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For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?
 
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This thread is getting painful to read. Some of the names in this thread are pretty solid, especially the GEO.tel names, but most of the names I have seen would not even be that great in .COM

Many of the people still don't seem to grasp that .TEL is a rigid format that can't be parked, developed, or anything else outside a very limiting structure.

It might be good for individual companies and people, but there is no way this Subdomain.SomeLameDomain.tel thing many people have talked about will work. It is totally unrealistic.

The biggest beneficiary to the hype are the registrars who are cleaning up on these bad regs.

Brad
 
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bmugford said:
This thread is getting painful to read. Some of the names in this thread are pretty solid, especially the GEO.tel names, but most of the names I have seen would not even be that great in .COM

If you think those are bad you should check out the .com zone file.. I swear some people must spend their weekends dropping acid registering domain names ;)
 
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WordWalker said:
Sometimes it takes a can-do attitude to get something done. You may not know exactly how you're going to get it done, but you have to start with the belief that you can. If I'm not mistaken, I think that's how America got to the moon.
The old registering domain names is like going to the moon analogy. I figured someone would pull that out eventually. :blink:
 
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MicroGuy said:
The old registering domain names is like going to the moon analogy. I figured someone would pull that out eventually. :blink:

Lol, thanks, now there is beer all over my computer screen. Rep on the way :lol:
 
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WordWalker said:
Sometimes it takes a can-do attitude to get something done. You may not know exactly how you're going to get it done, but you have to start with the belief that you can.
No matter how you spin it, .tel is a boring social site that just so happens to have it's own TLD (ICANN should never have approved it). You would have better luck running a business off of a MySpace profile than .tel because you can at least customize MySpace.

Either some of you are too stupid to understand this, or you are just saying ridiculous things to pump .tel to flip your domains.
 
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This is sad but true.

Too many people are seeing things in .TEL that don't exist. It is a rigid structured format. No one is going to pay to be listed on a directory or for a .tel subdomain.

Brad

DubDubDubDot said:
You would have better luck running a business off of a MySpace profile than .tel because you can at least customize MySpace.
 
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DubDubDubDot said:
Either some of you are too stupid to understand this, or you are just saying ridiculous things to pump .tel to flip your domains.

That is a bit over the line don't you think. Some people are just new, others see value where you don't, many have unrealistic expectations. Really, there is no need for name calling.
 
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bmugford said:
This thread is getting painful to read. Some of the names in this thread are pretty solid, especially the GEO.tel names, but most of the names I have seen would not even be that great in .COM

Many of the people still don't seem to grasp that .TEL is a rigid format that can't be parked, developed, or anything else outside a very limiting structure.

It might be good for individual companies and people, but there is no way this Subdomain.SomeLameDomain.tel thing many people have talked about will work. It is totally unrealistic.

The biggest beneficiary to the hype are the registrars who are cleaning up on these bad regs.

Brad

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Jeez Louise,

We GET your viewpoint already--

Ad nauseam.

You (and a few others) are adding nothing new to this thread, just the same old sniping and whining.

Don't you have a .mobi or .tv thread to trash?

Besides, why do you even care? We already know that you can't build a website or add adsense on .tel.

It's one thing to ask hard questions, but quite another to be simply dismissive of others and their choices.

Here's a suggestion: don't invest in .tel if you think it's a loser TLD. I won't think less of you if you don't. In fact, I don't care.

IMO: add something constructive or move on.


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I am still getting this when trying to activate the "AJMAN" profile (Dynadot)
The profile cannot be activated, because it contains no public contact data in the domain ajman.tel

I have some public data under Accommodation - Apartments and Flats

I entered this about a week ago

How long should this take?? Any ideas??
 
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MicroGuy said:
The old registering domain names is like going to the moon analogy. I figured someone would pull that out eventually. :blink:

Greg, do you happen to look exactly like JFK or are you just a fan, lol. I did try and get jfk.tel quite a while back but I think it went in landrush, was it you who picked that up?? :lol:
 
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bmugford said:
This is sad but true.

Too many people are seeing things in .TEL that don't exist. It is a rigid structured format. No one is going to pay to be listed on a directory or for a .tel subdomain.

Brad

I'm reading that people want to develop their .tel to do this and that, but my question to them is... how?

You can't use your own script because you cannot host your .tel in a server of your own or shared where you can utilize FTP and such.
Basically, you are dependent on what .tel decides to give you.

It's good to be optimistic, but it's also important to be realistic when investing in .tel.

JagG said:
Ive just got a bid of $1000 on a .tel on sedo and after sedo takes its cut I get $900. (Thats what it say on my offer page )

Thank you for sharing.
Also, congrats on a great bid :)
 
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DubDubDubDot said:
No matter how you spin it, .tel is a boring social site that just so happens to have it's own TLD (ICANN should never have approved it). You would have better luck running a business off of a MySpace profile than .tel because you can at least customize MySpace.

Either some of you are too stupid to understand this, or you are just saying ridiculous things to pump .tel to flip your domains.
I'd be interested in seeing your top 100 domain names and about a dozen of your highest producing developed URL's. Maybe we'll all learn something.
 
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gilescoley said:
I am still getting this when trying to activate the "AJMAN" profile (Dynadot)
The profile cannot be activated, because it contains no public contact data in the domain ajman.tel

I have some public data under Accommodation - Apartments and Flats

I entered this about a week ago

How long should this take?? Any ideas??

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I had no problems accessing and activating my Dynadot domains, so maybe you're encountering a glitch.

Try putting in your contact data first (a website URL or email address) and then activating the domain. If that doesn't work, get in touch with Dynadot. They are slow to answer, though, so try posting your problem on their forum. They are pretty fast there.

Hope this helps!


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Steven said:
I'm reading that people want to develop their .tel to do this and that, but my question to them is... how?

When speaking of .tel people use the word "develop" in a business rather than technical sense, i.e. they are developing business directory services.

On the other hand, lots of people are busy developing all sorts of applications and services for the .tel platform, rather than on a .tel domain. I already pointed you in the direction of the APIs.

Steven said:
Basically, you are dependent on what .tel decides to give you.

Not really. You're probably thinking of the web proxy page, but there is much more to .tel than that, and dwelling on it completely misses the point.

Hope that clears things up?
 
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plaggypig said:
Not really. You're probably thinking of the web proxy page, but there is much more to .tel than that, and dwelling on it completely misses the point.

Hope that clears things up?

Not really. What more can it do than just creating a simple contact page, subdomains, and links?
 
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Steven said:
Not really. What more can it do than just creating a simple contact page, subdomains, and links?

Isn't the Yellow Pages nothing more than a massive kludge of phone numbers? Doesn't Google just provide a list of links to the web? Aren't human beings just an arrangement of atoms?

At the end of the day being able to quickly and effectively find communications information is important and valuable, for both people and machines.

If you don't get it, don't worry - .tel isn't for you.
 
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Steven said:
Not really. What more can it do than just creating a simple contact page, subdomains, and links?

Yep.. that is it.. really! :bingo:

Just contact information (in a way never utilized before) [not a page per se], folders and links. Modified in a way that can be used / utilized on many devices and applications at present and hopefully in the future.

If you are looking to just stay within the current web page mentality thinking then I suggest looking at being a chi.mp
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DubDubDubDot said:
No matter how you spin it, .tel is a boring social site that just so happens to have it's own TLD (ICANN should never have approved it). You would have better luck running a business off of a MySpace profile than .tel because you can at least customize MySpace.

In my opinion, the rigidity of .tel addresses is an asset, not a liability. Here's a repost of a write-up I posted elsewhere:

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By far the most convincing attribute of .tel addresses isn't what most blogs are talking about -- quickly updating data, no hosting, etc. -- but that, if apps are developed for mobile phones, instead of having phone numbers in your phone, you could store .tel domains that your friends can update as their info changes (putting your friends in control of *their* contact information stored in *your* phone). This means no more “dead numbers” or emails flying back and forth saying “I changed my number.” There must be 1,000s of Facebook status updates and 100,000s of emails daily that inform people of changes in phone numbers. All of these people would immediately understand what .tel offers: It takes a headache away for them -- and that alone is worth the $10-$15/year to register a .tel.

What does this mean in the short term? It means that .tel addresses could become a new way to contact people (it’s easier to remember than a phone number AND, as the data stored on the .tel changes, those changes will automatically propagate to all the mobile devices the .tel contact is saved on). There are privacy issues that will need to be ironed out -- not everyone wants just anyone to be able to contact them (as an aside, corporations do!) – but everyone evaluating .tel should understand this: It’s not what *you* see on the .tel “page”; it’s what your mobile device sees – up-to-date contact information stored not on your phone, but on a central server.

What does this mean in the long term? It means that .tel domains could become the new vanity phone numbers. Remember the trade in 1-800 numbers of the 1990s? Many early domainers do – that’s what got them to recognize the scarcity of domains early on.

Here’s a long shot: It’s possible that generic .tel domains could become more valuable than generic 1-800 numbers. If the concept of .tel domains as proxies for phone numbers takes off, you’ll get more unsolicited, pre-qualified leads from people typing RealEstate.tel (not one of mine) into a browser or mobile device than you would from 1-800-RealEstate. My rationale: When is the last time you dialed a generic 1-800 number when looking for something? For me, never. When is the last time you typed in a generic domain when you were looking for something? For me, a few times a day. .tel could have the characteristics of vanity 1-800 numbers AND some of the type-in-traffic benefits of TLDs.

Additional thought:
I emailed a version of this post to a friend the other day. Let’s say his name is John Doe. Right before I clicked “send,” I thought, “What if on my phone I typed JohnDoe2.tel (assuming JohnDoe.tel is taken) to call my friend and to email him I did the same - just typed JohnDoe2.tel into the email "To" field?” Similar to the discussion above, either my email provider or an app I’m using would identify my friend’s email address from JohnDoe2.tel and send the email to that. I wouldn’t have to remember his email address or look it up.
 
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gilescoley said:
I am still getting this when trying to activate the "AJMAN" profile (Dynadot)
The profile cannot be activated, because it contains no public contact data in the domain ajman.tel

I have some public data under Accommodation - Apartments and Flats

I entered this about a week ago

How long should this take?? Any ideas??
The issue is that you must have one piece of public contact info on the MAIN page, not just on subdomains. If there isn't any logical piece of contact info, you can add a weblink to the .tel domain, and drag it to the bottom of the list.
 
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