The religious discussion thread

[Archangel]

This thread was created to bring a local new story to light, which can be viewed below:

JACKSON, Ohio (AP) — An Ohio school district decided Tuesday night to keep a portrait of Jesus hanging in the school where it's been 65 years, denying a federal lawsuit's claim the portrait's display unconstitutionally promotes religion in a public school.

The Jackson City Schools board offered a constitutional justification of its own in voting 4-0 to keep the portrait up in its middle school, saying it must protect students' free speech rights. The vote drew cheers and applause from the dozens of people gathered in the elementary school gymnasium.

Read all of it here: http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-school-b...xzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQR0ZXN0A1Rlc3RfQUZD;_ylv=3

I posted his here @ NP to see what ppl had to say on the issue. As it turns out, this sparked many debates. I've considered closing this thread but after multiple suggestions, I decided to keep it open. Feel free to join in the topics but per forum rules, please refrain from obscene, threatening, rude, or insulting posts.

 

[GILSAN]

Agreed. Schools are grounds for imparting Worldly knowledge and education. Religious teachings in a school would most probably lead to some conflictions and contradictions amongst young minds that can be harmful for the bright future of any country.

Then why was this permitted?

"Texas public school students don burqas, learn that Muslim terrorists are freedom fighters"

Read more:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/26/t...-that-muslim-terrorists-are-freedom-fighters/

 

[verbster]

Everyone is biased in one way or another, but what you are saying is that Christians are as bad as Muslims and don't get along with all other religions, like Muslims?.

Oh, please. Muslims and Christians don't matter; it's th s extremists on both sides that have perverted both religions and moved on to thinking their God is the one true God, and if He doesn't appear and smite the people of the false religion, then people like you will spread the message of hate and violence.

I don't recall Christians in the US threatening to kill Atheists who were offended by and were able to have Nativity scenes removed from certain cities in the US.

good grief.

Amazing that you put Islam and
Christianity at the same level and still continue to defend Islam despite all the evidence of their hatred and intolerance towards everyone who isn't a believer.

Again, you don't get it. I'd defend the poodle down the street against dog-haters, just as I would defend you against Porto haters spouting the same ridiculous nonsense that's being spouted here.

It's not religion that's the problem; it's the close-minded zealots of the religions that get my goat . . . the ones who can't see two inches past their extremist pugnacity.

 

[Archangel]

PC issues kept me away from NP for awhile. Since I left, there have been 5 pages of posts added to this thread. I'll read them over in a bit. But I saw something while skimming: Is there a debate here about whether a fetus is truly 'alive'?

 

[DU]

Is there a debate here about whether a fetus is truly 'alive'?

No. I think you're confusing a fetus with namepros.

 

[GILSAN]

No. I think you're confusing a fetus with namepros.

:lol: Nearly wet my pants with that one :lol:

 

[GILSAN]

Again, you don't get it. I'd defend the poodle down the street against dog-haters, just as I would defend you against Porto haters spouting the same ridiculous nonsense that's being spouted here.

It's not religion that's the problem; it's the close-minded zealots of the religions that get my goat . . . the ones who can't see two inches past their extremist pugnacity.

Oh I get it all right. It's you who who doesn't smell the coffee. You are trying to convince me that Islam and Christianity are equally bad. Christianity is not in conflict all over the world, with other religions, as Islam is.

Didn't you see Muslims rejoicing and partying all over the world after 9/11? I did and it made me really pissed off, because on that day it wasn't just Americans they were killing, it was all the infidels in the world who didn't believe in their God.

Now could you explain what Porto haters are?

 

[DU]

Now could you explain what Porto haters are?

Benfica fans

 

[GILSAN]

Benfica fans

OK, But here we are talking about soccer fanatics, I'm a Benfica fan but not a fanatic, so I get along very very well with all my Porto fan friends. We watch games together and I always root for Porto in international competitions.

BTW, Benfica will play Newcastle in an hour or two for the Europa League at Newcastle after beating them 3-1 in Lisbon. Should be a good game. The Brits are always dangerous playing at home. If Benfica wins they go into the final 4

 

[DU]

OK, But here we are talking about soccer fanatics, I'm a Benfica fan but not a fanatic, so I get along very very well with all my Porto fan friends. We watch games together and I always root for Porto in international competitions.

BTW, Benfica will play Newcastle in an hour or two for the Europa League at Newcastle after beating them 3-1 in Lisbon. Should be a good game. The Brits are always dangerous playing at home. If Benfica wins they go into the final 4

I'm going for the Magpies!

Portuguese teams suck and I hate them.... they're so bad their good players go to Spain and play with real teams. :lol:

 

[GILSAN]

I'm going for the Magpies!

Portuguese teams suck and I hate them.... they're so bad their good players go to Spain and play with real teams. :lol:

Benfica is gonna show the Magpies how to play football tonight. Personally I love to watch English football, or for that matter Spanish, German + Italian football as well.

It's true, the Portuguese create some great players then sell em off. Not enough money in our league to hold the best players

EDIT: Game over: Newcastle 1-1 Benfica. :kickass: The Magpies had no chance. They needed to eat more Cottage Pie to have any chance of beating us.

Benfica are through to the semi-finals on a 4-2 aggregate.

 

[DU]

EDIT: Game over: Newcastle 1-1 Benfica. :kickass: The Magpies had no chance. They needed to eat more Cottage Pie to have any chance of beating us.

Benfica are through to the semi-finals on a 4-2 aggregate.

But it was close in the end.. 3-2 and Newcastle pressing...

Typical Portugal though rolling around on the floor like it was a March Madness leg break chewing time of the clock at the end of the game.

 

[GILSAN]

But it was close in the end.. 3-2 and Newcastle pressing...

Typical Portugal though rolling around on the floor like it was a March Madness leg break chewing time of the clock at the end of the game.

True, it was close. Benfica were better in the first half and Newcastle better in the 2nd half.

All teams chew time to their advantage. If the Magpies had scored a 2nd goal and Benfica had to score they'd do the same.

20-30 years ago British teams never chewed time but now that they are mostly using foreign players, they have changed. I preferred the attacking English football of the past.

BTW, the Benfica president and coach laid flowers at Sir Bobby Robson's statue, as a sign of respect for that great player and coach, who coached Porto and Sporting FC during his 4-5 years in Portugal. Everyone loved and respected Bobby here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...castle-1-Benfica-1-agg-2-4--match-report.html

Big surprise: :O Totenham are out after penalty shoot-out against theoretically weaker Basle of Switzerland

 

[verbster]

Oh I get it all right. It's you who who doesn't smell the coffee. You are trying to convince me that Islam and Christianity are equally bad.

Once in a while you need to read what has been written to you and actually think about it instead of firing off you normal 'brainwashed liberals, lefties are the anti-Christ reply.

Religions are themselves static and have the opportunity to be beneficial to believers or be twisted by hate-mongers spreading misery, arrogance and intolerance in the name of their religion. It's the people who determine the actions and beliefs in the name of their religion.

"Christianity is not in conflict all over the world, with other religions, as Islam is." What wars and military actions has the US engaged in in the last 20 years? What was their religion? Why is it we chose to invade? And what has the sacrifice of soldiers and civilians on both sides brought us?

Now could you explain what Porto haters are?[/QUOTE]
nah...something to keep you thinking about.

 

[mwzd]

A religion discussion on a business forum? Really??

Who came up with this brilliant idea?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjVLJKR6g7U"]George Carlin Religion is bullshit - YouTube[/ame]

 

[DU]

A religion discussion on a business forum? Really??

Who came up with this brilliant idea?

It's NIMBY at work. This is like a black hole for senseless bigotry.

Discuss religion all you want but NIMBY....then where? here....

It was needed.

 

[GILSAN]

"Christianity is not in conflict all over the world, with other religions, as Islam is." What wars and military actions has the US engaged in in the last 20 years? What was their religion? Why is it we chose to invade? And what has the sacrifice of soldiers and civilians on both sides brought us?

You tell me the answer to those questions

Now could you explain what Porto haters are?
nah...something to keep you thinking about.

No need to any more. DU has already answered that question

 

[verbster]

here's an example of religious/moral politics creeping into state government. Here is a list of general state license plates available in Alaska. Notice anything out of balance?

http://www.doa.alaska.gov/dmv/PlateGallery/index.htm

 

[DU]

The color balance ?

Standard Yellow looks Orange to me.

 

[verbster]

The color balance ?

Standard Yellow looks Orange to me.

No, a pumpkin is still a pumpkin by any name.

 

[GILSAN]

here's an example of religious/moral politics creeping into state government. Here is a list of general state license plates available in Alaska. Notice anything out of balance?

http://www.doa.alaska.gov/dmv/PlateGallery/index.htm

So what are you complaining about. The fact that there is no "Star and Crescent Moon" number plate, so as not to offend Muslims?