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This is why I don't like Adsense

Labeled as debate in The Break Room, started by Kate, Sep 27, 2017

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  1. Kate

    Kate Domainosaurus Rex VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I have never been found of Adsense or the other monetization solutions.
    First of all, the ads are a distraction to readers.
    They are often creepy and intrusive.
    They deface your website.
    Worse, your website may be used to promote products or services that you do not endorse, or even contents that you find objectionable.
    Simply put, I think it's not worth it if you are not making good revenue. If it's making you $15/month in revenue I say forget it. Waste of traffic. Keep your traffic to yourself or be more selective.
    And if it's your primary source of revenue you have another problem: you are completely dependent on Google (or whatever competitor), which is not a healthy position.

    I understand that bloggers need money to maintain a site that is otherwise not profitable. But if you are using a website to provide professional services, putting unnecessary layers of advertising is bad taste, a distraction, and makes you look cheap. (Just imo).
    You might even end up promoting competitors...

    Now consider this:

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    I am not prude, actually I find it funny but I wasn't expecting that. I don't think it projects the image of professionalism you would want.

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  2. Hemanttilotia

    Hemanttilotia Established Member

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    This can easily be managed in adsense settings.
    Just block out certain things/content types.
     
  3. enlytend

    enlytend Moderator, NamePros Moderator VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Yes, you can block certain content ...
    I never put adsense on a page that converts well ... or on a home page ... or more than ad 1 unit per page.
     
  4. DNWon

    DNWon eCommerce Branding Specialist VIP

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    Doesn't Adsense feed you ads of similar things you were searching for on other websites?

    What have you been searching for Kate? :xf.wink:
     
  5. creataweb

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  6. mayazir

    mayazir VirtualNameMarket.com VIP

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    I insert ads just inside the post itself and on Homepage just if it does match with design, or sometimes sont insert them om Homepage.

    Really, what were you searching, Kate?
     
  7. Kate

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    I don't know :xf.frown: but apparently Googles knows better...
     
  8. mayazir

    mayazir VirtualNameMarket.com VIP

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  9. enlytend

    enlytend Moderator, NamePros Moderator VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger ★★★★★★★★★★

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    The reason I'm an Adsense minimalist is I make a lot more if I can keep people on site to convert than if I send them off site for a few cents. And I never post them on the home page because to quote a well known affiliate marketing pioneer, "let your visitors get to know you before you introduce them to your hot friends ;)."

    Not a single ad on my business site.

    Google's choice of ads for that page IS verrrrrrry suspicious, Kate :xf.grin::xf.grin:
     
  10. JB Lions

    JB Lions Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Yeah, those ads are based on past searches. I just checked - https://onlinedomain.com/

    I get an Under Armour ad, was looking at workout t-shirts.

    And I get an Underwear Club ad, was looking for affiliate programs for my underwearclub.com domain.

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    I don't have many on my sites. Some places make decent money. I always thought it wasn't a good look for major merchants to have them up.
     
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  11. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician VIP

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    ok
    but where can I get it?
     
  12. karmaco

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  13. DGMDomains

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    LOL. Damn Adsense
     
  14. offthehandle

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    So how much money does anyone really make on adsense? Or Amazon? You mention $15 a month, which is a laugh I agree. I have read many different threads here on NP's about no more $$$ in parking, adsense, affiliate links, etc and nothing seems to be impressive at all. I have several sites with amazon related products I choose based on the URL and it took a year to earn $10, and I accidently lost the email coupon, just got another one for $20. BFD.
    Whoopee. I find it to be a huge joke really. Its really a lousy 4% commission, yet one of my contacts swears by it. He claims to have lots of ranked 1st page review sites of various consumer products like shavers and tools, etc that make "tons of money" like $1000's, as an amazon affiliate instead of adsense.
     
  15. JB Lions

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    Depends. How much traffic, the quality of traffic, how good you are at targetting etc. When they have variable fees, I had no problem hitting the higher tiers. Now it's 4% for most categories, some less, some more.

    Some higher ones
    8% - Amazon Echo Devices, Amazon Fire Tablet Devices, Dash Buttons, Amazon Kindle Devices, Furniture, Home, Home Improvement, Lawn & Garden, Pets Products, Pantry
    10.00% - Amazon Fashion Women, Men & Kids Private Label, Digital Video Games, Luxury Beauty, Amazon Coins

    Plus, there are literally thousands of other merchants you can use on your sites.
     
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  16. Furquah

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    The first AdSense is contextual targeting ads plus interest based ads network. Here is an example of interest based ads from AdSense.

    Screenshot_2017-09-28-12-37-30.png

    Now here is an contextual based ads from AdSense,

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  17. Furquah

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    I have used serval's ads network and yet to find a true competitor of AdSense. Media.net is somehow close competitor of AdSense but it's only work if you have site in Education, Loan, Fitness niche and get lots of traffic from tier 1 countries.
     
  18. D Haynes

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    All adsense makes a website look awfull even if its relevant ads. Looks cheap and its all clickbait. I tend to leave a site as soon as I see ads although a good adblocker plugin takes care of most of it.
     
  19. Furquah

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    I knew what pain you have got!
     
  20. mayazir

    mayazir VirtualNameMarket.com VIP

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    So you want somebody pay host, domain, waste time to build a website and maintenance it but dont want to help him earn something?
     
  21. D Haynes

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    Thats up to the website builder not me. If it doesnt sustain itself without adverts its not my fault. Ads just make the page load slowly (making you click on a link you didnt intend to when the page jumps), look ugly, look untrustworthy and generally get in the way when your trying to read an article. Its way worse on mobile devices too.
     
  22. offthehandle

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    Much appreciated, Thanks for putting up some details and for replying, without being exact if you wish to be anon on your Amazon earnings can you give me some min-max numbers? Say on your medium to best traffic sites- how many visitors per month and from those two situations Is it $xx per month? Or $xxx, or $xxxx? I just am curious if its worth pursuing. I have listed their in house promo's too like the echo, and my site gets say 1000 unique visitors per month (nothing spectacular, but very targeted) and has thousands of pages of content. Lots of related things to buy, specific to the niche. So people do stick around, but the paltry $30 just is insulting. Thx.
     
  23. mayazir

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    Delete all websites that continue online just because of ads and you will have the same internet as in 2000.
     
  24. enlytend

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    Five figures a year from Amazon and a private affiliate deal on a seasonal site (most activity during about 5 months) converting at a rate of between 11% and 15%. (JB and I have both been in affiliate marketing for a long time. ) But that's actually building a resource people use, not just putting up some bs content and throwing ads on it.

    If you have a business site, it makes sense not to smother it with ads - focus on getting calls, leads or email captures, only send them elsewhere if you're not going to convert them any other way

    Google search is taking care of aggressive use of Adsense and other ads (example: more ads than content, nothing but ads above the fold) by dinging sites for low quality / poor user experience. Contrary to what some people think, Adwords/Adsense and Search are two different products and the teams have nothing to do with each other.

    For Adsense less is more anyway. The top bids will be in your first ad unit, successive ones can be considerably lower.
     
  25. offthehandle

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    Thank you. Congratulations, excellent work. No I agree and understand about word stuffing and other SEO tricks from the 90's. I never have been into such nonsense of lousy content with garbage articles written off fiverr bidders and plastered adsense. Ive ranked my sites before, but became cynical with Googles scraping of my original content and copycats. My real business niche sites from 90's- early 2000's were ranked by a combination of my own SEO, as well later with paid overture and adwords. I found most difficult for organic rank, and my net income fell to 6% of my gross due to high $9 click ad spends against competitors, then market changes so retired.

    Now recently getting reoriented with this, its a time consuming project.

    Even the reference site with all the content it has sparse amazon relevant ads, i chose and users are mildly or very interested in the links.

    Whatever you are doing correctly, to me thats makes it worthwhile if you can get passive income of more than $1k a month, I guess I should invest some development time into it. Even though what impedes my progress in those narrow verticals I am versed in, all seem so saturated and are already ranked. I have spent so many hours on dead end streets now in various development ideas for about 5 years, its frustrating. I need to do some coop, info-trading, or buy paid consulting with non compete agreements in non competing niches from some guys like you who have success.
     

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