discuss The after effects of "showcase" threads

[biggie]

:talk:


look around the forum and you'll see dozens of 'showcase' threads.


for a newbie, on the surface they seem like new opportunities to get in on a perceived latest trend or an opp to register keyword domains in new extensions, etc and hopefully make some sales.

for the experienced....their non supportive comments relating to the "faults" in/of such plans, from what I've seen, aren't really welcome.

so, if feedback is restricted, along with viewpoints from a different perspective.

then, the net result are threads full of consecutive back pats on/for speculative domain registrations without guidance.

the after effect is/are, those who will benefit from creating these threads and those who loose out thru "participation registrations".

if/when the potential ramifications of those actions, cannot be addressed therein....then you are loosing more than you are aware of.


just saying, don't get 'caught up' in the show

understand who it's being "put on" for

know who the actors are and what "impression" the plan is, to impress upon you.

always seek, and never fear, the most critical advice.


now how many have of you have made profits and how many have yet to make a dime?


share if you dare!



imo...

 

[biggie]

I knew you couldn’t carry out an intelligent discussion without injecting your usual poison into the thread. Perhaps I gave you too much credit when I read your initial post and thought that you might have changed your ways.

IMO

:talk:


don't need or want your credit


I roll with cash,


when you stop using negative terms to describe members who voice opposite opinions than the one YOU want to hear....then maybe i'll ease up off your ass


however, as long as you have the right to continue to encourage newbs into regging more crap by using words like "great name", while at the same time trying to ... (hate using this word) "blacklist" others by labeling them as naysayers or any other negative term, then I won't quit.

you call it poison, I call it right to know

imo...

 

[oldtimer]

You aren’t worthy of a response anymore, I am not going to waste my time with people who haven’t learned how to engage in a normal conversation without attacking others.

IMO

:talk:


don't need or want your credit


I roll with cash,


when you stop using negative terms to describe members who voice opposite opinions than the one YOU want to hear....then maybe i'll ease up off your ass


however, as long as you have the right to continue to encourage newbs into regging more crap by using words like "great name", while at the same time trying to ... (hate using this word) "blacklist" others by labeling them as naysayers or any other negative term, then I won't quit.

you call it poison, I call it right to know

imo...

 

[equity78]

Let's get this straight no one is going to harass another member because they feel justified.

People can use words like noob and people can use words like naysayer and each has their right to respectfully defend their position. No one will be on anyone's ass. Warnings will be given and posts deleted that have nothing to do with the topic but are just looking to be on someone's ass.

The nonsense with you two in each thread will be stopped one way or another.

 

[biggie]

You aren’t worthy of a response anymore, I am not going to waste my time with people who haven’t learned how to engage in a normal conversation without attacking others.

IMO

:talk:

when you put heat on plastic, it starts to melt and looses it's shape.


concrete advice and intelligent members participated here.

however, since your weak ass attempts to discredit the motive for the thread didn't work, feel free to step off and showcase something else.


and that is just another example of the after effects of "showcase" threads


some folks get the "big head" and really imagine in their own minds, that the shit they spit has more juice.

problem is, I ain't trying to stir their Kool-Aid...or add no sugar

and it's been like that for me, since diz-zay 1

imo...

 

[carob]

Let's get this straight no one is going to harass another member because they feel justified.

People can use words like noob and people can use words like naysayer and each has their right to respectfully defend their position. No one will be on anyone's ass. Warnings will be given and posts deleted that have nothing to do with the topic but are just looking to be on someone's ass.

The nonsense with you two in each thread will be stopped one way or another.

Good, because this started off as an interesting thread but I just am not interested in discussing personalities. I am unsubscribing from this thread.

I guess one side effect of showcase threads is bad feeling - people feeling put down or jealous of the better domains. Who gives a toss if you or anyone else "believes in" a domain or extension, it is a buyer who actually pays who needs to care about a domain.

 

[Kate]

Great thread

It's so true, there are so many of those threads on NP. I lost count after so many years.

Predictive domaining is great in theory but...

1. by the time a trend is making the news, it's too late to tap the niche, at least on handregs (noobs are cheap sheep)
2. debate is not always sincere, and too many members are congratulating each other
3. some members have no clue what they are talking about, and stubbornly resist any attempt to instill reason in the discussion.

And you know why those threads are so popular and keep coming up ?
Because people are late to the game and have dreams, and they want to believe. We are all hoping for a big payday. Such us human nature. That's it, the vast majority of domainers are betting on domains like lottery tickets.
It's the same in real life, people tend to discard or downplay the inconvenient facts, and try to 'believe' things are more or less the way they should be, or they want it to be.

And like 3D said, many of those threads have been launched by newbies who didn't survive renewal time and disappeared into the void of space... but they talk like visionaries and the more experienced (and cautious) domainers are depicted as naysayers or negative members, dinosaurs, flatlanders etc. In spite of having a track record that newbies do not have.

Then, you have people making up sales that never took place...
So yes, it's a lot of fluff and ego.

Don't believe everything you hear or read, especially on the Internet !

IMO...®

 

[biggie]

Great thread

It's so true, there are so many of those threads on NP. I lost count after so many years.

Predictive domaining is great in theory but...

1. by the time a trend is making the news, it's too late to tap the niche, at least on handregs (noobs are cheap sheep)
2. debate is not always sincere, and too many members are congratulating each other
3. some members have no clue what they are talking about, and stubbornly resist any attempt to instill reason in the discussion.

And you know why those threads are so popular and keep coming up ?
Because people are late to the game and have dreams, and they want to believe. We are all hoping for a big payday. Such us human nature. That's it, the vast majority of domainers are betting on domains like lottery tickets.
It's the same in real life, people tend to discard or downplay the inconvenient facts, and try to 'believe' things are more or less the way they should be, or they want it to be.

And like 3D said, many of those threads have been launched by newbies who didn't survive renewal time and disappeared into the void of space... but they talk like visionaries and the more experienced (and cautious) domainers are depicted as naysayers or negative members, dinosaurs, flatlanders etc. In spite of having a track record that newbies do not have.

Then, you have people making up sales that never took place...
So yes, it's a lot of fluff and ego.

Don't believe everything you hear or read, especially on the Internet !

IMO...®

:talk:

common sense isn't always apparent or applied, which can lead to waste of money for many who engage, without having benefit of opposing opinions.

appreciate you once again "kate" for stepping up and being real.


ain't too many that will stay true to the game, when it ain't popular to do so


most just sit on the fence, figuring which side to fall on

when all they have to do is stand up.


imo....

 

[JB Lions]

Sometimes I think there is a little too much babying going on. Just saw the new warning thread, then have the little thing in the Appraisal forum about not taking $0 too personal etc.

But as far as after affects, I think it's fine. Losing money is where learning takes place. Don't deny newbies that joy, that experience. Even long time domainers taste it today. Reminds me of another recent thread, similar topic. If it's people asking for opinions on new trends/extensions whatever, that's the place for it. Nothing wrong with helping out. Sometimes it happens in threads where it's not asked for/wanted. Wondering if people are just bored sometimes. Some people popping in those threads, giving advice, taking a look at their own domains/sale sites, probably shouldn't be giving advice anyway. Picking bad domains can happen across the board, doesn't have to be a new trend/extension. And again with those, there will be people making money with them, because they just pick domains that make sense/work.

This has to do with the new wearables thread I guess. New things coming down the line, people want to talk about it, even tho wearable tech has been around for awhile, calculator watches in the 80's, stuff before and after that. Maybe a few wearable domains will sell, the brandable ones or the few that actually make sense, but money is probably more on the specific wearable that doesn't have the word wearable anywhere in it, than some general domain.

 

[biggie]

Sometimes I think there is a little too much babying going on. Just saw the new warning thread, then have the little thing in the Appraisal forum about not taking $0 too personal etc.

But as far as after affects, I think it's fine. Losing money is where learning takes place. Don't deny newbies that joy, that experience. Even long time domainers taste it today. Reminds me of another recent thread, similar topic. If it's people asking for opinions on new trends/extensions whatever, that's the place for it. Nothing wrong with helping out. Sometimes it happens in threads where it's not asked for/wanted. Wondering if people are just bored sometimes. Some people popping in those threads, giving advice, taking a look at their own domains/sale sites, probably shouldn't be giving advice anyway. Picking bad domains can happen across the board, doesn't have to be a new trend/extension. And again with those, there will be people making money with them, because they just pick domains that make sense/work.

This has to do with the new wearables thread I guess. New things coming down the line, people want to talk about it, even tho wearable tech has been around for awhile, calculator watches in the 80's, stuff before and after that. Maybe a few wearable domains will sell, the brandable ones or the few that actually make sense, but money is probably more on the specific wearable that doesn't have the word wearable anywhere in it, than some general domain.

:talk:

I agree, there is waaaaay too much babying, pacifying, and breast feeding going on

cuz I know for sure, I've read plenty of posts where members want to be "spoon-fed" the info-mation, rather than reading it and cyphering for themselves



but this thread is not about the wearables thread in particular, just about showcase threads in general.

take the marijuana thread, been going strong since 2012

but how many of them actually have ever sold any bud?

and if and when it becomes legal nation wide, walgreens, cvs, wallmart, kmart, Costco, along with ever other retailer will be selling it too.


so how valuable will those names really be?


but the hype of great name, still goes on


like you say though, why deprive the newbies from the joys of failure




puff, puff, pass




imo....

 

[alien51]

I never realized a lot of you people are very affected by these "showcase" threads.

I have checked these threads in the past, like the showcase your "pot" thread, or "solar" thread. I never got the hang out of people posting what marijuana domains they just regged recently. It's not YOUR domain. So what am i supposed to do? Reg my own marijane .com??? And the biggest myth is just because someone sold a "solar" domain, it doesn't mean you can find your own buyer for your own solar stuffs. So what value do you get to see someone saying i regged this Wearable Crowd Cloud Pot domain?

Are you supposed to do a copycat reg of that same domain?

And of all the domains getting posted on the "showcase" threads, how many of them actually got sold, and how many of them eventually got dropped?

 

[DU]

Indeed, and the thing is, with all the names they reg, it can't all be at $1.99 because GD doesn't issue tens or hundreds of these codes to enable these "mass" registrations over short periods of time. So they may be paying $8+ too for many of their registrations-but they won't say it.

4 accounts 10 codes = 40 domains.

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Even the anti showcase thread has Naysayers... they're everywhere!

 

[JB Lions]

:talk:

I agree, there is waaaaay too much babying, pacifying, and breast feeding going on

cuz I know for sure, I've read plenty of posts where members want to be "spoon-fed" the info-mation, rather than reading it and cyphering for themselves



but this thread is not about the wearables thread in particular, just about showcase threads in general.

take the marijuana thread, been going strong since 2012

but how many of them actually have ever sold any bud?

and if and when it becomes legal nation wide, walgreens, cvs, wallmart, kmart, Costco, along with ever other retailer will be selling it too.


so how valuable will those names really be?


but the hype of great name, still goes on


like you say though, why deprive the newbies from the joys of failure




puff, puff, pass




imo....

Well, you don't need to have actually sold or used bud, to sell a domain. Or did you mean bud domains? Maybe somebody has a nice brandable somebody wants to build on. Maybe you're a new company looking to take advantage of these new laws and want to get into selling pen vaporizers, that in a .com would be a nice name to have.

Again, for me, doesn't matter the sector, if it's old or new tech, whatever. It's about good domains, no matter where they are. And getting good domains in this category makes sense to me as it slowly becomes legal in more and more states.

 

[Keith]

And of all the domains getting posted on the "showcase" threads, how many of them actually got sold, and how many of them eventually got dropped?

I think the basic thinking is that the domains will be sellable in the future based on emerging tech/trends. It can be a good bet for a few folks but most will pull the lever and come up with triple $0.

 

[eyedomainous]

The nice thing about Showcase Trend threads is folks SHOW their hand.

The fact that they show their hand adds priceless value to the domain market, and each showcase trend namespace, because it produces trackable market data.

Of course, most hands are losers... so its easy to sit back, look at past data, and say those that showed their hand and lost don't know how to play the game... so they are no longer here. The problem with that is logging-in is not the standard of success. Showing your "winner's" hand is.

I have more respect for the players who show their hands and lose, than the folks who claim to be winners but never show their hand. The "Damn, I had Kings!" bit gets old hand after hand.

If your strategy is buying ($450 dollar) names in the aftermarket, then start an After Market Showcase thread and post the names, so members see your hand -and can track the drops or sales. THEN we can compare the ROI against comparable trend handregs in that namespace.

Same thing goes for the sales posted in Showcase Trend threads. Its easy to say they are not real. Even when proof is posted (then its.. "What its parked?", or "Show me your bank statement". But where are YOUR posted sales, with (Escrow doc caliber) proof, to back-up your better-than-thou position?

In business, when you repeatedly say you have a better mousetrap... its put-up or shut-up. If you can't put-up and you won't shut-up... then your "Talking the talk without walking the walk". To put it politely.

It is a business forum, so mega-posters will 'Talk the talk". That's what they do best, and there is some value in that.

But try not to delude yourself into thinking merely talking-the-talk adds more value than the Showcase Trend Data Threads you like to piss-on from the lofty position of 'experienced expert'.

 

[.NJ]

The "Showcase threads" and the "Report completed domain sales thread" should combined into one single thread.

The "Bull$hit Thread".

 

[oldtimer]

Let's get this straight no one is going to harass another member because they feel justified.

People can use words like noob and people can use words like naysayer and each has their right to respectfully defend their position. No one will be on anyone's ass. Warnings will be given and posts deleted that have nothing to do with the topic but are just looking to be on someone's ass.

The nonsense with you two in each thread will be stopped one way or another.

Ray with all due respect, it’s wrong to bunch us up together since all the hostility seems to be coming from him. It’s his attitude that allowed him to bring the subject of his a** into the conversation. Show me where I have said anything about him in this thread that justified that kind of retaliatory comments. Every time that I talk about Naysayers in general he takes it personally and feels like he has to defend himself by spewing his garbage.

I am not intimidated by his comments, but if he decides to continue with his bullying attitude even after your warnings then you owe it to the rest of us to kick his a** out of the forum.

PS: the Naysayers always claim that they are trying to save the Newbies from making mistakes, but all that we see from them is negativity, abuse, bullying, and insults and never anything constructive that adds value to the showcase threads.

IMO

 

[alien51]

I guess the bottomline is: The Showcase Threads may have value to some people, have no value to others.

You just have to avoid reading threads that do not concern you, or you do not like.

If a thread does not have value to anyone, eventually it will die.

 

[DU]

Does this:

it’s wrong to bunch us up together since all the hostility seems to be coming from him

Go with these?

It’s his lowlife attitude

his lowlife comments

but if he decides to continue with his bullying attitude even after your warnings then you owe it to the rest of us to kick his a** out of the forum.

PS: the Naysayers always claim that they are trying to save the Newbies from making mistakes, but all that we see from them is negativity, abuse, bullying, and insults and never anything constructive that adds value to the showcase threads.
IMO

I have many more opinions on why you feel persecuted but I don't think you'd appreciate the feedback at this point - no matter how well intentioned I tried to be.

 

[oldtimer]

I have many more opinions on why you feel persecuted but I don't think you'd appreciate the feedback at this point - no matter how well intentioned I tried to be.

If you always have to make everything personal then quite frankly I don’t give a darn about what you think,

 

[equity78]

@oldtimer I was not calling you or Don anything negative or bunch you, the two of you seem to have friction in a lot of threads, you can't be calling him a lowlife.

Naysayer and Noob are words that can be defended respectfully. Someone having a negative or pessimistic view of new trends is fine, it is also the definition of the word naysayer.


@eyedomainous Claude you touched on something I was going to post hours ago but had other stuff to do besides this. When we talk about people, we have no idea what they have done, Who knows what older domainers who seem to profess being wise have made.

I have been in enough threads over the years that I know Don (biggie) has made sales, When Brad Mugford posts I know what Brad has sold, but there are many members here, some I like a lot, that I have and no one else has any idea what they have done.

Don't kid yourself there are people who certainly come in to every new trend thread and say sucks, loser, idiots, Who has no knowledge of the topic. If you are going to come into a wearable tech thread for example, you better show some knowledge of the tech, consumuer behavior stats, something to back up your "Noobs wasting money"

Another point about that trend was the person saying they turned down a low xx,xxx offer was another established member, Hawkeye, he is not a noob, Someone is going to need another set of standard replies to refute his talk on wearable technology because Kevin has been around and done sales in domaining.

The other part of this riddle is someone says you are doing everything all wrong, the noob asks what am I doing wrong ? You have to find that our for yourself, I am not telling you. (Which no one has to give away secrets or teach for free, I understand that 100 %) But you then have to understand people with no direction will do the same things, and like JB Lions said that is part of the learning why are we looking to baby people ?

Look these trends are nothing and I have said to Eric here and Adam Dicker from DNF the new tlds are going to be a cluster fuck unless forums get some organization and lay out some rules for, .WEB showcase etc... and a million you are all losers comments that get back a million gfy, .commie, etc.....

There should always be debate, and people should be free to state whatever they like, it also should have some substance, at least some reasoning behind why this trend is just a waste of money. Mocking people will only bring about varied negative responses.