Verisign Review

[ThatNameGuy]

Rich, it's so sad that after 3.5 years you don't understand why it's perfectly reasonable to put these pricetags on these .com domains.

You can't even coherently explain what the key issue is in your mind. Are you upset that good .com domains are so expensive? Or are you upset that other extensions aren't desired by end users?

Verisign's comments were self-serving... They just want to be able to charge more for registrations. What's your ultimate goal?

"Verisign's comments were self-serving"

Yes they were Joe, but they were spot on As a self proclaimed Wistleblower I call 'em as I see 'em, and comments like these ; "there is also an unregulated secondary market - led by domain speculators - hiding in plain sight. Some domain speculators buy domain names at regulated low prices, then sell them at far higher prices. Even traditional registrars like Go Daddy/Afternic and Huge Domains have become big players in the secondary market and hold large portfolios of domain names for resale. Go Daddy and Huge Domains are not the only ones profiting from .com price caps. Domain speculation, or "domain scalping" as some call it has become a highly profitable industry unto itself. Flipping domain names or warehousing them to create scarcity adds nothing to the industry and merely allows those engaged in this questionable practice to enrich themselves at the expense of consumers and businesses" are proof

Joe...if you want to have a meaningful conversation with me about why I believe .online is a viable alternative to .com let's intelligently address Verisigns comments about the industry. Then after we do that, let's address and discuss my personal experience involving Go Daddy/Afternic and the "secondary market" where I've learned the industry is as unethical and CORRUPT as they come.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I would love to listen in on a .com V .online domain debate between @Joe N + @bmugford And you + some of your business peers.

Could this be arranged? Do you need a format or predetermind topics to study/prepare stats/numbers/thoughts on?

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Grilled....i guess Verisign will need to be on my side of the debate since they're the ones who trashed the aftermarket of the domain industry. I know they realize the mistake they made, but it's too late to take back statements like;

"There is also an unregulated secondary market - led by domain speculators - hiding in plain sight,"

"The secondary market has expanded in ways that exploit consumers"

"Even traditional registrars like Go Daddy have become big players in the secondary market, and there's nothing in GoDaddy's public filings about the profits, but GoDaddy claims it's domain name portfolio is worth $2.5 billion"

Bottomline, Verisign was calling Go Daddy and the secondary market it represents a bunch of crooks. Anyone else see it that way?.....i do, and I have now experienced first hand their crooked ways much to the chagrin of my critics.

Finally Grilled...you speak of "deflection", which is btw an integral part of Debate101. It appears to me Joe is every bit as good at using the art of deflection as you consider me to be.

Finally, the word "deflection" is a fabulous word. So much so that someone should use it as a domain if it's available

 

[Lox]

Grilled....i guess Verisign will need to be on my side of the debate since they're the ones who trashed the aftermarket of the domain industry.

In order to understand the VS role related to the secondary market... you need to go wayback:

1994 GreatDomains.com pioneered the secondary market
2000 Verisign acquires GreatDomains.com
2007 Sedo acquires GreatDomains.com from VeriSign

Before Verisign

Verisign

Sedo

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Lox, do you mean the Love/Hate relationship? Please share from your perspective. With .online poised to be an affordable alternative to overpriced secondary domains, how do you see that impacting Verisign? Unlike you, I don't see both .online and .com going up in value? Thanks