discuss The after effects of "showcase" threads

[biggie]

:talk:


look around the forum and you'll see dozens of 'showcase' threads.


for a newbie, on the surface they seem like new opportunities to get in on a perceived latest trend or an opp to register keyword domains in new extensions, etc and hopefully make some sales.

for the experienced....their non supportive comments relating to the "faults" in/of such plans, from what I've seen, aren't really welcome.

so, if feedback is restricted, along with viewpoints from a different perspective.

then, the net result are threads full of consecutive back pats on/for speculative domain registrations without guidance.

the after effect is/are, those who will benefit from creating these threads and those who loose out thru "participation registrations".

if/when the potential ramifications of those actions, cannot be addressed therein....then you are loosing more than you are aware of.


just saying, don't get 'caught up' in the show

understand who it's being "put on" for

know who the actors are and what "impression" the plan is, to impress upon you.

always seek, and never fear, the most critical advice.


now how many have of you have made profits and how many have yet to make a dime?


share if you dare!



imo...

 

[DU]

If you always have to make everything personal then quite frankly I don’t give a darn about what you think,

See

 

[oldtimer]

See

We are here to discuss domains in a professional manner, when you are ready to do that then let me know and I’ll take your posts more seriously.

IMO

 

[NPer]

Walkie Talkie

Walk the walk

If I want to walk the walk, I think I will need to move from this spot in Africa, to an Sea Island where rich men live and made millions off hand-regs.

I wouldn't need to pay more than $2 to ensure a life of comfort.

Talk the talk but can't Tap and Pay

Some domainers think they are talking the talk, but they are not using an NFC enabled device. Look, the naysayers are still using Blockias. I tag and pay baby... tag and pay. :blink:


A Hand of Poker- Always a winner

Pay $2 for an Ace worth millions. It's called strategic betting.

 

[alien51]

I have more respect for the players who show their hands and lose, than the folks who claim to be winners but never show their hand. The "Damn, I had Kings!" bit gets old hand after hand.

Maybe that's one reason why many of the past domaining veterans here are no longer posting.

Sometimes all these "showing your hands" stuffs, eventually gets old and tiring too. "sold blahblah.com for $250", "blehbleh.net for $350", "blibli.biz for $80", and so on, day in, day out....

At the end of the day, you'll realize that the only important thing for you is earn money. Do i really need to broadcast the receipt as proof??

And maybe there is also an element of CULTURAL DIFFERENCES. I observed humans in the Asian side are more sensitive with their own prestige, honor, pride, dignity..... Western side humans are more into the practical, straight-to-the-point, drop-the-pretenses stuff, show-me-the-money-and-lets-call-it-a-day....

 

[verbster]

Jeez, this has all the makings of a religious thread . . . believers and naysayers, insults . . . . The believers see themselves as a support group for their beliefs, but the naysayers see the group as an evil cult. Such is life.

 

[Havela]

Wow... interesting thread, to say the least. I think equity78 summed it up nicely and wisely in the thread above both on the professional and personal level.

Nevertheless, I have to admit when i saw the heading on the main page "the after effects...", I thought the thread would be about something else entirely.

To me, it has always seemed a potentially dangerous after effect of posting a name in a showcase thread that potential buyers might find the thread and see that the name was a hand reg, or that some one else doesn't like it or even wonder why the seller posted the name in a showcase thread in the first place.

But even if you're really meticulous about cleaning up your act so you never run the risk of a buyer finding the name in a showcase thread, why do people want to post the name in the first place?

I find the sales thread a bit odd, too, but I enjoy reading about other people's successes and I understand the dynamics behind it; people are proud to have made a sale and want to tell their fellow "colleagues". What is a profession without recognition, right?

But a showcase thread? Look at my newly regged domain? What is the point? In comparison, people who buy stocks or real estate for resale do not post their new acquisitions online for other people to comment on them. Why would anyone want to show off their new purchase before they even know if they will make a profit? I'm not trying to attack anyone here, but I'm just really curious about the dynamics behind the showcasing. Why not wait until you have made a sale and then you can post the name (provided you do not have an NDA).

 

[equity78]

Nice post Havela, you bring up a lot of good points, these points fall to different levels depending where you are in the Name Game.

Most, not all but most professional domainers, that make money, pay their bills with sales and parking, keep their info tight, they rarely buy on forums and if they do they never post sold, they pm the seller, say I will buy and please remove from the thread. They don't share sales with DN Journal for many reasons.

Others want to see transparency, I don't need your permission to see what your house sold for, I can go online in my state and look it up with no problem and for no fee, a friend of mine went out and looked up everyone he graduated elementary school with. Odd to me but he wanted to know.

There are many that don't believe the sales data and call even big domainers things ranging from pumpers to money laundering, a serious accusation but its been made on forums and blog comments in the past.

So see the domain industry has an identity crisis, it does not know what it wants to be, one day its comparing itself to real estate and stocks, yet does not want the regulation or the transparency for that. The next day its a secret society of geniuses that know what few know and want to keep it that way. You can't have it both ways, at least not in the mainstream view of the world.

Newer investors tend to be the ones that showcase everything, I think if you want to have a discussion with people you share data to get data, so that may be why some post.

Then there are hobbyist that don't care, they are never buying a domain from Frank or Rick or even Brad Mugford or Morgan Linton who tend to price more reasonably. This is a game, its a lottery ticket that lasts one year, they got these names for .99 to $3.00 you can reg a lot of names with multiple Go Daddy accounts, but the main point they don't care its fun for them, its their money. I mean if as much care went into supposedly keeping domain investors from losing money as went into helping the hungry a lot more people would eat tonight.

There is also the lack of getting offers and actively marketing names by a lot of new investors so they don't hear the feedback from a potential end user " I used the Google machine and see you got this for .99, why are you looking for me to pay $5,000 ?"

 

[alien51]

Don't forget the "Showcase your Mini-Site" thread, which i find very odd.

Mini-sites are considered the scum potholes of the internet. Google hates mini-sites. Paris Hilton hates minisites, because she always ends up clicking the ads.

Why you would want your minisite domain discovered easily as a blatant admission of internet pollution, baffles me.

Don't get me wrong. I have a couple of minisites as well myself. But i'd rather keep it under wraps under the radar. I am not inclined to show my cards on that arena.

I even block the Wayback Machine crawler bot from my minisites, to avoid any trace snapshots that they were minisites for years.

 

[Havela]

Don't forget the "Showcase your Mini-Site" thread, which i find very odd.

Valid points, it's probably not a good idea from a sales perspective to showcase minisites, either.

However, as far as I can tell, the posting of minisites is mainly about getting feedback in order to improve the sites, so it actually has a practical purpose. If you get feedback on your minisite, layout, advertising, etc, you can improve the earnings.

In comparison, posting a newly regged domain has no practical end whatsoever. It's not as if you can change the name if you get negative feedback - regged is regged. Personally, I never read any of the showcase threads simply because I think they're boring. Sales threads have a learning purpose, you can actually see what names sell. Showcase threads are just... well, odd, a bit like 'look at this new jumper I bought on the sales, isn't it trendy?'

Having said that, I do see equity's point about transparency, which is why a sales posting is worth nothing if it doesn't also contain the purchase price. But I don't think newbs showcase their domains to help improve transparency in the domaining industry, there has to be another reason.

Final point, I don't really understand all the naysaying, either. As equity says it's a bit like babying other people. I understand that experienced domainers get frustrated and wish to vent once in a while, but why bother with every thread? It's not like the showcasers are grateful about the warnings, right? Live and let live, imo.

 

[biggie]

But try not to delude yourself into thinking merely talking-the-talk adds more value than the Showcase Trend Data Threads you like to piss-on from the lofty position of 'experienced expert'.

:talk:

experience does not come cheap, nor is it a lofty position.

as one has to keep abreast, to maintain and sustain.

and though some may feel like their parade gets rained on, it ain't pee that's falling on them....it's just a different perspective.

cuz there are so many who have never heard an opposing view.

So see the domain industry has an identity crisis, it does not know what it wants to be, one day its comparing itself to real estate and stocks, yet does not want the regulation or the transparency for that. The next day its a secret society of geniuses that know what few know and want to keep it that way. You can't have it both ways, at least not in the mainstream view of the world.

:talk:

don't think it's the industry as a whole

more like some people who participate in this industry, are the one's experiencing an identity crisis.

individuals will try to make comparisons between their portfolios and Re or stocks, when a relative concrete visual is needed, but it's not an industry wide practice

and there are some who have their secret societies where you got to fit in and conform with the norm

not all are geniuses but if they all have to agree with each other to fit in, then in that type of environment, in their own minds they will always be right.

to me, if you can't put your ego aside, to share knowledge and understanding, then you will always get offended by contrasting viewpoints.


imo...

 

[RaiderGirl]

@ Biggie

Amazing at the number of posts and PM's you directed at me to "Cool it" and be the better person, asking me to take the first step, and here you are flaming a well respected member.

Do us all a favor and take your flaming trash back to DNF, you'll not only fit in but you'll make more friends.

 

[NPer]

and there are some who have their secret societies where you got to fit in and conform with the norm

not all are geniuses but if they all have to agree with each other to fit in, then in that type of environment, in their own minds they will always be right.

to me, if you can't put your ego aside, to share knowledge and understanding, then you will always get offended by contrasting viewpoints.


imo...

Excellent post. :tu:

"Being real", as you said yesterday, is important to keep "true to the game".

We know who the actors are. We know what they want to impress upon us.

 

[4pm]

getting back to the topic - the after effects..
i love showcase threads - i learned a lot from many experienced members posting there their opinions, sharing sales, etc.
..nothing helped me more than showcase threads in my learning, indeed - i started 2 years ago with hand regs like webcloudservices.biz and the likes...
nowadays i often feel sorry for 5+ years old members posting their wearable/nfc/bigdata/etc fresh regs but that sometimes also makes me proud of my own regs, at least some of them (not necessarily related to the thread topic - i dont have any nfc or wearables e.g.).. i like that feeling, and it helps me gauge my progress (i'm far from being happy with my portfolio, nor do i rate myself anywhere close to being an expert)
on the other hand good quality regs that still happen to occur do give me a lot of inspiration and new ideas for totally different niches. that's an indispensable thing

in short: naysayers and positivists alike - please keep posting and sharing in showcase threads, you've got readers, you add a lot of value to this forum peace


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