discuss What Are You? A Domainer or a Domain Originator?

[ThatNameGuy]

A Speculator? A Creator? A Developer? A Investor? A Artist? A Domainer? or none of the aforementioned? I'm about to register a couple of domain names that clarifies exactly who I am, and I'm proud of it. Having hand registered 1,500 domains in the last 12 months I've finally determined I'm a Domain Originator and not a a domainer (which still isn't a word btw). One would have thought that leaders in this industry would have clarified this by now?

Originator defined: a person who creates or initiates something.

Domainer defined: No Definition....sad

I've been creating names for businesses all my life, and it wasn't until recently that I started creating domain names. There's really little difference imho, and I feel I'm getting better at it every day.

So I'm a Domain Originator similar to a Mortgage Originator. I create internet domain names for .coms etc. I also recently originated the name DomainOrigination(.)com to coincide with DomainOriginator(.)com. Google shows that both Wiki and Investopedia have a page description for "Mortgage Originator" but none for Domainer or Domain Originator

For those of you who create domains like me (keeping in mind every domain was created by someone), now you can proudly say you're a Domain Originator adding credibility to your profession

If you create domains like me, share your profession with the world. I know I will.

Crappy domains? I think not, but what do I know....I'm just a newbie who hasn't a clue

Cheers Everyone!

 

[NickB]

Courtesy of Domain Sherpa....sums it up quite nicely.

"A domainer is an individual or company that actively engages in the buying, selling, marketing, monetization and publishing of internet domain names and other related web and or internet-based properties."

https://www.domainsherpa.com/domain-name-dictionary/domainer

Definition: "a statement of the exact meaning of a word, especially in a dictionary."

The above does not say exclusively in a dictionary for a reason.....

So we can clearly see that Domainer has a definition, me I'm just a hobbyist

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I think a new name is definitely in order, @Bulloney, although not sure I am that keen personally on originator. I like domain name artist. It stresses the creative side, an artist may create almost exclusively but also may reuse elements from previous creations (since @Joe Nichols raises a valid point) and certainly may be influenced by the style of other artists.

I am glad the storm did not (I trust) do too much damage for you personally @Bulloney, and hope that things are back to normal.

Bob (aka Domain Name Artist )

Bob...i like Domain Name Artist too....it conjures curiosity and that does it for me. I see where someone has already originated and registered it...is that you? Most anything beats "hand regger" or "domainer" imho.

As for hurricane Michael...it caught most of us here in VB by surprise. While the storm made landfall about a thousand miles south of where I am, it exited back to the Ocean right near where I live packing winds of 70+ mph. We're fine though but my wife and I spent the better part of a day cleaning up. I do have a gas run generator that kept my refrigerator freezer, radio and a few lights on for the 48 hours we were without electricity.

On a side note, not only did I come up with the idea for Domain Originator during the storm, I also jotted down on a legal pad about a hundred new "Incredible" names to add to my incredible domain portfolio. I'll share two names with you,and the reasoning behind them;

IncredibleBees(.)com
IncredibleHoney(.)com

First, I'd like to mention that I've done a lot of research on the word "incredible", and it turns out it's used all over the world to describe everything from "kids" to "love" to "art". I don't own any of these domains, but I do own about 25 similar "incredible" names.

Back to "Bees" and "Honey". My pastors wife raises honey bees, and during the storm some of their beehives were damaged. There have been a few documentaries done on the importance of "Bees" and it's a well known fact that bees are so critical to our ecosystem the world wouldn't survive without them. Thus, IncredibleBees. And to compliment IncredibleBees, IncredibleHoney just goes with the territory.

Finally, to originate names like this and sit on them for years and hope and pray someone might want them is an exercise in futility imho. I haven't registered either of these names yet, but when I do, I have a plan for how to market them.

Thanks Bob.....come Wednesday October 17th, Canada will see some IncredibleHigh(s).com. How do you think this will impact tourism from around the world? Doobie Diners and Taco Juana(s) should be packed

 

[Elad n]

Bob...i like Domain Name Artist too....it conjures curiosity and that does it for me. I see where someone has already originated and registered it...is that you? Most anything beats "hand regger" or "domainer" imho.

As for hurricane Michael...it caught most of us here in VB by surprise. While the storm made landfall about a thousand miles south of where I am, it exited back to the Ocean right near where I live packing winds of 70+ mph. We're fine though but my wife and I spent the better part of a day cleaning up. I do have a gas run generator that kept my refrigerator freezer, radio and a few lights on for the 48 hours we were without electricity.

On a side note, not only did I come up with the idea for Domain Originator during the storm, I also jotted down on a legal pad about a hundred new "Incredible" names to add to my incredible domain portfolio. I'll share two names with you,and the reasoning behind them;

IncredibleBees(.)com
IncredibleHoney(.)com

First, I'd like to mention that I've done a lot of research on the word "incredible", and it turns out it's used all over the world to describe everything from "kids" to "love" to "art". I don't own any of these domains, but I do own about 25 similar "incredible" names.

Back to "Bees" and "Honey". My pastors wife raises honey bees, and during the storm some of their beehives were damaged. There have been a few documentaries done on the importance of "Bees" and it's a well known fact that bees are so critical to our ecosystem the world wouldn't survive without them. Thus, IncredibleBees. And to compliment IncredibleBees, IncredibleHoney just goes with the territory.

Finally, to originate names like this and sit on them for years and hope and pray someone might want them is an exercise in futility imho. I haven't registered either of these names yet, but when I do, I have a plan for how to market them.

Thanks Bob.....come Wednesday October 17th, Canada will see some IncredibleHigh(s).com. How do you think this will impact tourism from around the world? Doobie Diners and Taco Juana(s) should be packed

Can you share your current ROI so far ?

 

[JayT]

While it's no big deal, it does appraise for more at GD than most of the typical domain names. Trust me, there are a lot of them

I don't think the GD appraisal means anything. I think you should stop thinking about automated appraisals all together. Don't give them an ounce of thought...

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I don't think the GD appraisal means anything. I think you should stop thinking about automated appraisals all together. Don't give them an ounce of thought...

No JayT....Go Daddy's appraisals act as a selling tool for me. While they may not impress you, I know for a fact they impress "non domainers" and potential investors. I'm not trying to sell my domains to other domainers, but rather to business persons like myself. Here are five reasons why GD appraisals are good for sales;

1. Go Daddy is the most recognizable name in the industry
2. Go Daddy provides "comparable" sales for their appraisals
3. Go Daddy provides other reasons for their appraisals like; "High Value Word", "Easy to Remember" etc.
4. Go Daddy makes it easy to access it's appraisal system
5. While just a third of my domains are registered at Go Daddy, I've made the decision to originate future names for resale at Go Daddy because it adds to my credibility.

Finally, I use to own a medical billing business and the software my partner developed/created ran on IBM hardware to include a IBM System36 and IBM PC's when they first came out. Even though we weren't a reseller for IBM hardware at the time, it added a whole lot to our credibility when we were selling our service to end users. Go Daddy and Go Daddy's appraisals service the same purpose as the name IBM did when marketing.

Does this make any sense to you JayT? I know I'm not the only one that gets it, but some people just can't see the forest for the trees

 

[golan]

inb4, "i registered incredible originator dot com" thread

 

[carob]

Ok folks I am a Domain Terminator. I grab them tight and then they drop.

Well I was going to say "I'll be back" but I'm not, I'm unsubscribing from this thread because it is will be just another rerun of the endless competition of "I'm a better domainer than you." No money in that.

 

[xynames]

It really doesn't matter what you think, but what my customers and end users think.

Okay so now we know how you define this term “domain originator.”

How do you define the word “customer” in that you have yet to sell a single domain?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Okay so now we know how you define this term “domain originator.”

How do you define the word “customer” in that you have yet to sell a single domain?

A "customer" is like a chiropractor who has purchased three domains from me, a realtor who has purchased two domains from me, and a mortgage originator who is a friend and investor.

Why would you tell a bold faced LIE xynames? Does it make you feel like more of a man to do that in cyberspace? Stay tuned

 

[xynames]

https://www.namepros.com/threads/tr...tion-justify-ntld.1085650/page-2#post-6759680

https://www.namepros.com/threads/tr...tion-justify-ntld.1085650/page-2#post-6759824

 

[ThatNameGuy]

https://www.namepros.com/threads/tr...tion-justify-ntld.1085650/page-2#post-6759680

https://www.namepros.com/threads/tr...tion-justify-ntld.1085650/page-2#post-6759824

So you're a lawyer parsing words from over four months ago. You should really know better, but I would like to thank you for the publicity. Maybe you should sue me

 

[NYJimbo]

So you're a lawyer parsing words from over four months ago. You should really know better, but I would like to thank you for the publicity. Maybe you should sue me

So you admitted 4 months ago you have yet to sell one domain.Okay, now you hint that something changed in the past 4 months ? Fine, but until you post the name of one domain you have sold in the past 4 months, nobody should take you or your "stratagies" seriously.

Additionally, when people post some criticism of your techniques, it is not "publicity". I really don't know why you start these threads, only to be proven to have bad ideas and you still have no proof of any sales.

Until you post ONE sale with the usual info, you are just hand regging for fun. Nothing different than the guy who comes here with a dozen terrible domains and learns nothing about the business.

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ps: "So I'm a Domain Originator similar to a Mortgage Originator. I create internet domain names for .coms etc. " - Not the same thing at all.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

That way you can create your own dictionary too and call yourself word-originator..!! A person who creates word.

IMO Any kind of creation would be justified only when it benefits a person..!!

There is no pride in creating something new unless it fulfills a purpose..!!

So, ask yourself, what purpose are those 1500 domains serving currently?!?

Doesn't matter whether you are a domainer or domain investor or domain originator..Are you a domain seller?? Do your domain sells?? Because in the long term, we all are here for this specific purpose..!!

Oh trust me....ALL my domains serve a purpose like IncredibleFlorida(.)com that was a spin from IncredibleIndia.com that's in use and is appraised at GD for $7,264. You are from India aren't you? I understand Florida is not India, but it's economy is almost as big. btw, I've asked myself "what purpose those 1,500 domains are serving currently"? Everything I do fulfills a purpose Satyajit....just not your purpose

 

[JB Lions]

Everything I do fulfills a purpose

I'm not looking at dropping all my domains at year end, but maybe 75-80%.

So out of your 1,500 names, you'll drop about 1,200.

 

[NYJimbo]

Oh trust me....ALL my domains serve a purpose like IncredibleFlorida(.)com

I ran a check using the 50 US states. You can still register 41 of them with your "incredible" prefix. How many did you hand reg ? Nine ?

Interesting that after more than 30 years, any "domain originator" could have bought them, yet these domains are still available, its almost like nobody seems to care.

That's just.... incredible.....

 

[ecalc]

June 21, 2018:

Milt Martin, developer and investor bought FirstCarMemories.com for $2,500

source
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September 16, 2018:

I own the domain FirstCarMemories(.)com

source

bow wow wow

 

[BrandPlease]

"Credit Control Corporation", "Inquisitor Investigations", "Make Something Happen". These are real names of real companies that I started, named, bought, sold or merged."

Did you have have a website for any of these companies? If so, what domain name was used? it doesnt appear any of the quoted (in .com) were ever developed into a real site? Looks like a generic wordpress theme got added to makesometinghappen in 2014 - but never a real site.

Just curious.

 

[BrandPlease]

Good News as well, after 30 years of owning makesomethinghappen - there is no trade mark on it, so you can get it protected: Looks like the previous TM holders all abandoned it.

 

[JayT]

GD appraisal seems to be a common topic here. Can we please stop citing it...like, as a community? Lowly domainers rely on these appraisals to try selling domains for the low x,xxx appraisal value while spamming potential endusers via email.

Personally, I'd like to sell my domains for high xx,xxx, and wouldn't particularly like a buyer citing an automated appraisal, as if it has any reasoning or reliability for determining value. However, as long as domainers are citing these appraisal tools, we're suggesting these tools reflect shred of reality to the value of a domain. It's hurting US ALL more than anything.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

"Credit Control Corporation", "Inquisitor Investigations", "Make Something Happen". These are real names of real companies that I started, named, bought, sold or merged."

Did you have have a website for any of these companies? If so, what domain name was used? it doesnt appear any of the quoted (in .com) were ever developed into a real site? Looks like a generic wordpress theme got added to makesometinghappen in 2014 - but never a real site.

Just curious.

I'm not going to spend much time humoring you DnameAgame, but each one of these business I started, named and operated from their beginning. Credit Control Corporation I founded in Virginia Beach, Virginia in 1973, and sold it in 1985 before the first .com. Here it is today; http://www.credcontrol.com/. When I sold it, it was doing 500K in revenues annually and the owner who is still a friend 33 years later is doing 10 Million in fee revenue annually. I came up with name in 1973, and if there were an internet then, I surely would have had a registered domain. Moving on to Inquisitor Investigations...i started that business in 1978 and sold the assets of that business to a competitor in 2008. I had a website for that business, but frankly I don't know what happened to it, however I still renew it every year because I believe it's a great name. Finally, I originated the name MakeSomethingHappen at Network Solutions Septermber 1, 2001 a little over 17 years ago. I never developed the name, however my wife and I have been using it for our personal email addresses for the past 17+ years, and it's appraised at GD for $2,922.

With regards to trademarking "MakeSomethingHappen", I never had a desire to do so, however I have trademarked other names before I ever learned about DdomainGame.

Anything else you want to know just send me a PM and I'll be glad to humor you. Who knows, you may even learn something from the old fart who has been in the name business since probably before you were born. Go ahead...knock yourself out