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I want to point out a few things I have been observing lately regarding the 'right' direction one should take in monetizing/developing our .TV domains.

First off, ME.TV/ Demand Media. There are mixed opinions on the value they bring to the table with their platform and promotion of the .TV tld. Some are impatient to have new and more tools released for their ME.TV hosted domains. Some see no benefit in using the platform at all as they assume that if you leave the ME.TV platform, all your 'friends' would stay behind with ME.TV and not be exportable or capturable. And of course many feel the premium tagging of certain domains with the subsequent pricing associated actually slows the development of the .TV tld.

I want to say that so far I am impressed by what has happened in the last 23 days since the .TV relaunch. An untold number of new .TV registrations. To date 1455 ME.TV channels activated and probably double that number in the wings ready to flip the switch. Numerous premium sales. Numerous non-premium aftermarket sales, several in the $x,xxx range. Over 170,000 visitors to one .TV alone, CarsonDaly.TV. A lot going on in the press and I have even noticed member growth here in NamePros .TV forum with a lot of new faces. All because a $200 million media company put it's stamp on the .TV brand.

Even so, many seem to denounce Demand Media or are impatient with the speed in which they seem to move. I, like everyone else using the ME.TV platform, would like to see the release of V2.0 ASAP. But I can also see the other side of the coin when you are trying to create a stable platform and community for users and publishers. Release too soon with bugs and well you know that story already. Release tools or functions that can easily be hacked and now you have to hire a whole team of security and we all get spammed. If we want to monetize the ME.TV platform NOW, we need to figure out how to do it with the tools at hand, and that will just make us stronger marketers and relationship builders in the future with any additional tools coming down the pike. Hell, most of the people screaming for new tools have no idea how they will monetize their sites anyway. I keep seeing mention of Google Adsense (not in this forum) as people's solution to monetization.

Again, I place myself in the shoes of management over at DM, and knowing the aggregate experience there has already pulled off several successful online ventures not to mention MySpace, helps me to stay grounded and continuing to flip switches on new ME.TV sites as I have time. I write this today because I noticed a few trends with my sites and others hosted there, and also because some are showing impatience with new tool releases etc, nobody can blame them for that but.....with my sites I have seen a daily traffic trend starting an aggressive climb. Yesterday I sat at 1549 for total 23 day traffic, this AM at 10:30 AM it sat at 1747 and climbing. However I have seen a leveling off on 'friend additions' on my sites and the major site CarsonDaly.com. So so does this mean more traffic is coming in from search engines because of sites becoming indexed? Or are we just visiting each other's sites? Either way I see traffic increasing on a daily basis. I attribute that from being CarsonDaly.com friend number 300# or so? Anyway I threw a few up a few sites right away on May 1st and I believe that helped build this traffic trend and I don't belive it is too late to ride the coat tails of any other promotions DM and ME.TV has in mind. How many times in history can you potentially build wealth and help others do the same with a $25 investment and the help of a $200 million company who's entire existence is to make money from making profitable moves you can have a hand in. Example - is Hottys.TV worth more or less than the $25 I paid to register it?

"I want to keep all the friends I make on the ME.TV platform, collect more info on each of them and I want to be able to download the list and take it with me if I leave. If I can't do that then I will build my own site! Those Me.TV tools have a lot to be desired" Is this really practical, can you take your friends list with you with the MySpace platform or any other platform out their except for one you own personally. The legal ramifications of privacy issues alone are huge. I am not sure I want to even deal with that or have to hire an attorney for that purpose, however, I am sure that I want to be able to have a two way conversation with the relationships I have created through the ME.TV platform, just like we do on MySpace or any other social platform, that is the whole idea with social sites and so far I can do that with ME.TV, sans the ability to incorporate links, affiliate or otherwise, into my communications at this time. On the other side of the coin, what must DM be thinking, hmmm? "Of course we are going to give you that ability, but first we also want to make sure some schmo isn't going to hack your account and spam the 10,000 people in your friends list. We want you to be able to conduct commerce just like we want to be able to monetize our platform, we just have some bugs to work out or holes to close up first and frankly want to allow those folks that take this platform seriously that very option ASAP. How do we know you are serious? Well by the thought and effort that you put into your channel NOW, before you are given more powerful tools. How many videos do you have up, have you produced your own video intro for your site yet, have you started your blog, invited friends from within the network, are you using what has been given to you to build your site's traffic and friends list?" If I was DM/ME.TV, those are the factors I would be looking at and would be offering tools for the lowest common denominator to use and those that wanted more need to step up to the plate and ASK.

To those of you that are wanting and waiting for V2.0 tools, how many of you have actually done any/all of the following:

1. Actually activated and put up a ME.TV site and used all of the tools, all of them, not just the ones you think you want to use.

2. Visited the ME.TV forum at http://www.me.tv/forums and posted your own opinions or desires on or for the progress of ME.TV tools, management, etc. Has your voice been heard?

3. Communicated with ME.TV personnel, Richard Rosenblatt, Carson Daly or Quin Daly by email or through the messaging option on each .TV sites messaging feature?

4. Invited people from your personal contacts list or from other social site accounts you have to come visit or join/contribute to your new .TV channel?

Simple activities but certainly powerful enough to build your traffic, brand , reputation with DM and your channel. If you haven't used any of the tools you don't have much of a right to ask for more.

Premium tagging and pricing. I really have little opinion on this but sorta see it as fair from the standpoint that it gives anyone an equal chance to own the biggest and best keyword domain in this tld as long as DM/ENOM still holds it as an unregged premium. If you respond to this by giving me an argument that you can't afford the pricing or that it is priced too high, my belief is that either your own negotiation, partnering and capital raising skills or the market demand for a domain will determine the correct pricing for any .TV that has been marked premium. If you can't raise the cash or negotiate a price reduction for a premium .TV domain and someone else does they must have wanted it more than you, that is the market determining efficient pricing. If a month down the line DM/ENOM announce a lowering of prices for certain premium .TVs, that is the market determining efficient pricing. One thing I know for certain is this, the domains I have hand regged are worth far more than what I paid for them partially because of the premium model and premium renewals.

Finally, some .TV speculators want to cash out some of their top .TV domains and recoup some of their investment and they have every right to, so do I. I am sure that when the right offer comes along for one of my .TVs I will be happy to accept it and be glad to recieve some ROI on my trust in the .TV tld. But I am currently sensing seller weakness from those that want to "create and promote" other new outlets for their .TV portfolios including newly branded end user auctions, if I sense it/weakness, potential buyers will too. I believe these .TVers may jumping ahead of what looks to be an already naturally occuring upward sales/price trend for .TV no doubt initiated by the organic growth in online video and the efforts and promotion by DM/ENOM. Such a public auction, if not "professionally" promoted and conducted or successful, could help to "injure" this tld before the company who has millions at stake has brought out their "big guns" to complete their plans, 'whatever they may be'. I will hope that if a group follows through with their plans for such an auction they would try to get some feedback/buyin/assistance/leadership from DM/ENOM.

There, I'm done. I only wanted to bring some of these points up, hopefully to help us all focus on the progress made with .TV the last few months. We all have been waiting patiently, some much longer than others, for a critical mass to be reached which would mean more profit and success for any involved in .TV. I feel we are at a critical point where whatever direction we embark on could as easily be the end of any true success achievable with .TV .

Cheers!

WineGuy
 
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It's a very good article that you've written.

For some of my domains, I'm going to develop/modify/innovate my scripts.
For others, I'm going to leave it at me.TV platform, increase friends, get indexed on search engine, increase exposure and constantly update vids.
Me.TV imo is a great tool because everything is set up for you, and if you have a good name with good contents, you can bring in good traffic.
Best of all, you will get free space and bandwidth for your forum and blog!
 
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Raise a glass to wineguy!

Superb synopsis.

Thankyou
 
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Thanks scooby and mrdomainan!

Cheers!

WineGuy
 
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Wineguy

No thanks required. This is intelligent, well thought out, sound commercial rationale.

How can anyone not read and think so?

A must read for all .. .tv'ers
 
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But I am currently sensing seller weakness from those that want to "create and promote" other new outlets for their .TV portfolios including newly branded end user auctions, if I sense it/weakness, potential buyers will too. I believe these .TVers may jumping ahead of what looks to be an already naturally occuring upward sales/price trend for .TV no doubt initiated by the organic growth in online video and the efforts and promotion by DM/ENOM.

There is no seller weakness, its called creating an efficient marketplace that rises a step above a chatroom auction. Secondly I sense from many that they are only in .tv to sell Members such as DomainAcrobat have stated many times I have no interest in developing I am a reseller, I think Smash Factory's idea to ratchet it up a step makes sense and for those who participate great, those who don't great. I do not drink the kool aid that Demand Media is my friend, Demand Media is a private company with VC investors looking to take that company public and cash out, which is great that is my background and it makes perfect sense. But I am under no illusion that Demand Media is my partner. They have their agenda and everyone here has their separate and sometime shared agenda.

Nice commentary on the tools should help people new to ME.tv
 
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Cheers to wineguy! Excellent commentary!
 
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equity78 said:
There is no seller weakness, its called creating an efficient marketplace that rises a step above a chatroom auction. Secondly I sense from many that they are only in .tv to sell Members such as DomainAcrobat have stated many times I have no interest in developing I am a reseller, I think Smash Factory's idea to ratchet it up a step makes sense and for those who participate great, those who don't great. I do not drink the kool aid that Demand Media is my friend, Demand Media is a private company with VC investors looking to take that company public and cash out, which is great that is my background and it makes perfect sense. But I am under no illusion that Demand Media is my partner. They have their agenda and everyone here has their separate and sometime shared agenda.

Nice commentary on the tools should help people new to ME.tv

Excellent comment Equity.

Sometimes I get the impression that those who are only domainers as opposed to developers are looked down upon by those on high..........I enjoy both with equal passion - and would not want anyone telling me where or how or when isthe best time to sell or not to sell my domains unless I asked for that help - certainly to pretend I am part of some bigger .TV picture is ridiculous....I am here to make money - either domaining or developing or both..
As Equity says DM have their agenda and everyone here has their separate and sometime shared agenda.

If marketing DM and the extension is of such huge importance, and yet at the same time not share in congratulating those who have made a nice dot tv sale , (unlike most of the forum who were overjoyed that .TV was finally getting exposure on DN Journal) then keep noticeably quiet on the matter suggests a different agenda altogether.......

Those who wish to domain purely to profit from the extension shold continue to do so, and to have a discussion about whether to conduct an auction in this forum or outside of it could possibly result in hurting the extension itself is ludicrous......the extension and Demand Media is much bigger than that
 
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No matter which way you go, if you aren't making money, it's a hobby.


I have enough hobbies.
 
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hey mr. wineguy!
read your post- several times actually...you have some good points- .tv is a great tld. thats why we are all here :)

and i am thinking that .tv had the initial girder strength to handle all the new and wonderful ways we are working with to try and grow this tld even more.
like equity, i do not view demand media as my partner- richard rosenthall is not our friend and has a company to run because he is first and formost an entrepreneur- and he bought enom and his other companies to make money. as well he should.
but what if demand media falters - and when the cloud of excitment lifts, there really isnt much substance there as far as their offerings and tools or even the support? i think it is good to stretch our wings, and see how many roads we can open for ourselves for success.

i think the auction is going to bring some nice attention to .tv.- you see- my faith doesnt lie in demand media, it lies in .tv- i honestly believe in this tld. there will be other companies who will see what demand media is doing, and soon you will find a rash of development tool suites out there, one trying to out-do the other. "this" is the natural progession of .tv- i am not denouncing demand media, they have done a wonderful thing here- but i want choices- we need choices. can you imagine if network solutions was still the only game in town???

i think the only way to hurt .tv, is to not push .tv to the limits- to not run with it and give it the room and the opportunites to shine in many different lights- only then will it show just how versitile and robust it is.
 
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WOW! Great Rant Wineguy; Cab or merlot induced?

First, I've read through this several tiumes, and I do not see where wineguy called DM our "Partner", so not sure where that criticism is coming from.

As much as I HATE premium renewal fees, I do kick myself for not picking up a few gems in the 70% off days.... Great speculation and big cajones to those that did. There was a tremendous amount of stress on the boards, worry, angst, and bashing during that time frame through the purchase of the rights to retail TV by DM. I spent hours talking with Equity at the time and I still stand firm in my belief that, DemandMedia is GOOD for .TV and those invested in the the extension. I agree with you wineguy, in the short period of the re-launch allot has been accomplished.

equity78 said:
Demand Media is a private company with VC investors looking to take that company public and cash out,
Is absolutly spot on. DM is not here to make you or anybody else money or successful. They are 100% dedicated to the growth and success of their investment, and what ever tools are created, marketed, etc. is in their best interest of creating the next best vertical integration of MEDIA. I don't profess to being remotly close in thinking outside the box as RR, but I can guarantee that he has a plan, and that plan will enable those willing to invenst the time and money on THEIR OWN business plan some opportunity of success because of DM's agenda.

As for the sales issue; I am VERY happy for John and that he had the foresight to purchase ME, which enabled him to parlay his success into some very nice profits for a couple people here on the board. The exposure on DNJ is good I guess, but I'm not sure how a couple purchases by the same fellow TVer from other fellow TVer's within this small group helps in the bigger picture. DM's agenda really has nothing to do with domainers that read DNJ. Does that exposure mean that Frank Schilling or any of the other big domainers are going to rush in and pay big $ to get involved with .TV? I doubt it.

As far as the auction issue, I think it needs to grow outside of this small group and will benefit everyone involved. I don't think it creates a weakness; does Snapnames, Pool, Clubdrop create a weakness for .COM? Watching the last auction from start to finish, it was quite evident that this same group has seen the same names over and over, and are not willing to sell/buy at the levels wanted. Of course there were sales, but again 55% of the dollars came on 1 name; and again it was John. All the other sales were $30-$210, most at $50-$100. A higher exposure marketplace/Auction will strengthen the extension and bring more profits for those looking sell.

OK, I'm ready for everybody to flame on me now. :kickass:
:wave:
 
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i cant see why anyone would flame you westblock- you didnt say anything that wasnt already touched on- i think everyone agrees that dm has been good for tv- i think we can put that one to bed-
you are right again on the sales issue- this was something we alrady discussed and is why we are doing the auction- we need to expand past our group here to other buyers.
frank schilling? who the freak cares if he buys a .tv- he is not the only one with a few bucks- many names might appeal to companies, outside domainers, educational systems, adult industry, etc... not looking to convert .commers, but there will be plenty who will see how .tv can work with their .com-
and we are working very hard to make this auction work for everyone :)
 
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