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Here is a nice article posted on NameBio.com by Michael Sumner the CEO of NameBio.com. He asked for Swetha's aka @DNGear username and password to log into her Afternic account to confirm the sales once and for all, read it all below or go to https://namebio.com/blog/swethas-sales-the-truth-may-shock-you/

Swetha’s Sales – The Truth May Shock You!​


Yesterday there was quite the stir on Twitter after Swetha reported another batch of jaw-dropping .xyz sales. User @jackdomainer did some research and found that an overwhelming majority of her sales were still not developed, which he thought was suspicious given the price tags. Theories started flying around, and even the Castello Brothers and Rick Schwartz chimed in with vague statements alluding to some grand conspiracy.

Grab some popcorn and read it for yourself here:


The low rate of development was the only “proof” provided so far. But why report fake sales? Well isn’t it obvious? To boost the value of her own assets so she can dump them on unsuspecting wholesalers, hoping to reproduce her incredible success, for inflated prices.


But ask yourself this… how many times have you seen Swetha wholesaling premium .xyz domains? I may have missed it, but I don’t recall seeing that.


For years I’ve been in the awkward position of publishing these sales reports. All I can go on is a screenshot, which she graciously provided for every single sale report since the day she started sharing. But screenshots can be faked relatively easily.


I could ask her to share her screen with me while she logs in to a marketplace, but even that could be faked with browser extensions that modify the page live. It’s more difficult than faking a screenshot, but not impossible. Not good enough.


To get a definitive answer, I reached out to Swetha and asked for the unthinkable. I asked if she would give me her username and password to her Afternic account, so I could log in myself and verify all the sales she has ever reported at this marketplace.





I felt bad even asking. Here she is sharing her valuable sales data with the community, all while being given endless grief about it. And now some stranger is asking to log in to her Afternic account. A lesser person would have just said “fuck it”, stopped reporting sales, and told me to go away. But you know what… she agreed! It was at this moment I knew it was all true and factual, but still, I’m going to “due diligence” the heck out of this.


So I quickly logged in to her Afternic account and visited this URL to get a dump of all the raw sales data. Then I started taking screenshots of her sales summary page. I logged out and let her know I was done so she could change her password. Then I started diving in.


One by one I checked the sales against what we have in our database. Every single one of them was perfect. Except I discovered something shocking. Quite a few of the sales were never reported. However good you think she’s doing based on what she has reported, she’s actually doing even better. That’s insane!


Now remember, Swetha has been reporting sales for quite a while now. All this time, she had no idea I would ever ask her to log in to any of her accounts, or which one(s) I would ask for. So if she was going to fabricate sales, she would have no way of knowing to always keep Afternic clean, as opposed to DAN or Escrow.com or whatever. Thus I now feel 100% confident in all her reports, not just the Afternic ones.


I also now feel confident in saying that Swetha is probably in the Top 100 of all domain investors who have ever lived, and she is probably in the Top 5 of all investors who aren’t part of the “old guard”. Maybe even #1 of the new generation.


But more than that, she is a kindhearted individual who is generously sharing what is working for her even though it makes new acquisitions more expensive for her. And even when the haters show up in droves, she stays the course. Thank you Swetha.


Is it possible that she’s a shill for the registry, and they’re creating hundreds of accounts across multiple marketplaces to buy the domains from her? I mean anything is possible. But it seems highly improbable that they would lock up funds and trust that she would always give them back, just to create the appearance of demand. They don’t benefit from the wholesale aftermarket, so it would just be for the sake of hand regs.


And then how do you explain the ones that are developed? And how do you explain other people getting large XYZ sales? Believe what you want, and skepticism is generally a healthy thing, but this theory seems so out there and lacking in any evidence that I have to think anyone who believes it is jealous (or loves conspiracy theories more than Rob Monster).


Here is the full screenshot I took of her sales summary page, with unreported sales blacked out for her privacy. Again, I took this screenshot myself while personally logged in to her Afternic account, it was not shared with me. I saw it with my own eyes.

Check out the screenshot of Swetha's sales at: https://namebio.com/assets/swetha-sales.jpg

Source: https://namebio.com/blog/swethas-sales-the-truth-may-shock-you/
 
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Confirming sales through an account access is not the litmus test. Confirm and identify the buyers.
 
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There are 2 options here. Either shut up or put up.
 
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While I am all for a good conspiracy, the lack of research and selective reporting behind twitter member (@jackdomainer)'s "closer look" was offensively tragic. A win for clicks and sparking a conversation, but from a sleuths perspective, those tweets were a lazy and wreckless effort to throw gasoline on the fiery conspiracies.

Kudos to @EJS, @DomainNameWire, @Michael for going the extra mile to help put out the flames of shoddy twitter reporting.

11/30 https://domainnamewire.com/2022/11/30/20-more-five-figure-xyz-domains-developed-this-year/

11/ 29 https://domaininvesting.com/daniel-negari-comments-about-swetha-and-her-business/

11/27 https://namebio.com/blog/swethas-sales-the-truth-may-shock-you/


I visited a lot of Swetha's reported sales, and found widely different findings than what appears to have been portrayed in @jackdomainer 's tweets heard round the domaining world. I've been debating on ways to release a more thorough report (Registration Dates, Registrars, Developed Websites), be it written, or recorded screenshare. Just personally, I'm just not sure this matters enough for me to spend time going down this rabbit hole.

Some comments are easier to respond to than others, such as:::

To add to this conspiracy...there are top 1 word dictionary names in XYZ have exorbitant renewal fees.

Coincidence?

If she's such a baller with having a premium portfolio...yet she conveniently avoided the following domain names:

Renewal fees:
loans.xyz $13000
news.xyz $13000
soccer.xyz $13000
trainer.xyz $3000
many others if you download the list on xyz page.

And many more already registered and bought by domain investors after looking at her sales. Not in her portfolio and not seem to sell.

While this is an interesting theory to raise, seeing how sales reports may inspire domainers to potentially pay premium renewals, this logic may be flawed when looking at the data.

For instance, there were 86 nameBio reported .XYZ sales $20k+.

Of those 86, only 4 had premium renewals (cross-maching those domains with the downloadable premium list from xyz website)... And NONE of those 4 domains that had premium renewals were sold by Swetha.

While some folks may continue to cry conspiray ("why doesn't swethas premium domains have premium renewals?") but the answer to that may depend on the WHOIS year, and possible grandfathered regular renewal granted (until) the domain is deleted. 82 of the top 86 reported .xyz sales, such as 1(.)xyz aren't listed with premium renewal fees on xyz downloadable list. eg XYZ renewals are less expensive for those who had the foresight of registering .XYZ early on.

The only 4 domains that reported selling for over $20k (again, not sold by Swetha) that had premium renewals were:

Joy(.)xyz [$350 premium renewal] = 2020 WHOIS (multiple previous drops) = sold in 2022 for $25k

Capital(.)xyz [$1,300 premium renewal] = 2021 WHOIS (again, multiple previous drops) = sold in 2022 for $105k

Move(.)xyz [$700 premium renewal] = 2021 WHOIS (again, multiple drops) = reported sold in 2022 for $50k

XX(.)xyz [$3,000 premium renewal] = 2022 WHOIS (previously dropped) = but different than the other 3, is XX(.)xyz reported selling for $59k in 2015, PRIOR to the current WHOIS year. Thus looking like the 2015 buyer? had let it drop (or otherwise) and the domain was recently re-registered with a $3k renewal and listed on Dan with a $188k BIN.
 
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While I am all for a good conspiracy, the lack of research and selective reporting behind twitter member (@jackdomainer)'s "closer look" was offensively tragic. A win for clicks and sparking a conversation, but from a sleuths perspective, those tweets were a lazy and wreckless effort to throw gasoline on the fiery conspiracies.

Kudos to @EJS, @DomainNameWire, @Michael for going the extra mile to help put out the flames of shoddy twitter reporting.

11/30 https://domainnamewire.com/2022/11/30/20-more-five-figure-xyz-domains-developed-this-year/

11/ 29 https://domaininvesting.com/daniel-negari-comments-about-swetha-and-her-business/

11/27 https://namebio.com/blog/swethas-sales-the-truth-may-shock-you/


I visited a lot of Swetha's reported sales, and found widely different findings than what appears to have been portrayed in @jackdomainer 's tweets heard round the domaining world. I've been debating on ways to release a more thorough report (Registration Dates, Registrars, Developed Websites), be it written, or recorded screenshare. Just personally, I'm just not sure this matters enough for me to spend time going down this rabbit hole.

Some comments are easier to respond to than others, such as:::



While this is an interesting theory to raise, seeing how sales reports may inspire domainers to potentially pay premium renewals, this logic may be flawed when looking at the data.

For instance, there were 86 nameBio reported .XYZ sales $20k+.

Of those 86, only 4 had premium renewals (cross-maching those domains with the downloadable premium list from xyz website)... And NONE of those 4 domains that had premium renewals were sold by Swetha.

While some folks may continue to cry conspiray ("why doesn't swethas premium domains have premium renewals?") but the answer to that may depend on the WHOIS year, and possible grandfathered regular renewal granted (until) the domain is deleted. 82 of the top 86 reported .xyz sales, such as 1(.)xyz aren't listed with premium renewal fees on xyz downloadable list. eg XYZ renewals are less expensive for those who had the foresight of registering .XYZ early on.

The only 4 domains that reported selling for over $20k (again, not sold by Swetha) that had premium renewals were:

Joy(.)xyz [$350 premium renewal] = 2020 WHOIS (multiple previous drops) = sold in 2022 for $25k

Capital(.)xyz [$1,300 premium renewal] = 2021 WHOIS (again, multiple previous drops) = sold in 2022 for $105k

Move(.)xyz [$700 premium renewal] = 2021 WHOIS (again, multiple drops) = reported sold in 2022 for $50k

XX(.)xyz [$3,000 premium renewal] = 2022 WHOIS (previously dropped) = but different than the other 3, is XX(.)xyz reported selling for $59k in 2015, PRIOR to the current WHOIS year. Thus looking like the 2015 buyer? had let it drop (or otherwise) and the domain was recently re-registered with a $3k renewal and listed on Dan with a $188k BIN.
I'm sorry. You should not need a bachelor's degree to understand this.
 
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I'm sorry. You should not need a bachelor's degree to understand this.

Funny... I wish I had a bachelor's degree!!

I thought this was domaining common sense. My mistake.
 
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Funny... I wish I had a bachelor's degree!!

I thought this was domaining common sense. My mistake.
You appear to be a lot smarter than you give yourself credit for. Just keep it to brass tacks.
 
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(Today on DomainNameWire.com)

1. Swetha acquired the almost all of her 20,000+ domains without premiums. .Xyz didn’t have premiums through the reg path when it launched, so if you bought at the launch or picked up expired domains (that didn’t fully delete) later, then there are no premiums. [Update: I checked with the registry and they did have Premium tiers at launch. I also checked with Swetha and she said only one of the domains she owns is a premium.] Not only do non-premium domains sell better, but you can get more reach through networks that won’t take premium domains.

To expand on one of Andrews comments...

The reason Swetha sells the lion’s share of .xyz domains that have been publicly release is a) she owns the lion’s share of good .xyz domains without premiums and b) she publicly announces many of them.

For context, there are only 7,827 .xyz domains listed on the gen.xyz downloadable list of premium .xyz domains. Compared to Swetha's 20,000+ premium .xyz domains with regular renewal. #HailToTheQueen
 
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I'm sorry. You should not need a bachelor's degree to understand this.

You didn't actually address his point though.
Just threw out a flimsy comment about a 'bachelor's degree'.
 
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Can anybody answer as to why 1(.)xyz is not listed on the gen.xyz downloadable list of all premium domains?

To answer my question, it looks like this was covered in a 2016 press release article on TheDomains.com written by Michael Berkens

Apparently, in March of 2016, the .xyz registry held an exlcusive premium auction with West.cn; which included the 1(.)xyz domain as its headliner. As an auction perk, these exclusively auctioned domains were removed from the variably priced premium domain list, and were assigned standard renewal fees.

“Many of these domains have never been registered before, since they were originally variably priced premium names, which renewed for a premium fee. However, we have removed these domains from our variably priced premium list so that the winners of these domains will only be responsible for standard renewal fees!”
 
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the unregister xyz premium domains 's renewal price keep changing , like z.xyz .........
i am happy my OLA.xyz is still 10 US dollars renew price
 
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the unregister xyz premium domains 's renewal price keep changing , like z.xyz .........
i am happy my OLA.xyz is still 10 US dollars renew price
Don't let it drop. It can end up in the registry reserved domain list. Mine did.
 
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My xyz domain that I allowed to drop is now reserved by the registry and not allowed for registration but is being offered for sale for 7,999. Can someone explain to me how this works?
 
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I knew it, @DNGear you are a gem! Proud of you and excited that it isnt a mans only world of domaining! Wtg, Swetha! Whoohoo!
 
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Does not matter whether s/he sells - hope s/he and Trump pay their fair share of taxes!!

Is s/he makes lots of money, good for the Indian economy and for the people.
 
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Come on. You dont believe this, dont you? Clearly there is a deal between Swetha and the owner of .xyz extension.
 
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Since the Castello Brothers were mentioned in this thread, I will make some observations on the topic. My brother David and I are not always on the same page in many instances. That’s what makes us stronger.

I believe all extensions, that are approved by ICANN, to be valuable. How valuable is up to the public. buyer, seller, and developer.

I will play the Devil’s Advocate on the XYZ topic because there is so much speculation swirling around.

I have no proof of anything I put forward, just that I have had experience in registering, buying. selling, and developing domain names since 1994 and can make my own professional assumptions.

IF, and that’s a big If, the XYZ registry is using foreign proxies to buy and sell its names, is that illegal? I don’t think so. There are so many new extensions, it would take some real ingenuity to place one extension in the forefront with out showing successful buyers, sellers and developers engaging in the extension.

As new extension, why spend money on advertising? Globally, that could cost a hundred million dollars. It would make more sense to allocate $5 million to propagate the money to buyers, sellers and developers of its premium names. That would give it the perception of success to potential investors. Moving the money to a foreign country allows for the money to stay dark. If it were America, an audit could track the money’s movement. So I can only speculate on what is actually happening with these XYZ sales.

A seller, showing that these are actual legitimate sales, does not negate that a registry could still be involved with each of these players-buyer/seller/developer.

I still don’t think it’s illegal, Deceptive? Possibly, but perception is everything to the believer. There are those that will make money, but usually someone has to lose money for others to make money. That’s the exchange that will move one’s status up or down the capitalistic hierarchy. I believe It’s still legal if a registry moves money to another country and uses other agents to buy, sell, and develop a portion or it’s premium stock to move the public perception of its higher value and usage,

I am a.com supporter. I have just a couple other legacy domain name extensions. I have never bought crypto or NFT. That doesn’t mean these new technologies are not making people rich. They are just too volatile and risky for me at this post. Same with the new extensions. Making money can be risky.

Why would I gamble on them when I am vested in stable assets like .com? I don’t have to disparage a person or business in order to make money off of my .com domain names.

Yes, people who have been in this industry for many years want to make sure that the truth is available because they are obligated to do so. If the industry is tarnished, so are we.

It’s up to you to decide where you want to spend your money and who you want to believe.

Good luck! Because sometimes you do need luck…
 
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Why all this Conspiracy Theory, Post-Mortem and Investigative domaining again and again. Why pry into others affairs. Just only she could do and others are not even close to her? Its her honesty and transparency that she didn't hesitate to hand over her account to be scrutinized. Let her Sale be to end-user or to wholesaler or to anyone else. What's bothering domainer's is that only she is able to do it in 5 figures consistently and others who have heavily invested in xyz are finding it hard to dispose it off even at mid-high xxx.
I hope everyone with xyz domains are able to sell it for handsome price. But I think checking her account(even with her permission) is extreme.
Instead Lets talk and discuss various modes and strategies to sell xyz extension for a fair price. Seniors can throw some light on this.
All the Best to Everyone!
Thanks.
 
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