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In Canada the .ca regional domains are on fire, I don't understand why I never see a .us domain in actual use.

With the .coms almost out of reach why are the .us domains not catching on?
There are a lot of us companies like plumbers, roofers etc. yet so few of them use .us domains.

I would love to see what the penetration for .us is as compared to other countries.
I have been thinking about dabbling in some .us domains and would love some feedback.
 
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.US CCTLD

Premium General Availability “Tiered Pricing” Program


ICA is strongly opposed to this portion of the proposal, which would reclassify approximately 100,000 currently authorized .US domains as “premium” within the following categories:

  • All three letter domain names (17,576) and all three number domains (1,000), excluding names on the restricted list (i.e. 888.us, 877.us, 866.us, etc.)
  • All nouns under eight letters, excluding names with negative connotations or on the “7 Dirty Words” restricted list
  • All verbs under eight letters, excluding names with negative connotations or on the “7 Dirty Words” restricted list
  • Top 10,000 words in the English language, excluding names with negative connotations or on the “7 Dirty Words” restricted list (price varies)
We take this position notwithstanding the fact that, now that Neustar has identified the categories of domains it would reclassify as premium, sophisticated domain investors could readily seek to acquire both presently registered as well as unregistered .US domains within these categories in anticipation of implementation of the plan and a potential increase in secondary market value. We also recognize that the proposed high/low pricing model is less objectionable than domain reclassification programs we have seen proposed in the past, given that it would not affect current registrants or their renewal or transfer costs; that currently registered domain names identified as premium will incur a premium fee only if they expire, go through the redemption process and become available for re-registration again by new or different customers; and that the premium pricing would typically be a one-time event with annual renewal fees being the same as for non-premium domains.
 
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In all fairness, it seems to me that their are 2 sides to the coin. Firstly Ica does a wonderful job of protecting domainers rights. But by asking for no premium pricing shows me they are biased in a way towards the domainers/opportunists that benefit from the drops as opposed to those that currently own domain names in .us.
 
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That makes me wonder if any other ccTLD has premium pricing.

Now, back to Haagen-Dazs, and why .us has not caught on, and what it would take and would have taken all along for that to occur...
 
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Source I.C.A
.US CCTLD

Premium General Availability “Tiered Pricing” Program


ICA is strongly opposed to this portion of the proposal, which would reclassify approximately 100,000 currently authorized .US domains as “premium” within the following categories:

  • All three letter domain names (17,576) and all three number domains (1,000), excluding names on the restricted list (i.e. 888.us, 877.us, 866.us, etc.)
  • All nouns under eight letters, excluding names with negative connotations or on the “7 Dirty Words” restricted list
  • All verbs under eight letters, excluding names with negative connotations or on the “7 Dirty Words” restricted list
  • Top 10,000 words in the English language, excluding names with negative connotations or on the “7 Dirty Words” restricted list (price varies)
We take this position notwithstanding the fact that, now that Neustar has identified the categories of domains it would reclassify as premium, sophisticated domain investors could readily seek to acquire both presently registered as well as unregistered .US domains within these categories in anticipation of implementation of the plan and a potential increase in secondary market value. We also recognize that the proposed high/low pricing model is less objectionable than domain reclassification programs we have seen proposed in the past, given that it would not affect current registrants or their renewal or transfer costs; that currently registered domain names identified as premium will incur a premium fee only if they expire, go through the redemption process and become available for re-registration again by new or different customers; and that the premium pricing would typically be a one-time event with annual renewal fees being the same as for non-premium domains.

interesting! So when will they make decision on 2 letter .us?
 
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"So why are .us domains not catching on?"

Question:

What could change that quickly, literally almost overnight, not via long term effort or great expense? What was not done that would normally have done that from the beginning in 2002 and since?
 
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interesting! So when will they make decision on 2 letter .us?
I myself don't know. The private company takes over neustar later this year. An investor tried blocking the deal a couple months ago I think, but they they then voted to follow through with the deal. Maybe before or afterwards your guess as good as mine. Somebody here I'm sure must know something.
 
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Question:

What could change that quickly, literally almost overnight, not via long term effort or great expense? What was not done that would normally have done that from the beginning in 2002 and since?
Do you have the answer?
 
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Do you have the answer?
Yes.

I've also been mentioning it in one form or another here and prior to this thread.

It's so amazingly obvious and simple, a no-brainer no less. All this time since April 2002 things could have been so different with so little effort and expense.

Also, with perhaps some exceptions, a person probably needs to have been here a while (in the US) in order to have the kind of informed perspective and experience best suited to this discussion it seems.
 
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Yes.

I've also been mentioning it in one form or another here and prior to this thread.

It's so amazingly obvious and simple, a no-brainer no less. All this time since April 2002 things could have been so different with so little effort and expense.

Also, with perhaps some exceptions, a person probably needs to have been here a while (in the US) in order to have the kind of informed perspective and experience best suited to this discussion it seems.
I've been in the u.s. all my life and domains have been more than half of it , so whatcha talkin bout Willis? residency requirement? Privacy? Lack of government participation or hindrance? Commercial interests? Centralnic with it's us.com and selling inferior subdomains? Collusion in the Aftermarket?....
..So what's this no brainier your talking bout?
 
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..So what's this no brainier your talking bout?
The answer has been obvious from the start. Kate already touched upon it in post #7 before I even entered this thread, and I have written about it before. Incidentally, how old were you when .us was released in April 2002?

Bold added below:
It's unlikely that a ccTLD (any ccTLD) is going to thrive when it's not being embraced by national authorities. The official bodies lead the way and the rest of the country follows. Not happening in the US.

The answer to this is the same fundamental answer that covers many different basic areas of life when it comes to popularity, discovery and awareness, and desire; from the playground of your childhood, to people you like and associate with, to the brands of goods that fill your home, and so on.

Things happen from the top down, and all it takes quantitatively is virtually nothing at all when the right or necessary qualitative action or gesture is taken. And in the case of .US, from the beginning it would have taken virtually nothing at all to this very day and even now.

I'll put it in a list for the sake of simplicity and clarity. This is all it would have taken and all that it would take now for the world to be completely different re public awareness and popularity of .US:

1. The people in authority at the top levels of government in the US finally declare to the country the following, in one form or another:

A. .US exists.

B. .US is good.

C. .US is, it goes without saying, patriotic - the most patriotic thing there could possibly even be re the Internet for a citizen of this country.

D. We like .US.

E. We want you to know about and like .US.

F. We want you as the American people to value and make use of .US.

G. In the process of the above, we want you as the American people to become more knowledgeable and educated about what domain names even are, how they work, why they are so valuable to the health and strength of the US and its economy, and to make good use of them for good purposes in your life and the nation as you will. The result of such increased awareness could and would likely be nothing but beneficial to our nation and society.​

2. There is saying with your mouth, and there is saying with your actions. Ergo, in communicating and bringing about the above in both word and deed, the people in authority could have all this time and could even now simply use .US in highly visible ways, such as:

A. Political candidates begin using .US instead of .com or .org.

B. Government officials begin making use of .US instead of .com, .org, and in some cases instead of .gov as well.

C. One of the most psychologically impacting actions of all, if not the most, and one I have mentioned before: the US military no longer uses ".com" in its marketing, most particularly and especially in its television marketing. Instead, it uses the most patriotic Internet phenomenon there is re the USA, .US. So when those engaging TV commercials captivate your mind and your attention, which they do, the great and patriotic last thing you see is not Army.com, Navy.com, Airforce.com, Marines.com, etc. The last thing you see is Army.us, Navy.us, Airforce.us, Marines.us. That makes a statement and a psychological impact about the Internet and the World Wide Web bigger than the Grand Canyon, just as the presence of .com in those commercials all these years makes the same kind of statement in the other direction. And in the short term, if it looks like the need is apparent while the American public is still becoming aware that its own country code .US even exists at all, then you can even include the "www." until there is confidence the American public already knows enough because of the other actions and gestures to do without it, just as occurred with .com.
And no doubt so much more which others can think of that quantitatively speaking would take very little in terms of actual effort and expense, and in some cases would merely consist of swapping out .com, .org or .gov for .us.

But as long as the people in such positions in the great US have not done these things and will not do these things, then .US is where it is.

All of this is so obvious and always has been. So the question really is, why has none of this ever been done for all intents and purposes? One could speculate. In the meantime, it would be so simple and always has.

Think back to when .US was even finally released for general public use, by the way, April 2002. Just think about it for even one moment. At that time, the country was undergoing the greatest renaissance and explosion of renewed and fervent patriotism that we have probably ever seen in our lives, the only exception almost certainly being only those who lived through World War II itself, and which perhaps we ever will see in our lives, because of something which had occurred in our country literally only months before. And yet, when .us was released at that time, it was quietly released under a rock, and kept under a rock ever since, where it stayed. For all intents and purposes only those "in the know," in the know about domain names themselves, knew anything about it or even cared when it appeared that way. It doesn't get any more ironic than that.

Doing these things, finally doing what it takes to not only get the people in the US to even know that .US exists at all and finally spark the kind of popularity and desire that could only benefit the USA in so many ways, would be simpler and easier than even reading what I just wrote above. And that is what people do in one form or another whether figuratively or literally when they want to for virtually every other area of life.
 
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Simple Answer why .US will never catch on:

Registration Restrictions

Registration restrictions set by the registry include:

Citizen status—Registrant contact must be a U.S. citizen or permanent resident of the U.S. or have a primary residence in the U.S.

Domain use—Your reason for registering: business use, educational purposes, governmental purposes, etc.
 
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Simple Answer why .US will never catch on:

Registration Restrictions

Registration restrictions set by the registry include:

Citizen status—Registrant contact must be a U.S. citizen or permanent resident of the U.S. or have a primary residence in the U.S.

Domain use—Your reason for registering: business use, educational purposes, governmental purposes, etc.
No, it is what I wrote above.

In regard to registration restriction, it makes no difference. There has been plenty of cheating in that regard that people have seen in whois. It is the American public who literally and without any exaggeration whatsoever scarcely even knows that .US even exists at all, period, our own country code. Ask any American at all whom you don't already know is knowledgeable about such things a question like, "so what do you think of .us?" and the likely answer you'll get is they have no idea what you are talking about. Perhaps with some you may at least get a question like "what, is that some kind of Internet thing or something?" in return. The big irony is that it is people outside the US who apparently are far more aware and interested that .us even exists, and it has not kept a lot of them from registering them anyway regardless of the nexus rule. It doesn't even get any more clear than this example I have mentioned before: I am friends with an employee of the US federal government who has been working there for so long he is almost ready to retire. I would guess he's probably been a US federal employee for perhaps 25 to 35 years or so. Even this friend of mine who works for the US federal government itself did not know that .US even exists when we spoke about domain names and websites recently and I was seeking feedback from him on some.
 
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That's a very patriotic number, especially if you were around in 1976.
Yes I was around back then. You are the second person to ask my age. I can only assume I write as if I was younger than I am.
 
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Yes I was around back then. You are the second person to ask my age. I can only assume I write as if I was younger than I am.
That's great, I'm glad that you were, especially if you were also old enough to know what was going on with the Bicentennial and such. As for asking your age, your comment "all my life and domains have been more than half of it" lent itself to a lot of uncertainty as to what you meant in terms of time frame.
 
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That's great, I'm glad that you were, especially if you were also old enough to know what was going on with the Bicentennial and such. As for asking your age, your comment "I've been in the u.s. all my life and domains have been more than half of it" lent itself to a lot of uncertainty as to what you really meant in terms of time frame.
Bought my first domain name in 1998 and my life hasn't been the same since.
P.S I'm a bit younger than 76.
 
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Simple Answer why .US will never catch on:

Registration Restrictions
Even with the restrictions, the US is a big market of more than 320 million consumers so it is big enough to sustain a TLD. Canada is equally restricted and doing fairly well. So is .au and a few other ccTLDs. But it's true that many ccTLDs are unrestricted nowadays, and the trend is toward relaxed rules.

The big irony is that it is people outside the US who apparently are far more aware and interested that .us even exists, and it has not kept a lot of them from registering them anyway regardless of the nexus rule.
It's true, some of the most prominent users of .us are subsidiaries of foreign companies. They are used to using ccTLDs in the markets where they operate, so they have no bias against .us. It's just another ccTLD.
 
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Even with the restrictions, the US is a big market of more than 320 million consumers so it is big enough to sustain a TLD. Canada is equally restricted and doing fairly well. So is .au and a few other ccTLDs. But it's true that many ccTLDs are unrestricted nowadays, and the trend is toward relaxed rules.

It's true, some of the most prominent users of .us are subsidiaries of foreign companies. They are used to using ccTLDs in the markets where they operate, so they have no bias against .us. It's just another ccTLD.
Honestly, Kate, how could you make me wait so long before posting here again? I thought you might never show up. :)

And as for your second point - folks check this probably little known example out: Poker.us. 888 is one of the biggest international brands in gaming.
 
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