I don't.

 

[JB Lions]

First of all, I look forward to the day when everyone uses actual identities. As a nameless/faceless person, it is really hard to take you seriously. I read your stuff but only selectively engage with sock puppets.

As for the conspiracy topic:

Most people are not studied on the propaganda tactics developed by the likes or Alinsky, Bernays, and Gramsci. I am.

Most people people had not heard of a "Hegelian dialectic" until they read about it in this thread, nor have trained their eyes to be observant in modern times for its application. I have.

Most people have not really contemplated the meaning of life, nor did they deeply consider why the Founding Fathers of our nation were dogmatic about civil liberty and natural law. I did.

Most people conflate knowledge and wisdom as if they are the same. There are highly educated people, who embrace atheism, which they have the temerity to not recognize for being a religion. I don't.

I mean "you" no disrespect. However, in light of your decision to be nameless and faceless, I question your intentions, and believe "you" to be unauthentic.

I was waiting for the Alinksy stuff. It's one of the crutches you use when you can't reply to the actual content of the post. You've used that one alone here many times, on your blog, on your Twitter, at Gab, etc.

As far as identities, nameless/faceless person, another one of your crutches. You say that, but for some reason it doesn't apply when you engage with all the anonymous people at Gab. Didn't stop you yesterday from linking out to Zero Hedge articles written by.......Tyler Durden. You know that's not a real name right? It's a character from the movie Fight Club. You literally did a recorded broadcast (the Eric Striker one) with 2 racists, they didn't show their face. I guess that one was ok too.

You bumped this thread talking about Sharia, posting stuff from Lauren Southern. Didn't touch the stuff I posted about her. Didn't touch how you talk about your former employee. Not posting full screenshots. You like to talk about tactics, when you're using them to dodge questions, actual content of a post.

 

[Rob Monster]

Had to come back for one more post:

All our social, behavioral, Medical, genetical, economical, and environmental problems can be solved by the Advent of AI ....

AI is indeed the next big thing. We agree. FYI, BitMitigate.com is largely AI. Nick Lim, the Founder of BitMitigate, and now CTO of Epik, is all about AI. Only AI can fight off a DDoS attack from 10 million IPs and still let human traffic through. AI keeps improving and can be replicated with little or no cost, thereby providing anyone with the ability to benefit. That is profound and is happening.

Looking ahead, as structured data combines with AI, the list of potential AI applications that will change lives is hard to comprehend. The big question is whether it will be a force for good and general abundance, or whether it will overwhelmingly benefit a small minority that wishes to keep the rest of humanity enslaved through debt, dependence, and ignorance. I am working for general abundance.

 

[Rob Monster]

I was waiting for the Alinksy stuff.

Any references to textbook propagandists is not for you. It is for those who should study their tactics so that they can train their minds to process propaganda more effectively and with conscious discernment

Tyler Durden. You know that's not a real name right?

I occasionally read ZH. It is really not a go-to for me and rarely link to it. Have I ever quoted "Tyler"? No, I have not. Ad hominem omitted.

Didn't touch how you talk about your former employee.

Joseph is still with us -- there will be an orderly transition. I have only love for the guy even if we disagree about how the world should work. That said, Epik's talent bench is deeper than you probably realize.

 

[carob]

I mean "you" no disrespect. However, in light of your decision to be nameless and faceless, I question your intentions, and believe "you" to be unauthentic.

I think what you mean is that since I and others raise points you don't want to respond to, you try to invalidate the person, despite your claims that you are against censorship. I do hope you believe in privacy but in passing I have pointed out several occasions where you have violated others' privacy. Do you think that encourages people to trust you, particularly with any personal information?

I have already pointed out to you that Namepros does not have a real names policy, you might want to read that post again, and the namepros rules https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...-and-rob-monster.1128748/page-20#post-7166639

You really seem to be in a mood to make unpleasant remarks about others today, I don't know what time zone you are in but perhaps you need more rest.