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Has anyone used undeveloped.com to sell domains? They claim to be able to increase a domainers sales by 54%.
working fine for me, but their DNS is WAY TOOOO SLOWWW ! Site's take like 5 seconds just to load the landing page.. totally unacceptable. I'm planning on moving my complete portfolio to another landing solution, Undeveloped has been feeling like that girl at the club, that looks nice from a distance but when you see her in daylight, you regret every moment of being with her.
Hi Aje, does Undeveloped allow you handle leads and follow -up yourself, or is it hidden??i sold a domain through undeveloped, it was a very smooth and itch free transactions all through.
big ups to Undeveloped
their DNS is WAY TOOOO SLOWWW
That question wasn't address to me but I will answer it anyway.Hi Aje, does Undeveloped allow you handle leads and follow -up yourself, or is it hidden??
sure , the interface allow you and your leads to communicateHi Aje, does Undeveloped allow you handle leads and follow -up yourself, or is it hidden??
Undeveloped certainly needs to refine your search function again.
One cannot even search for 4 L domains (will be forced to select 4-5 L)
and cannot remove dashes and numbers, so they 'll get a bunch of meaningless domains like a5eq.com etc
Hi Asfas,
Good point. We've already got that improvements of the search in the roadmap. One small note though. Our existing search is designed for end-users that already know what they're looking for. Most of the time they use one or two queries that we now bring together with a real search engine backend (sfinx) and return good matches for.
The feature function you're referring to is more helpful to resellers who are in the market for liquide domains. For them we'll use our curated pages better in the future by making pre-selected lists for you. For example a curated page with our best 200 llll.com's. You as a seller can also make your own lists in the near future. The good lists we'll then promote across our network.
But again point taken. There's indeed room for improvements there.
This is what I highlighted to Reza few moments ago. The search functionality is really pathetic and unworthy of being called SEARCH.
Reza, you shouldn't really dictate terms about who buys the domain, an enduser or a reseller/domainer. Domainers keep the market alive and I see no problem as long as a sale is being made between a seller and a buyer. Like I just mentioned to you in DM also, it seems you haven't worked on the search functionality AT ALL and need MUCH IMPROVEMENT there. The curated list is a personal idea and your curated list can differ from mine. Instead you can allow every account to mark their top 2/5/10 domains and allow a search filter to list only these top domains. I have myself looked to buy domains from Undeveloped but I couldn't find any search functionality to discover anything. You could take an inspiration from search functionality of ExpiredDomains.net and I had be happy if you could only implement 10% of it at the outset. With that much, yours can be a wonderful company.
I don't agree. When 99% of all our sales are to end-users and the focus of Undeveloped is to connect your domains to end-users we need to prioritize our product development to items that actually improve the main KPI's we've set as a team.
If we lose focus and start servicing too many target groups we can't make progress. The reseller market is real and big but is also very saturated. You have a plethora of companies like Namejet servicing that market already.
So I don't dictate who buys a domain or not but I do have a focus and a value proposition for our users that prefer selling to end-users well.
I hope that clarifies our position.
Kind regards,
Reza
Well, that's just a suggestion. Endusers and Resellers are not as simple as black and white, they overlap as well and many domainers are endusers.
Now say if I have to buy a good name and, without a good search functionality, I will have to spend 2 hours 'hunting' a domain at Undeveloped. With a good search functionality, my work may be done in 15 minutes. Now because there is no search functionality at all, I don't really care visiting Undeveloped. So, you are loosing a customer there. If a seller has his domain set for sale at $5000, what difference does it make to you who buys it as long as someone is ready to pay the price? How does your endusers vs resellers theory help you there in your biz?
Namejet and Flippa are AUCTION PLATFORMS, it would be unjust to compare yourself with them. When you mention doing biz with only ENDUSERS, I would like to understand what you do about it? Does your team find and call potential endusers or simply rely on incoming search traffic for a sale to be made?
I can guarantee you that we hardly sell domains to resellers, there are a couple of reasons for that and one of them is that we strongly focus on end-users only.
Like I mentioned in the private message between us, for example adding a filter for domain age will in most cases yield worse conversion instead of to improving it. Just to name one simple example, newly registered domains or simply expired and drop catched domains will become less prominent if we go in that route.
You currently use Uniregistry for example. If I search for the same query you mentioned "Apps" I don't see them returning better results than us. We use exact match, which is the industry standard. If there's no exact match available we proceed and look for a similar as possible domain and rank them for you.
Namejet was just an example I mentioned. We've identified all end-users acquisition channels and make sure that you're converting every single end-user that's in the market for your name. We don't rely on search traffic on our homepage for sales.
We focus on optimizing our organic channels of buyer acquisition and distribution.
A: We continuously track all buyers and what they eventually do with the domains to further enhance our buyer persona. That's how I know they're end-users. If you claim you'd lose sales to resellers because our search isn't optimally working according to your standards (again our search is effective enough), on what do you base that?
If we'd build every single feature request you'd end up with an extremely poor product and marketplace that doesn't benefit anyone.
Q: That's correct but Uniregistry is a registrar as well and Frank Schilling is associated with it. He has a face value in the domain world. Their traffic ranking is much above yours. Not to say that I am their fan though.
A: So because Frank Schilling has face value for you, you won't have the same standards for Uni's search performance as ours? Honestly, I can't observe their search being better than ours. They use direct match, just like we do.
Because you claimed above that you guarantee that only endusers buy your domains.
As a seller, I am going to lose out on potential buyers. I have highlighted this already.
"Say I list a domain with you for $5000. How do I care who buys the domain as long as they pay the price? But with you and your platform insisting on not allowing resellers for my domain to be found, by not improving the search functionality, I would be losing many potential buyers there."
As a buyer, with your barebones search, I am unable to find BIN listings that I might pay for and this is a loss to your clients who own the domains that may otherwise be sold.
It's not every single feature request that is being asked here. Just a suggestion or two on search that may help people find good BIN listings with your platform. You can not in any way stop people from buying the BIN listing so what's the whole point? To know in how many numerous ways the search functionality can be provided, please visit ExpiredDomains.net and see for yourself.
I am not implying that Uniregistry Search is BETTER than yours. I have already noted that I am not a Uniregistry fan. I responded to you because you asked me to use your platform. They are a registrar as well so there is no comparison with them for you at the moment. Also I have already said that their TRAFFIC ranking is much ahead of yours.
That said, I rest my case. It's really up to you what to do with your product/website.
We still disagree on some points but that's fair. Thanks anyway for your feedback. It's always good to know how potential customers perceive Undeveloped. Progress is an iterative process so in the end this helps.