Time to invest .xyz

[Domain Monk]

After google decision is it worth investing in xyz extension? Will it's value increase?

 

[J9]

Haha behave yourself!

Plus check out the $15000 recent booking.mobi sale

You can go and buy lolthisisthegreatestextension.ooo for a Million Dollars but that will not make .ooo valuable IMO!

Note: I am not .mobi nor .xyz supporter.

 

[Wannabean]

You can go and buy lolthisisthegreatestextension.ooo for a Million Dollars but that will not make .ooo valuable IMO!

Note: I am not .mobi nor .xyz supporter.

Agreed but .ooo is a bit lame and the keyword would have to fit super well on that one imo. Xyz is a nice generic though and opens up options for end users who right now have to reg 3 or 4 word .coms even their staff will forget, never mind the end user!

 

[J9]

Agreed but .ooo is a bit lame and the keyword would have to fit super well on that one imo. Xyz is a nice generic though and opens up options for end users who right now have to reg 3 or 4 word .coms even their staff will forget, never mind the end user!

Agreed that .xyz is better than .ooo and I agree that one word .xyz will be better than 4 words .com for brands. But don't forget "the invented brandables" that are still available in millions in .com extension. I think brands will prefer them over .xyz.

 

[Wannabean]

Agreed that .xyz is better than .ooo and I agree that one word .xyz will be better than 4 words .com for brands. But don't forget "the invented brandables" that are still available in millions in .com extension. I think brands will prefer them over .xyz.

Interesting but i disagree!

Brandable but meaningless .com's will lose search traffic to keyowrd.xyz which ranks the same as .com.

For example I recently bought stocks dot xyz. Just can't see a company wanting to start a stocks and shares related site regging stockius.com over my website.

 

[ChubbyDfat]

Yes Google goes own several extensions/ gTLD however what makes xyz special is that they have used this for their parent company.

I think you may be confusing something here. Google utilized .XYZ for their holding company (in which they renamed "Alphabet").

I am assuming that since you are a domainer of sorts... you probably visited SEDO at least once. SEDO has a holding company named "Sedo Holding".
They even have their own website associated for this holding company.
Sedos main source of traffic and revenue does not come from their holding company but instead it stems from their work horse company.

Holding companies exist for investors. The populace at large never interface with the holding company(ies). Exposure will not come from a companies decision to utilize an extension in a project that is not front and center/main stream.
*IF* Google had stated that they are changing Google to Google.XYZ, Youtube to Youtube.XYZ, Android to Android.XYZ or any of their other functional (profit creating) companies to .XYZ.... then I would fully agree that XYZ will be getting the notoriety that you are claiming.

Lets put this in context. Google had purchased a single (1, one) domain name in the .XYZ extension to be utilized for their HOLDING company in which only investors are the likely target.
The general populace (those outside of domainers) never even heard this news nor do/will they likely visit ABC.XYZ. The exposure rate is practically zero from this venture and WE (as domainers) only know or care about it because it was news for a brief second, solely because it utilized a nTLD extension.
The time is now gone and it made no blip on the outside (non domainer) world.

I am fortunate enough to work in a place that allows me to work directly with thousands of tech savvy younger crowed (17-25yrs) and not even a ripple or mention of .XYZ.

It is going to be some time before nTLDs break into the mainstream populace. It WILL/MUST take the use of a (at least one) nTLD to be utilized in a heavy traffic site.
As stated above, it will take somthing like:
Facebook to change into Facebook.XYZ
Google to change into Google.XYZ
Youtube to change into Youtube.XYZ
Twitter to change into Twitter.XYZ
Instagram to change into Instagram.XYZ
Some brand new company (the next big thing) to use .XYZ as their MAIN domain name.
Only then will (XYZ in this example but it could be replaced with any) nTLDs begin its assent into the general populace consciousness.


Everything else that you or I "WANT TO SEE HAPPEN" is just pipe dreams until that step is complete. We are all speculating in domain names in which we hope will have value enough to cover our carrying costs.

Just my thoughts.

Cheers

 

[Wannabean]

Holding companies exist for investors

Oh my goodness I didn;t even get to the end of your post before I saw this!

Who do you think runs the internet? Investors of course! They're the only people that really matter when it comes to new extensions!

Also disagree that it's gonna take an existing mega site like facebook to adopt the ext.

New blood is entering the internet space all the time. Where were facebook 10 years ago???

Who knows what the mega sites will be in 10 years and what extensions they will use....

 

[Wannabean]

Oh and it is investors who will introduce the ext to the populace at large...

 

[J9]

Interesting but i disagree!

Brandable but meaningless .com's will lose search traffic to keyowrd.xyz which ranks the same as .com.

For example I recently bought stocks dot xyz. Just can't see a company wanting to start a stocks and shares related site regging stockius.com over my website.

.xyz or .com will rank depending on how SEO is done. That's not our work, it will be taken care by SEO specialists.

Now coming to extension, general public are not aware of .xyz (only 1 year old) vs .com (they see it 99% of time, 20+ years old). If some company buys Stocks.xyz they will lose traffic to Stocks.com. So either they will buy Stocks.com (if they are rich enough) but wait then why they bought Stocks.xyz? They don't have money of course.

So IMO they will go with Stockius.com (or some better brandable) than Stocks.xyz!

 

[Wannabean]

.xyz or .com will rank depending on how SEO is done. That's not our work, it will be taken care by SEO specialists.

Now coming to extension, general public are not aware of .xyz (only 1 year old) vs .com (they see it 99% of time, 20+ years old). If some company buys Stocks.xyz they will lose traffic to Stocks.com. So either they will buy Stocks.com (if they are rich enough) but wait then why they bought Stocks.xyz? They don't have money of course.

So IMO they will go with Stockius.com (or some better brandable) than Stocks.xyz!

You are only correct on this if xyz is promoted well enough. Oh and stocks.com is a Russian site so I should be good on that one!

 

[Wannabean]

* if xyz isn't

 

[1NiteStand]

It's up to the user to go to the right address, that's where .xyz shines, it's unique/brandable, very easy to remember and pronounce/say/spell (and even type) not to mention easily passes the radio test.

 

[Wannabean]

It's up to the user to go to the right address, that's where .xyz shines, it's unique/brandable, very easy to remember and pronounce/say/spell (and even type) not to mention easily passes the radio test.

Spot on. Any company risks losing it's customers if it doesn't advertise properly. I just can't see someone watching a promotion for xyz and then typing in .com? Hell it's not as if .com is the only extension. User's are already wary of what they type and regardless it's the search engine that will account for the majority of traffic.

Content and keyword is king.

 

[J9]

It's up to the user to go to the right address, that's where .xyz shines, it's unique/brandable, very easy to remember and pronounce/say/spell (and even type) not to mention easily passes the radio test.

Unique, Brandable, easy to pronounce, spell, passes radio test, easy to type.... Are you talking about extension or domain?

Spot on. Any company risks losing it's customers if it doesn't advertise properly. I just can't see someone watching a promotion for xyz and then typing in .com? Hell it's not as if .com is the only extension. User's are already wary of what they type and regardless it's the search engine that will account for the majority of traffic.

Content and keyword is king.

If that's true, domainer's would not have been able sell a .net or other extensions domain owner, .com version of their domain for (huge) profit.

 

[Wannabean]

Unique, Brandable, easy to pronounce, spell, passes radio test, easy to type.... Are you talking about extension or domain?

The extension fits the bill and it depends on the keyword.

f that's true, domainer's would not have been able sell a .net or other extensions domain owner, .com version of their domain for (huge) profit.

Major owners who can't obtain trademarks for overly generic terms are always going to have to do this regardless of whether they originally owned the .com .net .xyz or whatever...

 

[J9]

If they own .com they don't need to worry IMO because they will not lose traffic to .net .xyz etc.

 

[Wannabean]

If they own .com they don't need to worry IMO because they will not lose traffic to .net .xyz etc.

They absolutely will lose traffic to well seo'd .net and .xyt or .anything

 

[ChubbyDfat]

Who do you think runs the internet? Investors of course! They're the only people that really matter when it comes to new extensions!

As far as investors... that is a path with many tendrils. Holding companies are indeed for investors. Holding companies cater to investors in many different ilks, art investors, real estate investors, intellectual property investors, business investors, stock/bond investors, capital investors, and the list can go on. Little to non of which have any sway into business practices of a company (short of being a majority stake holder but those investors don't go to websites).

Lets get down to the gritty of things.

How many times have you (honestly) sought out the holding companies website directly?
HSBC/Chase/BOA holding company?
Facebook holding comapny?
Sedo holding comapny?
Of the general populace, how many people do you imagine search for holding companies directly? We have all been to the sites listed above before, but we go to the working site.

For a moment, if you get the chance, ask a common person (outside of your sphere of influence) what they know of holding companies. I can pretty much guarantee you that the average layperson knows nothing of holding companies.
Ask another person what they know about the .XYZ extension.

There is an old adage that "birds of a feather flock together". I feel safe in stating that you (like most of us) converse on a regular bases with people who are (generally) interested in the same experience/knowledge that you are.
If you big thing is politics, you probably hang out with other people who also like politics (probably on the same side you are).
If you are a domainer (surprise), you are here hanging out and talking with other like minded people. We are sharing news that pertains to what we have in common interest.
Outside of our little sphere here... no one really knows or understands what is going on in domain names.

Take a moment and look at things from the point of view of a layperson. Not everyone knows what you know or are interested in what you have interest in.
You are up to date on the latest news and events within your world of interest but KNOW that the average person (90% or more) have no idea what is going on in your world of interest.

Think about all the things that you know nothing about. For me, I know nothing about the world of:
Boxing
Wood working
Tile crafting
Car audio
I am sure there is news and events that happen or is happening in those worlds right now. I know nothing of them nor do I keep up with news in them. My known circle of people probably wont be able to tell you anything more then I can about those subjects. The average person probably is in the same boat is I am in regards to those topics.

Take a moment and understand that as a domainer, you have a special interest in the happenings in the domain world.
Know that you keep up on news and events that pertain to the domain world.
Know that almost everyone else, does not.
XYZ is popular to domainers because of its brief time in the spotlight.
No one else knows anything about it.

Oh and it is investors who will introduce the ext to the populace at large...

Don't confuse investors with inventors. Investors come after the fact, after the product has been invented.
Unless you are talking about seed money to launch a product but they are generally silent, they come WELL BEFORE a holding company is even thought of, and have no real direct influence on the product short of some % interest in the sales/revenue.

When a company reaches a point that it needs a HOLDING COMPANY, it can self fund/fiance anything and is generally looking to purchase deals/mergers and to keep assets separate from their revenue streams.

Just some thoughts.
Cheers

 

[J9]

They absolutely will lose traffic to well seo'd .net and .xyt or .anything

It's not SEO forum but a Domain forum.
Even SEOTips.ooo can SEO better than SEOTips.com but that will not make it first choice for any business. Also I don't think SEOTips.com will buy SEOTips.ooo just because it is better SEOd. SEOTips.com will instead try to do better SEO to come at the top.

 

[Wannabean]

You make some good points chubbydfat but I would add that although investors are largely silent as a demographic, their advertising budgets make an awful l lot of noise.

Google's holding company using an xyz give the ext a lot of credibility amongst those in the know, who will ultimately guide the populace as a whole...

Get those with money and influence to take note and the rest will follow imo.

 

[Wannabean]

It's not SEO forum but a Domain forum.
Even SEOTips.ooo can SEO better than SEOTips.com but that will not make it first choice for any business. Also I don't think SEOTips.com will buy SEOTips.ooo just because it is better SEOd. SEOTips.com will instead try to do better SEO to come at the top.

Whether it is an SEO forum or not my point is still valid. If consumers can adopt other extensions, which history suggests they can, there is no reason to pay a premium for an average .com when opposed with a more easily brandable and memorable New GTLD.