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Thread for Dot Mobi Rep Correspondance:

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On the sudden, rising concerns of the m. issue, we have just been addressed:

http://mobile20watch.blogspot.com/2007/05/m-vs-mobi.html *Brought to us through Dot Mobi CTO apparently


但是很快的dotMobi的CTO James Pearce在comment中回覆了,dotMobi的說法是


"1) Users can't be expected to guess whether a given site's mobile interface is m.thingy.com, mobile.thingy.com, thingy.com/mobile or (even!) thingy.com/xhtml. Outside of .mobi, there's as little sign of convention as there is with the diversity of different devices

2) .mobi, as the top-level-domain designed for mobile, provides a lelev of trustworthiness to the user (although they may not explicitly know it). We have a set of best practices, developed with the W3C, that we expect our registrants to build their sites to. And theoretically the right to disable sites if they flaunt basic principles of mobile suitability.

3) It's not blindingly obvious to a non-technical user that m.site means mobile. Put it on a billboard ad and people are going to scratch their heads. I would have hoped that a URL ending .mobi has a fairly obvious intention - even to my grandmother.

I think autodetection does have an impact of course - being able to spot a mobile device and route accordingly. But .mobi is also about more than markup suitability - it's also about providing services suitable for the mobile context. And I believe users should a) be given mobile-relevant services by default, but b) still be allowed to go to the full PC site should their patience (and browser's abilities) permit it. With auto-detection, that's a very rare choice."



Let's look at this closely..



Kind Regards,

Yelo
 
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great find bro!
 
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3) It's not blindingly obvious to a non-technical user that m.site means mobile. Put it on a billboard ad and people are going to scratch their heads. I would have hoped that a URL ending .mobi has a fairly obvious intention - even to my grandmother

this is a very good point...we forget we know more about the net than the average cellphone or pc user...also I believe one of the large cellphone companies is naming a phone the "mobi"

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Great find Yelo!
 
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Thanks Yelo. I share the same opinion as mtld on this one. If I'm looking for a mobile site, I don't want to chance it and end up paying huge bandwidth costs because the page isn't properly optimized. Sure, I can visite m.yahoo.com and be safe -- but I believe someone posted here a few days back, about how 90%+ of Internet traffic isn't to the Alexa top 100... Of the 20-30 sites I frequent on a weekly basis, only 3 of them (Yahoo, Google, Ebay) are in the top 100. So am I to expect all these smaller sites will perfectly optimize their sites? IMO, that's really no different than believing all dotcom owners will convert their coding to XHTML-MP just to satisfy everyone. Sure -- some will. But will we seriously have every single dotcom owner putting up mobile versions? Of course not! IMO, that's dotmobis strongest selling point. They offer a guarantee of compatibility.

On another note, I must say, I HATE typing extra periods in the url. I stay away from all of them, whether it's .co.uk, or subdomain.domain.com, etc. I find them annoying as hell, as well as unprofessional. Perhaps I have high expectations -- I'm the kind of guy who sees someone using a .info, .biz, or even .net and figures they're not my best source of information, granted they're probably a smaller company which couldn't afford the corresponding dotcom -- something which is often true. As for subdomain.domain.com, IMO nothing is more unprofessional than that. I never take anything I read on (i.e.) a geocities site seriously -- I'll always cross-reference it with a worthy dotcom and I really don't think I'm alone on this one...
 
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Great thoughts

Very thought provoking posts..

I like your highlighting for us of Dot Mobi's strongest selling point..

The user's guessing game with the other options..

-To feed off of what you are saying, I wonder what percentage of all internet phones currently are "low end" that really need that guarantee (and the new phones with internet bought tomorrow)

-m.subdomain.brand.com also is kinda long



Kind Regards,

Yelo
 
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Good job, Yelo. Thanks!
 
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Excellent intel.
Yelo, thank you for sharing your findings.

Michael
 
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Thanks for the post Yelo. It's good to see the folks at mtld addressing current events. And I want to add that your posts of late are far less cryptic and a joy to read. Keep up the good work.
 
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