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Within the past 48 hours it came to light that there were some very high end adult domain names being sold on DNF that were in fact stolen. I wont post them here as they may be inappropriate, but a substantial amount of money appears to have been lost (upwards of several hundred thousand). Please be advised to conduct due diligence when buying domain names!

Justin
 
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Spade said:
Within the past 48 hours it came to light that there were some very high end adult domain names being sold on DNF that were in fact stolen.

Yikes! D-:

Thanks for the heads up, Justin ... we don't need any of that drama around these parts! :blink: :imho:
-Jeff B-)
 
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Cheers for the heads up Spade. It seems that such things are happening on a much larger scale and more frequently than they used too.
 
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peter@flexiwebhost said:
Cheers for the heads up Spade. It seems that such things are happening on a much larger scale and more frequently than they used too.

And Involving former NP members....
 
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I dont understand how people are stealing domain names to begin with. Are they hacking into accounts or what? They should be locked up imho.
 
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Broker said:
I dont understand how people are stealing domain names to begin with. Are they hacking into accounts or what? They should be locked up imho.

Most commonly, I believe, they are paying with stolen accounts and/or reversing charges. Not only PayPal too, I've been checking some of these hackers sites and they list stolen bank account info too. Anything that is worth any good amount of money has to be escrowed these days.
 
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GreenGambler said:
Most commonly, I believe, they are paying with stolen accounts and/or reversing charges. Not only PayPal too, I've been checking some of these hackers sites and they list stolen bank account info too. Anything that is worth any good amount of money has to be escrowed these days.

In this case it appears to be hacked emails.
 
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Spade said:
In this case it appears to be hacked emails.
Yep, that was the case. It happened to be a Gmail account. Here are some security measures to take while buying a domain from any entity. http://www.dotweekly.com/2008/03/08/security-measures-to-take-when-buying-a-domain-name/

Even if you are buying a domain listed on a service like SnapNames.com and the whois shows "Senior Account Rep Snapnames.com" means that it's a user submitted domain and still could be a stolen domain. Afternic.com, TDNAM.com, eBay.com, Sedo.com etc all could be places stolen domains can be listed for sale, so do not think just because a domain is listed on one of these sites, that you are "safe".

If you have your account at a registrar, I stronly suggest you use a domain for your email and that email address on your registrar account.

Also, 9MM was in the master mind of this and he was or is a member HERE! I am not fully sure if that is his user name here a not?
 
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Yofie said:
Also, 9MM was in the master mind of this and he was or is a member HERE! I am not fully sure if that is his user name here a not?
Yes, same username 9MM

His NP's account is suspended and i remember seeing his account closed 2 or 3 times before.
 
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9MM was permanently banned a few weeks back.
 
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he was on DNF a week or so ago.. also was a mod at Nameslot.. I questioned their choice and was contacted by another mod (np member) who was going to make the owners aware.. not sure what happened after that.. I knew something was fishy with him the first 10 mins he joined ..was in chat and myself and another member i remember Pm'd each other questioning his motives
 
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Ok, so let me ask this then: Say you buy a domain and you use an escrow service. Are you protected, or are you at risk of your investment, i.e. could you lose the domain you bought with the escrow service without getting your money back?
 
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EG.domains said:
Yes, same username 9MM

His NP's account is suspended and i remember seeing his account closed 2 or 3 times before.

:td:
I almost conducted a mid $XXX sale with him!

Im glad he was banned before I could finish!
 
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XJ said:
Ok, so let me ask this then: Say you buy a domain and you use an escrow service. Are you protected, or are you at risk of your investment, i.e. could you lose the domain you bought with the escrow service without getting your money back?

Correct. If a domain is stolen and the original registrant files grievance with the registrar. The registrar May take the domain name back. Always make sure you use due diligence in making sure who ever is selling you the domain names, actually owns it.

Justin
 
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XJ said:
Ok, so let me ask this then: Say you buy a domain and you use an escrow service. Are you protected, or are you at risk of your investment, i.e. could you lose the domain you bought with the escrow service without getting your money back?
Nothing is ever 100% safe. You can use escrow and if the domain you purchased was stolen, yes, you will lose the domain, because the rightful owner did not sell it to you and it's also likely you will NOT get your money back either. Here is a recent story of when this happened. It's stated at the bottom of the story about not getting the money back.

Now each case would be unique via Escrow, but you will NOT get your money back most of the time. At times, you can get your money back, but it can be after a very long period of time.

If you are the Seller, the money will be protected the most. So when you are selling, Escrow is near 100% safe route to go.
 
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I was just wondering is all this scamming recent or has it been around? I recently started domaining in late November. I don't remember seeing all these scams back then, but over the past month or so I've heard about alot of people being scammed.
 
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unclewalter said:
I was just wondering is all this scamming recent or has it been around? I recently started domaining in late November. I don't remember seeing all these scams back then, but over the past month or so I've heard about alot of people being scammed.
http://www.out-law.com/page-1630

Story from 2001, for Properties.com .
 
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