discuss What Are You? A Domainer or a Domain Originator?

[ThatNameGuy]

A Speculator? A Creator? A Developer? A Investor? A Artist? A Domainer? or none of the aforementioned? I'm about to register a couple of domain names that clarifies exactly who I am, and I'm proud of it. Having hand registered 1,500 domains in the last 12 months I've finally determined I'm a Domain Originator and not a a domainer (which still isn't a word btw). One would have thought that leaders in this industry would have clarified this by now?

Originator defined: a person who creates or initiates something.

Domainer defined: No Definition....sad

I've been creating names for businesses all my life, and it wasn't until recently that I started creating domain names. There's really little difference imho, and I feel I'm getting better at it every day.

So I'm a Domain Originator similar to a Mortgage Originator. I create internet domain names for .coms etc. I also recently originated the name DomainOrigination(.)com to coincide with DomainOriginator(.)com. Google shows that both Wiki and Investopedia have a page description for "Mortgage Originator" but none for Domainer or Domain Originator

For those of you who create domains like me (keeping in mind every domain was created by someone), now you can proudly say you're a Domain Originator adding credibility to your profession

If you create domains like me, share your profession with the world. I know I will.

Crappy domains? I think not, but what do I know....I'm just a newbie who hasn't a clue

Cheers Everyone!

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Direct match keywords are things you might type into google, for instance, "Ladies Watch" - Dog Flea Collar"

Games With Names is clever indeed, Many domain names such as this, have been sold for nice money, Mike Mann sold FiveStarApartments.com sold for $16,000.

Thanks Addict...I think Games with Names is "clever indeed too". And your not the only one who thinks so. The portfolio of domains that I've originated and registered is pretty incredible considering I have very little experience in this industry. Good luck with your domain origination, and God Bless you which ever God looks over you.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I think one thing that needs to be addressed that hasn't ,Don't buy to many names before you sell some names, harvesting domain inventory is very risky, many take it as " I only lose $8 if i end up dropping a name, X that by 300 or 400, and trying to capture a ROI is a VERY hard thing to do, Covering renewals is necessary, holding to much inventory without enough sales to cover expenses will lead to a very dark place.

The above was the first hard lesson in domaining for me, very painful. and damn near took me out, 2.7k in losses

Addict...I can afford to buy my own domains and pay a premium if I wanted to. The 12-15K that I've spent buying domains pales in comparison to the 2,000 plus hours I've spent learning this business. To insinuate that I don't know what I'm doing is an insult to my intelligence and my 50 plus years of practical business experience. I'm famous for saying, "I wasn't born yesterday", and it's a FACT that I was born 71 years ago on Saturday October 20th. Finally, I can assure you and anyone else reading this I understand ROI far better than anyone on this blog. Have a nice evening, and good luck with your spinning..

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I'm kind of taken aback at your response especially since I was sincerely trying to give you the best advice from my years of experience.

I will not do like some of the others here and try to force my opinion on you because there are a lot of newer domainers on the forum that are seeking advice. I will check in on occasion and see how you are doing, and believe it or not I still wish you success. Will it happen, probably not because I have seen this scenario a hundred times over, but.... maybe you will surprise me.

Don't worry MapleDots...you'll never know it either. And thanks for acknowledging that you "will not do like some of the others here and try to force my opinion on you" Those words speak volumes, and I did tell you that I can read between the lines...in this case, I didn't need to read between the lines. I certainly don't need the likes of you or "some of the others" to be successful as a Domain Originator, or in life

 

[.X.]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh I finally get it.... this is in the humor forum right?

HeHe.... you had me going for a while

Originator..... good one

PS. Hopefully you can read between the lines. (I left some space)

I started in 2002 and gave up about 7 years later before starting up again in 2010.
Same scenario, I bought thousands of domains and Hover.com was obliging me with free scripts to register as many as possible.

Little does @Bulloney know that we have actually been there, we have lived it. I lost tens of thousands before I ever made my money back. If I wished him harm I would encourage him to continue.

Sigh......

I felt your pain, It was like losing money in a casino and trying to make back my losses to break even, I figured out quick, there is no making back the losses, I had to completely start over, accept my loss as a lesson learned and move forward, I really didn't think i would recover, I was sure i was done.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Startupsinternational is a good name imo although you can't say your the originator being it was previously registered a few times
Good names plus business equals opportunity in my opinion. Much better than just sitting around waiting for a buyer imo. Please don't take this the wrong way but I think you may mistakenly come across to some people as pompous or arrogant. Good luck in your endeavors and maybe try to be nicer and more respectful of other people's input and not condescending. Please don't take my criticism as anything but with good intentions on my part.

Hi there...are you Tarek? The reason I ask is I learned who you are from your website @ChicagoLandAdvertising(.)com. Tarek, before I get into your comments about my appearing to be pompous, arrogant and condescending, I just wanted you to know that I didn't say I'd originated the domain StartUpsInternational(.) com, however I did say that I had "registered" it, and I even referred to it as a RescueDomain.....please reread my post. When I visited your site Tarek I see where you have more of a local focus for the Chicago area, and your domain name reflects it. I also noticed that your site (clean and sharp btw) caters to local businesses and even states, "Ask about our Small business Startup Packages Starting at $15 a month." Since you may have gotten a taste of what I'm thinking regarding local startups under the rescue domain, StartUpsInternational(.)com, maybe we should talk, but that's up to you.

Moving on, we all miscommunicate things when we read, write and even speak every day. My troubles, challenges, opportunities first started here on NP when I was falsely accused of cyber squatting and criminal activity due to my name being "Richard Morris", and a particular member from downunder believing the individual in this UDPR filing was me:http://www.adrforum.com/Domaindecisions/1093690.htm Tarek, between the states of Virginia and North Carolina I would venture to say there are more than 25 Richard Morris's, and the Richard Morris in this filing is not me....I swear to God. Ever since, I've been targeted by this member and other members who believe and support her. Bottomline, that's what this is all about, and I can tell you more via messaging, or via your personal email if you would like, for this is not the place to discuss it. Thanks Tarek, and it's nice to meet you.

 

[TRY]

Hi there...are you Tarek? The reason I ask is I learned who you are from your website @ChicagoLandAdvertising(.)com. Tarek, before I get into your comments about my appearing to be pompous, arrogant and condescending, I just wanted you to know that I didn't say I'd originated the domain StartUpsInternational(.) com, however I did say that I had "registered" it, and I even referred to it as a RescueDomain.....please reread my post. When I visited your site Tarek I see where you have more of a local focus for the Chicago are, and your domain name reflects it. I also noticed that your site (clean and sharp btw) caters to local businesses and even states, "Ask about our Small business Startup Packages Starting at $15 a month." Since you may have gotten a taste of what I'm thinking regarding local startups under the rescue domain, StartUpsInternational(.)com, maybe we should talk, but that's up to you.

Moving on, we all miscommunicate things when we read, write and even speak every day. My troubles, challenges, opportunities first started here on NP when I was falsely accused of cyber squatting and criminal activity due to my name being "Richard Morris", and a particular member from downunder believing the individual in this UDPR filing was me:http://www.adrforum.com/Domaindecisions/1093690.htm Tarek, between the states of Virginia and North Carolina I would venture to say there are more than 25 Richard Morris's, and the Richard Morris in this filing is not me....I swear to God. Ever since, I've been targeted by this member and other members who believe and support her. Bottomline, that's what this is all about, and I can tell you more via messaging, or via your personal email if you would like, for this is not the place to discuss it. Thanks Tarek, and it's nice to meet you.

I don't believe in parking Pages, I'd rather throw my money into the wind then be taken advantage of. The Chicagoland advertising is somewhat of a parking page that I use for numerous domains that forward to it. I just spent a few hours creating the page for identity purposes. You will notice I posted my search advertising certificate from Google on one of the pages. I acquire names not for resale but there are times I do sell to end users as most resellers offer nowhere near what I believe they are worth. I have though offered names very cheaply as a way to pay it forward to someone that I think is nice or would put it to good use. I also have another page I use when forwarding quite a few other domains that point to Strongpunch.com. as for local that is the most valuable type of traffic. I have a network targeting different Industries in local regions. I specifically only see value in .com and cctlds. I have a vehicle network of sites that Target locally also. I don't share much about the businesses but I will share the following because there's something new that I'm working on. Carlot.us, that site is a hub for locally targeted vehicle domain names to point to different sections of in the future. I must end this now as my battery is about to die at any moment and I would hate it to end in mid-sentence. Nice meeting you too.

 

[Kpett]

Poor Bulloney. I was so looking forward to how long this thread was going to go on ...

 

[BaileyUK]

Got to be another 'Bulloney' infringement there somewhere or other, I wondered if he speak to the mods the same way he posts on here, that's bound to guarantee a time-out.

I reframe from posting on his live threads because you have No way of knowing how he is going to take it. Anyway I'm sure we all have acquaintances that are as stubborn, The Flat-Earth types etc, Always fascinating but nevertheless always flawed

 

[BrandEntrance.com]

No JayT....Go Daddy's appraisals act as a selling tool for me. While they may not impress you, I know for a fact they impress "non domainers" and potential investors. I'm not trying to sell my domains to other domainers, but rather to business persons like myself. Here are five reasons why GD appraisals are good for sales;

1. Go Daddy is the most recognizable name in the industry
2. Go Daddy provides "comparable" sales for their appraisals
3. Go Daddy provides other reasons for their appraisals like; "High Value Word", "Easy to Remember" etc.
4. Go Daddy makes it easy to access it's appraisal system
5. While just a third of my domains are registered at Go Daddy, I've made the decision to originate future names for resale at Go Daddy because it adds to my credibility.

Finally, I use to own a medical billing business and the software my partner developed/created ran on IBM hardware to include a IBM System36 and IBM PC's when they first came out. Even though we weren't a reseller for IBM hardware at the time, it added a whole lot to our credibility when we were selling our service to end users. Go Daddy and Go Daddy's appraisals service the same purpose as the name IBM did when marketing.

Does this make any sense to you JayT? I know I'm not the only one that gets it, but some people just can't see the forest for the trees

IBM also had the nickname 1 BIG Mutha! back in the day.

 

[Josytal]

Domain Investor/hobbyist

 

[BrandEntrance.com]

Makes me wonder who Richard the banned one is and what hechas been doing.

 

[Jay Ha]

Guess he's now the email unsolicited-tor.

 

[MapleDots]

I somehow made it on the list of IncredbileBreasts.com

Seems like he was getting bouncebacks and has figured out my address.

 

[golan]

I somehow made it on the list of IncredbileBreasts.com

Seems like he was getting bouncebacks and has figured out my address.

Me too. Told him to go fuck himself, reported to every spam list i could find in google.

 

[NYJimbo]

Personally, I will stand behind my comment that DomainGourmet.com is fantastic.

And I would disagree with you.

Look, I know it sounds like a good domain. But in practical use its nothing special. Its been flipped countless times and then went dead for almost a decade. So, meh.....

 

[Bertrell]

Most of the domainers I run into around here can't even spell "connoisseur"...

.com​

Just came to say I'm a hobbyist. (And I think I was able to spell connoisseurs correctly.) I'm not a huge candy corn fan, but I know a lot of folks who are.

Cheers!

 

[dyn888]

I don't pay a lot for two word domains because I buy them wholesale but if @Bulloney wants his first real sale I will offer him $250 USD via paypal for that domain.

Nice, but can he contact you? He is still banned or temp-banned and guests do not see signatures.

 

[MapleDots]

Or you could save $240 and register DomainNameGourmet...

I don't buy 3 words and not the same effect.

Understand I have my domaining site, I was making a point that I would give him his first real sale because I believe I could market the domain.

Nice, but can he contact you? He is still banned or temp-banned and guests do not see signatures.

Oh, trust me, he knows how to contact anyone he wants to. Besides, that is why it's good to have a totally unique domain name for business., type it into google and there you are.

 

[Joe N]

I don't buy 3 words and not the same effect.

Understand I have my domaining site, I was making a point that I would give him his first real sale because I believe I could market the domain.

I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek, but only because no one's going to develop a domain blog today that will rake in the cash... So if one likes the concept, they can alter the name a bit and away you go. The content makes the brand for this kind of site... not the shortness of the name.

 

[Joe N]

Gourmet is an adjective so its better on the front

DomainGourmet - the words are the wrong way around
GourmetDomain.com or GourmetDomains.com - Much better names and make more sense

I wouldn't buy either though

My 2 cents

It actually works both ways...

DomainGourmet - a person who is a gourmet, specifically of domains
GourmetDomains - Domains that are of gourmet quality

I prefer the first, but I agree... wouldn't spend for either.

 

[gilescoley]

It actually works both ways...

DomainGourmet - a person who is a gourmet, specifically of domains
GourmetDomains - Domains that are of gourmet quality

I prefer the first, but I agree... wouldn't spend for either.

The word "gourmet" as you refer to it is mainly used in culinary/food industry (gourmet chef etc) but I guess you can do whatever you want in domaining if you really want.

 

[exyzed]

Originator defined: a person who creates or initiates something.

Domainer defined: No Definition....sad

my revision-al take on this:

Originator defined: a person who creates or initiates something.

Domain defined: an exclusive address of your website through which....


Domain Originator defined: No Definition....sad

 

[otismo]

I, too, can also conceptualize WAY faster than 8 billion people could ever implement -

BUT I wud not call myself Conceptualizer or Domain Name Conceptualizer, etc.

Domain Investor is a moniker I like...

But domains must first be legitimatized as an asset class

so U can buy them in your IRA or 401K or ETF or Mutual Fund, etc.

One step in that direction seems to be something like Forever Registration -

Does Epik have a monopoly on that ?

 

[Walter Eason]

I'm a domainer and love the industry. You can define yours in another way.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

You are correct in what you say so let me correct my statement.

PROPERLY DEVELOPED DomainGourmet.com is a fantastic concept for a domaining site.

There is only one problem I can see with that domain name and that is that I did not think of it first.
Man I could think of a hundred different ways to develop that into a domaining blog or domaining website.

Imagine a bowl full of domain names with some spilling over. Imagine a gourmet meal vs a so so meal. What makes a good domain and what makes a bad one. Everyone calls themselves a chef but few truly are.

The concept is one that I personally love... set it up like a menu etc etc.
Absolutely endless possibilities.

I have to stop here because people will think I'm endorsing someone, which I am truly not. But I am big enough to admit when someone has a great concept.

I don't pay a lot for two word domains because I buy them wholesale but if @Bulloney wants his first real sale I will offer him $250 USD via paypal for that domain.

Mind you.... he is not the originator though
It has just never been properly developed and the previous owners probably did not have the vision to develop it.

I owe you a big thank you MapleDots...what i've discovered is that very few domainers have the vision to develop their own domains While developing DomainGourmet™ i'm also in the process of re-branding myself as That Name Guy™. I've learned there's a lot more to this business than just "domains". This forum is called NamePros not DomainPros, thus to go with DomainGourmet™ I looked into buying NameGourmet, but sadly it was taken. However, I was able to hand register a name that's just as goodYou wouldn't believe the plethora of all sorts of "names" for all sorts of things; boats, pets, nicknames, nameplates/tags, streets, etc.

Will you or anyone following this thread be in Vegas next month at NamesCon not DomainsCon? I'll probably be the guy having the most fun Ho! Ho! Ho! and God Bless!


Bulloney aka ThatNameGuy™