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WARNING: SEVERAL STOLEN NAMES, MUST READ!

Located in Warnings and Alerts started by TheLegendaryJP, Sep 12, 2016.

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  1. TheLegendaryJP

    TheLegendaryJP Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    UPDATE: Happy to report one of the stolen names I was helping with has been recovered!

    If the owner is ok with it I would post it here but that is up to them.

    Hopefully more names will follow, I am sure they will.
     
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  2. TheLegendaryJP

    TheLegendaryJP Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    OSOS.com CONFIRMED STOLEN as well, owner is seeking recovery, do NOT buy on Russian domain forum. There is clearly a problem on that forum which allows stolen names to be sold, the loser will ultimately be the buyers.
     
  3. CursedToast

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    How are domains generall stolen? Chargebacks?
    I'm assuming that's why Escrow is used for pricer transactions.
     
  4. CursedToast

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    This sounds like a simplistic and fun project. Would be happy to work with you or at least provide ideas on submissions/verfication
     
  5. Chrislclawson

    Chrislclawson New Member

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    This guy stole my domain lgy.io 2 days after I registered it. I know it's the same person because his contact data was same as above until he hid it. His story was he bought it, when he could not provide any proof. It was not sold as I had just registered it, and he used a godaddy account. Godaddy refused to close his account and return the domain I rightfully bought and had just spent $59 dollars on. They said we cannot go into his account and return your property. The least they could have done is shut him down for fraud.
     
  6. TheLegendaryJP

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    Sorry to hear this :( I would demand they look at the IP that accessed your account to transfer and when it comes back Russian, bingo!
     
  7. wwwweb

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    @Joe Styler this is alarming, 2 day after you bought it?
     
  8. Rafimus

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    My domain name was stolen by this guy too on the 11th may last year. I can prove it easily. This domain name was ours since 1998!!!
    I filed a complaint to the police in France. The only problem is that they have no action out of France, but they admitted Khramov is the thief, and all the proofs are in the file I gave them. I recognized his picture too (on your link with the name Bassta), he had it on his facebook profile at a time, I don't know if he still uses it.
    I know how he did this and I tracked him easily, so he's not very intelligent nor very good. Just a basic scammer with no brains. He buys some cheap domain names and when he can, he also use them to steal. That's what he did with my domain name "harmonie.net". I don't think he's intelligent enough to break security passwords. He's not even intelligent enough not to be tracked down, thinking that using an encrypted contact e-mail address and a false name (Alibabaievitch! How credible! and your registrar doesn't even find it sleazy...) would be enough not to be found...
    I didn't filed the complaint to the ICANN since the system is completely unfair. You have to pay an expensive price(which is difficult for me), then you have to prove that you'd been stolen (which is very easy for me), and once they give you your domain name back, you can't complain against nobody, and this, I can't admit. This guy is a thief and I don't see no reason why I shouldn't sue him, and my registrar didn't make their job, they should be responsible for checking transfers with the owner.
    The only thing I don't understand is there's nowhere I found my name for sell, it would have been my best chance to have it back for free.
    I've also been in contact with Ricardo Baretzky, president of Cyberpol, whom I know for other purposes, and they know him,as he's been closely watched upon for some months.
    The guy has a facebook profile, a LinkedIn profile, says he works for Katod in Magnitogorsk, and he pretends to be an internet expert and that he can help people to help them find scammers(!!!) on several russian forums...
    He's got plenty of know e-mail address, not just st......amovatgmail
    You'll find him on this o001oo russian forum among other, where he sells his domain names
    No hope to have nothing from the registrar, they just said evrything was done the right way, but they never informed me of any changes, and never ask the guy no proof of identity!!! When I wanted to change my contact e-mail address they asked me a letter and a copy of my passport, but to change the owner and the registrar they didn't ask anything!!
    What can we do to have our property back, shall we all go to Magnitogorsk?
     
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  9. TheLegendaryJP

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    About 2-3 weeks ago this Russian sent out a new sales list to a handful of buyers (several Chinese) with drastically reduced pricing. All of the names mentioned on the list were mentioned here already. I certainly hope people are not greedy enough to ignore the warnings.

    Also member 1john2004 has mentioned in this thread....

    https://www.namepros.com/threads/osos-com-llll-confirmed-stolen.979720/#post-5798847

    The auction

    https://sedo.com/auction/auction_de...2&auction_id=213251&origin=search&language=us

    Avoid osos.com at Sedo it is stolen and is not yet recovered, guess what, seller is Russian!

    I have contacted sedo support and Dave Evanson asking that the auction be stopped and account banned, how can they possibly support the trafficking of stolen names!


    "Dave its Josh, see attached links, Osos.com is a stolen name, I suggest sedo stop the auction, ban the account and users IP etc. The community is watching. Unless sedo can confirm with Russell Steele (see whois history) name was recovered and he is selling it, unlikely as he is not Russian, Id cease.

    https://www.namepros.com/threads/warning-several-stolen-names-must-read.971376/page-4#post-5874596

    https://www.namepros.com/threads/osos-com-llll-confirmed-stolen.979720/#post-5874580"
     
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  10. TheLegendaryJP

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    Dave Evanson was very quick to reply and has passed it along, many thanks to him!
     
  11. TheLegendaryJP

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  12. Kenny

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    Sold through GD.
    Perhaps @Joe Styler could chime in here.

    Peace,
    Cyberian
     
  13. TheLegendaryJP

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    That would be great Cy, so far getting the thief cut off at flippa, sedo, forums and while at it Godaddy should step up as well now and join the ban parade.

    Sure they can reopen accounts under other names but doing so and affecting whois will make it harder/longer to move the names.
     
  14. Joe Styler

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    Theo had reached out to me and we took steps to ban the thief from our platforms including Afternic.
     
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    Thanks Joe :)

    JP, Theo, and everyone else that steps up to quell as much of this as possible.

    Peace,
    Cy
     
  17. TheLegendaryJP

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    UPDATE:

    Several of these names continue to be listed or offered for sale. My only advice to everyone is be careful what you buy. How many of these names resold since this thread 2 years ago I do not know but the risk is not worth the reward. Economically and ethically I advise to stay clear. My hope is any platform besides the 3 already mentioned continue to block/ban the sale of these names if the ownership still shows the thieves. Time does NOT heal a domain theft, it IS a hot potato.
     
  18. Avtar629

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    For people with large inventories how can this even be discovered that their domains we're stolen? How does this happen? Is it a hacked email or just a domain transferred internally in a registrar. If the latter, how can this be done without email confirmation?

    I just don't get it and I worry I probably stolen domains.

    I get tons of emails I accidentally open or open thinking it's legit.

    I hear just opening can get you infected by a virus.

    I imagined a scenario where a hacker gains access of my PC or email address and deleting domain registration receipts and doing a transfer and just deleting the emails pertaining to that domain.

    Plus if a domain is transferred internally within a registrar Hosterstats won't show the domain was "transferred" the usual "red flag" your domain was stolen.

    Many times I've done a quick whois check (instead of accessing my registrar) to see if I owned a domain or know I own it and just want to quick check when it will expire only to find out I don't own it. Then ask "didn't I reg this?". Then check my email and filter search for the domain and no records show up.

    9 times out of 10 I just chalk it up as "I guess I was mistaken." But with threads like this. I'm not so sure anymore.

    Can someone explain in detail how exactly these thieves get away with this undetected? Or is it always detectable eventually?

    The worse thing is getting a domain stolen and never ever finding out and they keep stealing from you.

    I assume these thieves target target people with large inventories.
     
  19. TheLegendaryJP

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    @Avtar629

    A lot of info is available on how these thing happen and the remedies available. I will try to answer in short form your questions.

    Theft can be done via phone, email, hacking of passwords etc.
    Do they always get away with it, no and I as well as many others here like @Acroplex can testify to such.
    What can you do to protect yourself is common sense really, a good defensive approach such as avoiding phishing attempts, 2 factor ID, do not use free email, good passwords, do not let a name drop you used for email on a domain ownership etc etc etc.
    End of day you MUST be willing to not blindly buy, do your diligence, research ownership, look for red flags.

    Not ever name or even most will be recovered but EVERYONE is a target, large or small portfolio owners.

    Thieves operate in many ways but we here at Namepros know their moves, they are limited and obvious.

    Hope this helps a bit but there is so many details I have not mentioned I recommend researching cases and reading more stolen threads. Owning a stolen domain is a risk and ethically wrong, period.

    Take care
     

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