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I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

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... Also, you seem to have forgotten to add in credit for the open source guys that you stole your search engine from. You are only one taking credit for others' work. Just like you did with your VPN and DDOS scams.

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not sure if you think of Google Analytics to be a tracking system
but for me: I use it as exactly that


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Most people actively block the JS used by Google Analytics (hard to tell if GA stats are accurate). The Server Side stats requires a regular tune-up ... but the result is still better than GA.

Regards
 
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Most people actively block the JS used by Google Analytics (hard to tell if GA stats are accurate). The Server Side stats requires a regular tune-up ... but the result is still better than GA.

Regards

so you say
because
"most people" block the java script that is used by G Analytics

its no tracking tool?

I don't block it
and I see quite a few people not using it in my G Analytics

( I use G Analytics to track my visitors )
 
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its no tracking tool?

It is.
For you: it will tell you how your site is performing +/- .
For visitors: it will accurately track the IP (node) activity for everything and + personal behavior ... constantly.
 
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It is.
For you: it will tell you how your site is performing +/- .
For visitors: it will accurately track the IP (node) activity for everything and + personal behavior ... constantly.
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I'm so glad that you @Rob Monster judge nobody

Keep this in mind:

"Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee. " - Proverbs 9:8.

If he is a Christian, he will thank me later.

It is sometimes a hard call whether to call someone out.

The reality is that the Toki.com project has very little to do with search. That is a feature and it will use OpenSource source codebases where it makes sense to do so.

There is a hardware component and a software component.

The hardware component is a resilient server that can serve up to 500 people for 3 days running just on battery using a server that costs about $60 to produce. It is still in development but it does a LOT.

Here is a photo of a prototype -- it is very real and operational developed by a highly capable computer hardware engineer:

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Just for calibration, It is about the size of a deck of cards.

The software component is also under development. You can already play around with it if you have a Raspberry Pi 4 processor. See here:

https://toki.com/download

The goal is that any community that stands up a Toki server can be a Tokiville. The foundation of that is the so-called Toki OS which you can already download and use.

In its own way, it is a pretty revolutionary idea. It is also safe to say that it is a very different idea than Gorp.

At its core Toki is a decentralized operating system for digital empowerment. It will run a range of applications and have the means to empower shared access to content and applications.

We are experimenting with technologies for connecting this device even in places with very limited telecom infrastructure.

We are also developing shared content libraries which "Digital Librarians" can manage so that Toki servers become decentralized repositories of knowledge.

So, when we talk about working to bring another 1 billion people online in the next 5 years, there is a bit of substance behind that rhetoric. Lord-willing something comes of it.
 
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Keep this in mind:

"Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee. " - Proverbs 9:8.

If he is a Christian, he will thank me later.

It is sometimes a hard call whether to call someone out.

The reality is that the Toki.com project has very little to do with search. That is a feature and it will use OpenSource source codebases where it makes sense to do so.

There is a hardware component and a software component.

The hardware component is a resilient server that can serve up to 500 people for 3 days running just on battery using a server that costs about $60 to produce. It is still in development but it does a LOT.

Here is a photo of a prototype -- it is very real and operational developed by a highly capable computer hardware engineer:

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Just for calibration, It is about the size of a deck of cards.

The software component is also under development. You can already play around with it if you have a Raspberry Pi 4 processor. See here:

https://toki.com/download

The goal is that any community that stands up a Toki server can be a Tokiville. The foundation of that is the so-called Toki OS which you can already download and use.

In its own way, it is a pretty revolutionary idea. It is also safe to say that it is a very different idea than Gorp.

At its core Toki is a decentralized operating system for digital empowerment. It will run a range of applications and have the means to empower shared access to content and applications.

We are experimenting with technologies for connecting this device even in places with very limited telecom infrastructure.

We are also developing shared content libraries which "Digital Librarians" can manage so that Toki servers become decentralized repositories of knowledge.

So, when we talk about working to bring another 1 billion people online in the next 5 years, there is a bit of substance behind that rhetoric. Lord-willing something comes of it.


good to see you are back to normal operations

please understand this is no promotional post for a service of yours called toki

but post that informs the community
that you are claiming to "never judge anybody"


but you just had judged someone
 
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this post is to inform the community
that Rob Monster is claiming
to have removed all tracking codes from epik
in order to not tracking "friends"

but is using Google analytics on epik.com homepage

I see no issue with using google analytics
I use it myself

but I see no issue with tracking, too
and I am not claiming to not track

but Rob does

I have an issue with people trying to promote a clean, honest image of themself
but doing something different than publically postulated


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this post is to inform the community
that Rob Monster is claiming
to have removed all tracking codes from epik
in order to not tracking "friends"

but is using Google analytics on epik.com homepage

I see no issue with using google analytics
I use it myself

but I see no issue with tracking, too
and I am not claiming to not track

but Rob does

I have an issue with people trying to promote a clean, honest image of themself
but doing something different than publically postulated


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There was a period in late 2018 and much of 2019 where there is some concern that free speech enthusiasts who visit Epik.com would be tracked. That concern has pretty much gone away.

There was also a discussion with Brave about an operating partnership. That never materialized. The folks at Gab built Dissenter.com instead, for which Epik is the domain registrar and host.

As for GA, we don't use it on operating software that we host, e.g. registrar.epik.com, marketplace.epik.com, nameliquidate.com, etc. You can see the full suite of our applications here.

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Also, customers can choose to add GA to their SSL landers:

https://epik.com/support/knowledgebase/add-google-analytics-in-bulk-to-premium-ssl-landing-pages/

That said, we don't add it by default and we also don't use it for our own portfolio.

Any customer that wants to use Epik.com without tripping over any Google code should not use Chrome, and should go here:

https://registrar.epik.com/

It bypasses the Epik homepage.

If you use the Anonymize.com VPN, which is also free, we are stripping out tracking code.

In other words, there are ample counter-measures and our stance on privacy is largely the same as before which is why WHOIS privacy remains free and why we defend customers ardently:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/have-you-hugged-your-whois-privacy-provider-today.1162503

Finally, we are on the lookout for a great alternative to GA which might also double as an Alexa alternative. If folks find something great, let us know. There is certainly empowerment potential there.
 
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There was a period in late 2018 and much of 2019 where there is some concern that free speech enthusiasts who visit Epik.com would be tracked. That concern has pretty much gone away.

There was also a discussion with Brave about an operating partnership. That never materialized. The folks at Gab built Dissenter.com instead, for which Epik is the domain registrar and host.

As for GA, we don't use it on operating software that we host, e.g. registrar.epik.com, marketplace.epik.com, nameliquidate.com, etc. You can see the full suite of our applications here.

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Also, customers can choose to add GA to their SSL landers:

https://epik.com/support/knowledgebase/add-google-analytics-in-bulk-to-premium-ssl-landing-pages/

That said, we don't add it by default and we also don't use it for our own portfolio.

Any customer that wants to use Epik.com without tripping over any Google code should not use Chrome, and should go here:

https://registrar.epik.com/

It bypasses the Epik homepage.

If you use the Anonymize.com VPN, which is also free, we are stripping out tracking code.

In other words, there are ample counter-measures and our stance on privacy is largely the same as before which is why WHOIS privacy remains free and why we defend customers ardently:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/have-you-hugged-your-whois-privacy-provider-today.1162503

Finally, we are on the lookout for a great alternative to GA which might also double as an Alexa alternative. If folks find something great, let us know. There is certainly empowerment potential there.



maybe its time to tweet at DuckDuckGo s feed
that you started tracking your friends again

to make announcements in order to promote epik
that sounds good to the potential clients

and then silently revoke them..

well ...
I don't want to call it lying.
 
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maybe its time to tweet at DuckDuckGo s feed
that you started tracking your friends again

to make announcements in order to promote epik
that sounds good to the potential clients

and then silently revoke them..

well ...
I don't want to call it lying.

Easier solution: deleted that old Tweet.

By the way, some months after that Tweet, we discovered that DuckDuckGo is just using a Bing API. So, don't be impressed. For the moment, Toki.com search is a bit slower, but it really is private. Check it out:

https://toki.com/

Also, if you have a Raspberry Pi 4 processor you can also be an early adopter of the Toki OS.I referenced it earlier but here it is again:

https://toki.com/download

It might actually be a force for good and we are looking for early adopters to work with engineering to make it better and develop applications that will run on it.

The target audience is emerging markets -- places with little or no internet.

In places like Nigeria, the most populous nation of Africa, where we are very active, it costs $40-60 to have an internet connection when most people make less than $200/month.

When it comes to search, VPNs, and email privacy, not all is at seems so yes, good to choose your vendors wisely and also good to hold them to a standard so no issues there.
 
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Easier solution: deleted that old Tweet.

By the way, some months after that Tweet, we discovered that DuckDuckGo is just using a Bing API. So, don't be impressed. For the moment, Toki.com search is a bit slower, but it really is private. Check it out:

https://toki.com/

Also, if you have a Raspberry Pi 4 processor you can also be an early adopter of the Toki OS.I referenced it earlier but here it is again:

https://toki.com/download

It might actually be a force for good and we are looking for early adopters to work with engineering to make it better and develop applications that will run on it.

The target audience is emerging markets -- places with little or no internet.

In places like Nigeria, the most populous nation of Africa, where we are very active, it costs $40-60 to have an internet connection when most people make less than $200/month.

When it comes to search, VPNs, and email privacy, not all is at seems so yes, good to choose your vendors wisely and also good to hold them to a standard so no issues there.

so you still believe that my post is a good place to promote your products
though I just proved that you don't care to keep your promises

in case you think time and conditions have changed?
 
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Grow up people - the only reason DDG is promoting "privacy" is to have their own separate niche outside Google search traffic dominance. They are already gladly feed you with ads like google do, etc. For God's sake, do you really think that DDG "cares" about your privacy?
 
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... constant enmity on caffeine :sleep:
 
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Grow up people - the only reason DDG is promoting "privacy" is to have their own separate niche outside Google search traffic dominance. They are already gladly feed you with ads like google do, etc. For God's sake, do you really think that DDG "cares" about your privacy?


it's not about DuckDuckgo
it's about epik making claims/promises
in order to attract clients
( "we don't track friends" )

that they won't keep
when their mind changes
 
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