The religious discussion thread

[Archangel]

This thread was created to bring a local new story to light, which can be viewed below:

JACKSON, Ohio (AP) — An Ohio school district decided Tuesday night to keep a portrait of Jesus hanging in the school where it's been 65 years, denying a federal lawsuit's claim the portrait's display unconstitutionally promotes religion in a public school.

The Jackson City Schools board offered a constitutional justification of its own in voting 4-0 to keep the portrait up in its middle school, saying it must protect students' free speech rights. The vote drew cheers and applause from the dozens of people gathered in the elementary school gymnasium.

Read all of it here: http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-school-b...xzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQR0ZXN0A1Rlc3RfQUZD;_ylv=3

I posted his here @ NP to see what ppl had to say on the issue. As it turns out, this sparked many debates. I've considered closing this thread but after multiple suggestions, I decided to keep it open. Feel free to join in the topics but per forum rules, please refrain from obscene, threatening, rude, or insulting posts.

 

[twomoon]

In my opinion in the times when Christian religion is not so popular as before in a Christian countries and sometimes it becomes almost intolerant to be a Christian, it's a good move by Ohio School Board.

 

[verbster]

In my opinion in the times when Christian religion is not so popular as before in a Christian countries and sometimes it becomes almost intolerant to be a Christian, it's a good move by Ohio School Board.

Say what?

 

[twomoon]

Say what?

What?

 

[Sabre]

In my opinion in the times when Christian religion is not so popular as before in a Christian countries and sometimes it becomes almost intolerant to be a Christian, it's a good move by Ohio School Board.

My other halfs parents are staunch Christians and would agree with this. I can't say I personally have an opinion on the matter though :gl:

 

[Keith]

It should be removed IMO.

The picture clearly represents just ONE of many religious beliefs. That's not to mention those that have no religious beliefs at all. I say to the board, what about everyone else's "freedom of speech/religion?"

 

[twomoon]

Okay, but where was all these offended people during 65 years? It seems everything was okay until now.

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My other halfs parents are staunch Christians and would agree with this. I can't say I personally have an opinion on the matter though :gl:

You need to spend more time with your other halfs parents

 

[verbster]

Okay, but where was all these offended people during 65 years? It seems everything was okay until now.

Many wife-beaters seem like good guys until the wife speaks up. Even then, many people would choose to not deal with it.

You need to spend more time with your other halfs parents

You may not have meant to, but you just insulted his parents. . . sort of like what the photo does to people of other religions, including those paying the taxes that help fund the school.

 

[twomoon]

Many wife-beaters seem like good guys until the wife speaks up. Even then, many people would choose to not deal with it.

Agree with you, but in this situation I guess it's not a good example.
The picture didn't make any harm during 65 years to anybody and you and me - we all know it.
What is happening now (during last years) is just a brainwashing. Some are ok with it, and some not. I am not.

You may not have meant to, but you just insulted his parents. . . sort of like what the photo does to people of other religions, including those paying the taxes that help fund the school.

I didn't insult Sabre's parents, it was a joke, and to make all people sure it's a joke I even put that smiling symbol // - hope this symbol is not insulting anybody here for now.
The views of Sabre's halfs parents are just similar to mine - and I like it.
BUT, Sabre if you got insulated, excuse me, I didn't mean to.

 

[GILSAN]

They should just take the stupid thing down but nah, they have to be all self-righteous ie retarded. I'm sick of it. It's not the pic I don't like (I'm Christian). But the displaying of it is horrible. Seriously, if it was a painting of Lucifer, it'd have been removed long ago. But because it's the "most popular" figure, it's embraced. TAKE THE F***ING THING DOWN! It'll stop all drama & we can move on. I'd just about walk over to the school & destroy it. I could--it's not far away.

The point is: Not EVERYONE is Christian. And some actually are offended by this. One woman actually had staff tell her, "If you don't like this, home-school your kids!" And THAT is supposed to be a solution to offending people? Stupid-ass school board.

"I'm Christian", "They should just take the stupid thing down", "retarded", "TAKE THE F***ING THING DOWN", "I'd just about walk over to the school & destroy it", "Stupid-ass school board"

Wow, you really sound like a nasty hypocrite. You say you're a Christian but you say all those nasty things. You should change your avatar's name from Archangel to Lucifer. It's more suitable to what you think.

I'll bet that if it was a picture of a Gangsta Rapper you'd have no problem at all... right?

The article said:

"The challenge to the Jesus portrait began with a Jan. 2 letter to Howard from the Freedom From Religion Foundation,"

"The board said the portrait is part of a "limited public forum," and that the Jackson schools will allow other student clubs to hang portraits appropriate to their organizations."

Good for you at the Ohio School Board. You voted 4-0 with the applause of dozens. It's called democracy

 

[twomoon]

Freedom From Religion Foundation

Here is something from their main page:

"The history of Western civilization shows us that most social and moral progress has been brought about by persons free from religion. In modern times the first to speak out for prison reform, for humane treatment of the mentally ill, for abolition of capital punishment, for women's right to vote, for death with dignity for the terminally ill, and for the right to choose contraception, sterilization and abortion have been freethinkers, just as they were the first to call for an end to slavery. The Foundation works as an umbrella for those who are free from religion and are committed to the cherished principle of separation of state and church."

yeah, freethinkers.. I would call them rather destroyers and murderers

 

[GILSAN]

Here is something from their main page:

"The history of Western civilization shows us that most social and moral progress has been brought about by persons free from religion. In modern times the first to speak out for prison reform, for humane treatment of the mentally ill, for abolition of capital punishment, for women's right to vote, for death with dignity for the terminally ill, and for the right to choose contraception, sterilization and abortion have been freethinkers, just as they were the first to call for an end to slavery. The Foundation works as an umbrella for those who are free from religion and are committed to the cherished principle of separation of state and church."

yeah, freethinkers.. I would call them rather destroyers and murderers

It's pretty obvious from their name what they stand for. They don't believe in God and now they try to shove their beliefs down everyone's throat and try to act as if they saved the world.

 

[enlytend]

How is taking down a religious picture in a nondenominational public institution shoving "their beliefs down everyone's throat?"

How is leaving the picture up NOT pushing "their" (Christian) beliefs on non-Christians?

 

[-NC-]

to ensure freedom of religion they could let any student put up a picture of religious significance to them. it would be educational. I'm sure it would turn out well.

 

[GILSAN]

How is taking down a religious picture in a nondenominational public institution shoving "their beliefs down everyone's throat?"

How is leaving the picture up NOT pushing "their" (Christian) beliefs on non-Christians?

The article said:

"The board said the portrait is part of a "limited public forum," and that the Jackson schools will allow other student clubs to hang portraits appropriate to their organizations."

That basically answers your question

 

[Keith]

The article said:

"The board said the portrait is part of a "limited public forum," and that the Jackson schools will allow other student clubs to hang portraits appropriate to their organizations."

That basically answers your question

So if a few friends form a devil worship club, the school will hang a picture of the devil right? Hey, fair is fair!

 

[JB Lions]

If it was one of Muhammad, it would have been 0-4 the other way.

Should be taken down, simply because there are different religions and non-religious and this is promoting one over the others. It's a school, not a church. It would be ok in a Catholic school or something.

"The population was 6,397 at the 2010 census."

Figured. It's those lil podunk towns that are usually still trapped in the 50's. After reading the history of the town a little more, it's pretty much a Christian town, Jesus ain't going nowhere.

 

[GILSAN]

"The population was 6,397 at the 2010 census."

Figured. It's those lil podunk towns that are usually still trapped in the 50's. After reading the history of the town a little more, it's pretty much a Christian town, Jesus ain't going nowhere.

So you have a problem with "lil podunk towns" that are majority Christian?

And on top of it they are trapped in the 50's.:O How shocking Wow, you really are good at analyzing a town through the internet and in just a few minutes you can tell that they are all trapped in the 50's. The MSM should hire you as an investigative reporter. :gl: They sure are in dire need of them

How evil the people from the 50's must have been. If only someone could send them on a learning vacation to big cities like Chicago, Los Angeles, Detroit, San Francisco where they can meet all those nice liberal folks, so that they can finally liberate themselves from the "Evil 50's".

 

[JB Lions]

Love the fake outrage from somebody living in Portugal. Yes, the towns are a lil backwards (I've seen more than a few), and the 50's weren't great for everybody in the U.S.

 

[GILSAN]

Yes, the towns are a lil backwards (I've seen more than a few), and the 50's weren't great for everybody in the U.S.

Backwards? In what? And according to what criteria? Your criteria? :lol: