.mobi .TV and the Mobile Internet Revolution

[satsdifference.com]

I think of .TV as family to .mobi, in that it is an alternate extension to the .com domination that exists today.. and the hope of tomorrow..

I have high hopes for my Interfaith.tv

How much can the world view .tv as the video extension as well or will it be more popular as the television extension for live broadcast productions?

We need to associate with the mobile internet revolution that will shake the world.. and I think television/video on the mobile phone will be the instrument.. the #1 human entertainment experience on the mobile phone..
..one day, even domain names like spiritual.name might have television/video on it.. seemingly "every" site with possibly television/video on it..

So that means, there is a short window of great opportunity, when the mobile phone births the television/video human experience, for .tv names to shine..

Are there any .tv sites that "device detect" a mobile accessing device and render (redirect) to a mobile site version yet?

.TV and the mobile internet revolution!

What are your thoughts?


Kind Regards,

Yelo

 

[TheBulldog]

Realistically, coding a site to recognize mobile is the same as any other extension.....and I hate to say it, mainly because it is pretty much fighting words for mobi people.....but as an avid user of my cell phone, I am ten times more likely to choose a short extension, like tv, versus a long one like mobi. What genious thought that making a longer extension was going to appeal to to people using a cell phone keypad?

That being said, if I wanted to push a website for cell phones, I would choose the tv extension hands down simply because it will appeal more to the geek in everyone that wants "tv" or rich media on their cell phones. Plus, there are a ton of short brandable names left in tv versus mobi.

I see a lot of winninglotterynumbers.mobi. Now what end user of a cell phone is going to try and type in that long mess versus lotto.tv on their keypad?

 

[hawkeye]

I see a lot of winninglotterynumbers.mobi. Now what end user of a cell phone is going to try and type in that long mess versus lotto.tv on their keypad?

uhh...the ones that don't use lotto.mobi??? Don't get the analogy.

 

[TheBulldog]

Sorry the point was that on a cell phone, I am not going to type in some long name. But I see in the mobi section that people are regging this type/quality of name all the time thinking it is actually viable that someone would bother to type it in.

The second point I was making was that from a perspective of someone who uses a cell phone, I would much rather go to or use a shorter extension and most certainly a shorter name if I am going to take the time to poke it into the keypad.

So I suppose what I am saying is that I would rather type lotto.tv then lotto.mobi. The first and easiest reason is that it is shorter. The second reason is that the tv sounds like a rich media site. The mobi, from an end user perspective not a domainer perspective, is not recognizeable. Joe Blow is always going to associate tv with media. Where as he will associate mobi, assuming he has heard the word, with a singer with mediocre music.

 

[freedom30]

Not to mention the fact that the letters TV have had over 50 years of positioning in the minds of those who basically grew up with the term(beats out .com by a few decades), which is why I see the extension reinserting itself into the net, sooner more than later.

just an opinion, for what its worth.

Anyway, very shortly you may be able to talk into your cellphone instead of wearing out the keypad. Think ahead, as everything changes and quite soon as of late!

 

[TheBulldog]

That's weird, I talk into my cellphone all the time now. You may be using yours wrong and I imagine your friends are sick of you phoning them up and just beeping at them.

 

[nrmillions]

Sorry the point was that on a cell phone, I am not going to type in some long name. But I see in the mobi section that people are regging this type/quality of name all the time thinking it is actually viable that someone would bother to type it in.

The second point I was making was that from a perspective of someone who uses a cell phone, I would much rather go to or use a shorter extension and most certainly a shorter name if I am going to take the time to poke it into the keypad.

So I suppose what I am saying is that I would rather type lotto.tv then lotto.mobi. The first and easiest reason is that it is shorter. The second reason is that the tv sounds like a rich media site. The mobi, from an end user perspective not a domainer perspective, is not recognizeable. Joe Blow is always going to associate tv with media. Where as he will associate mobi, assuming he has heard the word, with a singer with mediocre music.

so you would rather go to a .tv name on your phone when you dont even know how it will work or look on a phone than to go to an extension that will be 100% guaranteed to work and optimized for your phone? people can text message a whole paragraph in like 10 seconds, how long do you think it takes to type in 2 extra characters especially on a qwerty phone which is starting to become the standard. .mobi stands apart because it is at least made for a device and optimized for it. .tv will also do ok but there is nothing that makes it any different than a .com, you can view videos on both. there is no required standards for owning a .tv name that says it has to contain video content.

 

[TheBulldog]

So absolutely EVERY .mobi is guaranteed to work 100% on my phone? I seriously doubt that. I know there are checkers out there to validate, but I doubt very seriously there is a regulatory commission that green lights every single mobi before it is released to the general public.

Further, ask the general public what they think of the mobi extension...../crickets chirp
Then ask them about .tv....."Oh, you mean like Bud.tv?"

All I am saying, and this is just my opinion, is that I think the general public would be more likely to trust something called tv versus mobi. Don't get me wrong, I own a few mobi's. I do think it has it's place, but I am not the rabid fan of them the way others are. I just don't see it as the end all for mobile phones. Specifically for people who grew up with Television, and the only time we talked on the phone was in our house, not the subway.

 

[nrmillions]

So absolutely EVERY .mobi is guaranteed to work 100% on my phone? I seriously doubt that. I know there are checkers out there to validate, but I doubt very seriously there is a regulatory commission that green lights every single mobi before it is released to the general public.

Further, ask the general public what they think of the mobi extension...../crickets chirp
Then ask them about .tv....."Oh, you mean like Bud.tv?"

All I am saying, and this is just my opinion, is that I think the general public would be more likely to trust something called tv versus mobi. Don't get me wrong, I own a few mobi's. I do think it has it's place, but I am not the rabid fan of them the way others are. I just don't see it as the end all for mobile phones. Specifically for people who grew up with Television, and the only time we talked on the phone was in our house, not the subway.

Right now they are not regulating it completely to make sure everything is 100% mobile compliant but they are giving people time before they start shutting down sites. even parked .mobi pages are mobile compliant when viewed from a phone. i am not trying to sound anti .tv. i am also a fan of .tv and own some of those too, but i also like .mobi. you have to agree though that .mobi just came out like 8 months ago and .tv came out like 7 years ago so some people might have heard of .tv by now but not .mobi. Probably 90% of the general public still does not know that .tv exists yet even though its been around for so long. as television and video become more and more popular on mobile phones then .tv could also end up doing well in that area of the mobile web.

 

[-REECE-]

One thing we have to remember also about dotmobi -- it isn't known which medium will be used for accessing websites. It's possible that Yahoo and Microsoft merge and Microsoft integrates search into every browser making a couple extra letters (.mobi vs .tv) irrelevant. Consider also the possibility that future phones may default to .mobi or have other solutions in place to render accessing the mobile web less of an inconvenience.

I own antioxidants.mobi -- some would say, that's too long, it will never get type-ins. Maybe so. But it does rank first on Yahoo's OneSearch for the keyword 'antioxidants', beating out even big NBC... The domain name is one of the most important factors for SEO, so as long as there are search engines and directories around to provide people a convenient medium to search with, I shouldn't be disappointed with the results I obtain.

The way things are going, it doesn't seem there's any question at this point that .mobi sites providing relevant content -- properly developed and marketed will achieve at least modest success.

 

[scandiman]

So absolutely EVERY .mobi is guaranteed to work 100% on my phone? I seriously doubt that. I know there are checkers out there to validate, but I doubt very seriously there is a regulatory commission that green lights every single mobi before it is released to the general public.

In fact there is going to be a code compliance mandate. If a site doesn't meet specific criteria then it will be blocked. Last I heard it is coming around August or September.

Further, ask the general public what they think of the mobi extension...../crickets chirp

Of course it isn't widely known in the general public yet. That is a no brainer. Why does this keep being an issue for people about such a new tld that hasn't been much advertised yet? If you'd prefer to wait until it's mainstream to buy a quality .mobi that is your prerogative. Just prepare to pay a lot more than it costs today. Rather than being shocked that people don't know about .mobi you could instead introduce it to them by showing them a site like dir.mobi to give them a gateway to over 500 sites already listed.

All I am saying, and this is just my opinion, is that I think the general public would be more likely to trust something called tv versus mobi. Don't get me wrong, I own a few mobi's. I do think it has it's place, but I am not the rabid fan of them the way others are. I just don't see it as the end all for mobile phones. Specifically for people who grew up with Television, and the only time we talked on the phone was in our house, not the subway.

I have absolutely nothing against .tv but how does it relate to mobile? Are there any coding standards to make .tv mobile device friendly? What makes it more trustworthy?

 

[Traveler]

Sounds like you just really like .tv. Did you know there is a whole subforum dedicated to people just like you?

http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/

:p

Seriosly though, I don't really see your point. I don't see .tv having anything to do with the mobile web more or less so than the regular internet. I like .tv I think it sounds good and gives a person some idea of what they might find at the site. If I'm looking for mortgage rates, I wouldn't think of going mortgagerates.tv, on my cell it just wouldn't make any sense. On the other hand if I was looking for music videos, music.tv would make sense. I think .tv has it's place but it is a niche.

 

[movingconcierge]

I personally think .tv isn't great. That's not the same as saying you cannot make money at it. But, I've had very poor luck selling them. The renewals are high and their stability is actually in question. I'm out when it comes to .tv.

Good luck.

 

[garrett200]

All you have to do is compare the first 9 months of .tv with the first 9 months of .mobi, and you can see that there is no comparison.

 

[wot]

All you have to do is compare the first 9 months of .tv with the first 9 months of .mobi, and you can see that there is no comparison.

Hype v no hype , marketing v no marketing , potential usage v limited potential usage :gl:

 

[thinking1]

I think we are supposed to go to the .TV forum and bash .tv. That's what my gut is telling me.

 

[Jeff]

Hype v no hype , marketing v no marketing , potential usage v limited potential usage :gl:

Agree ... if anything, all of the unnecessary hype and inflated Asking prices for very average and undeveloped .MOBI's has given me new appreciation for the potential of the .TV extension and its future IMHO. :music:

Just my two sense.
-Jeff

I think we are supposed to go to the .TV forum and bash .tv. That's what my gut is telling me.

^ Now, why does this not surprise me?

 

[movingconcierge]

I don't think we need to bash anybody. I think we need to move threads dealing with .tv to the .tv forum and visa versa. Period.

 

[garrett200]

Jeff,

I'm not too sure the hype is unnecessary on .mobi. I think the market is driving the prices up because every day major corps are issuing press releases about their mobi sites. How often do you see that happening for .TV? I don't think .mobi's success has any correlation to .TV's in any way. It's apples and oranges....

 

[movingconcierge]

Are we really going to starting digging a divide now between .tv and .mobi? Is that were this is headed? Isn't there enough BS to deal with - with the dotComers et. al. Really now. Isn't there enough filler in this .mobi forum too already? Every time someone stubs their toe on a mobi in BFE someone reports on it.

How about this: .mobi is branded as mobile sites and .tv is branded as television and/or video sites. Different animals. Different companies and visions running the shows. Different demos buying, developing, and using.

Now just go develop or sell or whatever it is you are supposed to be doing right now.