See you around

[Elad n]

See you around guys, i wont be using this platform anymore since they shut my mouth and removed my avatar.

They say its not professional so the PROFESSIONAL thing to do is to ask them to close my account.

Good luck you all!

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Moderator response:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7754873/

Important questions:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7749064/

 

[Joe N]

Clearly you haven't been active enough to see that member had chosen that profile picture a long, long time ago - at least three years ago, likely more. Amanda, Eric, Edward ...multiple mods have seen that image thousands of times and taken no action - even some of the more aggressive moderators chose not to take action all these years.

Are you going to hunt down the two or three accounts I see using Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Terminator?

Are you going to hunt down the users that use hot babes as their avatars?

I've been here for four years, so yes I've seen Elad's avatar a number of times. It didn't bother me in the least.

Is it unprofessional? Yes, I could see the argument for that.

Am I going to hunt down other people who have similar avatars? No, I couldn't care less.

I'm aware that many mods have seen Elad's picture many times. @Mod Team Bravo did provide an explanation earlier on for why it may have never been reported. He also mentioned that NP now wants to go in a new, more professional direction.

At the end of the day, the cardinal rule still holds: If a mod asks you to do something... listen first, discuss later.

 

[equity78]

Are you going to hunt down the users that use hot babes as their avatars?

I do not believe the mods have any other option but to do that, they opened Pandora's box, anything short of that means Elad N was unfairly singled out.

Bye bye logos of iconic companies, bye bye breasts and booty pics, bye bye cartoons, monsters, weed and beer pics, bye bye any weapons pics, bye bye anything that triggers another member.

 

[equity78]

I will say this I do not believe anyone on planet Earth equates Namepros with LinkedIN, everyone going to start using their real name? It could be argued that while doing business for real money, real names are the only thing that's professional. It's a binding agreement to do business here right? It goes awry and goes to court,

Your honor stewie from Family Guy has not paid me my $2,500 for NH.tv?
Judge: Stewie from Family Guy???
Your honor that was the avatar and user name on the professional forum where I transacted the sale.
Judge: Get out of my court.
Your honor it's a professional forum.

 

[Compassion]

I've been here for four years, so yes I've seen Elad's avatar a number of times. It didn't bother me in the least.

Is it unprofessional? Yes, I could see the argument for that.

Am I going to hunt down other people who have similar avatars? No, I couldn't care less.

I'm aware that many mods have seen Elad's picture many times. @Mod Team Bravo did provide an explanation earlier on for why it may have never been reported. He also mentioned that NP now wants to go in a new, more professional direction.

At the end of the day, the cardinal rule still holds: If a mod asks you to do something... listen first, discuss later.

Then the PROFESSIONAL thing to do would make a PUBLIC post about going towards a more professional image for the forum which would include a tightening of what is allowed as an avatar BEFORE swiping the avatar from someone that had been using an avatar for so long.


You know...ESTABLISH A PRECEDENT.

A functional ethical compass would have guided NamePros to create a template so DUE PROCESS could transpire case by case rather than the underhanded method used on our fellow member of good standing.

 

[hawkeye]

But the only way you can have order in any setting where laws are open to interpretation, is for everyone to agree that someone (or some people) have the final say. And when someone has the final say, you listen to them first, and seek to make changes later (if you disagree).

Of course this is hypothetical but seriously...if someone joins the forum and recognizes your name or picture as a serial killer, rapist, or whatever kind of criminal from some where and is offended by your 'long time in use' name/picture and feels it's inappropriate and should be removed, and a mod decides they agree and asks you to change your name 'now' because of such; you are insinuating you'd have no problem doing so and right then on the spot?? No pre-established reasoning's or rules of, just a mod suddenly telling you to do so! (And please use your parenting it's the 'right thing to do' reasoning that you use in your life.)

 

[equity78]

my suggestion would be to allow only the following:

1. A picture of the member (inoffensive, of course).
2. A picture of the member's business logo (again, inoffensive).
3. A default picture provided by NP.

It's the only logical choice in my opinion.

 

[bmugford]

It's the only logical choice in my opinion.

Like Raymond said above, this decision really opens up Pandora's Box.
Best of luck dealing with it.

Brad

 

[Joe N]

Then the PROFESSIONAL thing to do would make a PUBLIC post about going towards a more professional image for the forum which would include a tightening of what is allowed as an avatar BEFORE swiping the avatar from someone that had been using an avatar for so long.


You know...ESTABLISH A PRECEDENT.

A functional ethical compass would have guided NamePros to create a template so DUE PROCESS could transpire case by case rather than the underhanded method used on our fellow member of good standing.

Agreed. NP made a mistake here. Shame that Elad ignored established precedent of doing what a mod asks of you, or he could have spear-headed the discussion on making that right.

 

[Joe N]

Of course this is hypothetical but seriously...if someone joins the forum and recognizes your name or picture as a serial killer, rapist, or whatever kind of criminal from some where and is offended by your 'long time in use' name/picture and feels it's inappropriate and should be removed, and a mod decides they agree and asks you to change your name 'now' because of such; you are insinuating you'd have no problem doing so and right then on the spot?? No pre-established reasoning's or rules of, just a mod suddenly telling you to do so! (And please use your parenting it's the 'right thing to do' reasoning that you use in your life.)

If I were personally accused of being a rapist and was asked to change my picture based on that accusation?? Uh yes, I would have a problem with that. I would leave the forum.

 

[hawkeye]

That's not what I said. I said if your pic or name was similar to such. And I said 'hypothetically'. Could be anything they saw and didn't like or feel was right.

 

[Joe N]

Like Raymond said above, this decision really opens up Pandora's Box.
Best of luck dealing with it.

Brad

It certainly does. I think it raises a wide variety of other questions.

Like, what does "professional" mean for NP? Maybe it means more exclusive. Maybe it means all members need to provide NP with valid photo ID to prove their identity. That would certainly weed out the fake profiles and trolls.

Maybe it even means all members must pay an annual fee.

I think it could be an interesting direction if they're serious about it. And being serious about it is the only way to make a real, noticeable change. It'll mean prioritizing what they want from the forum, and possibly a lot of manual validation.

 

[Joe N]

That's not what I said. I said if your pic or name was similar to such. And I said 'hypothetically'. Could be anything they saw and didn't like or feel was right.

Oh okay. Yeah I'd still leave the forum.

 

[bmugford]

So now I see Riz M. is 85%-100% restricted also.

So in this one thread NamePros lost Elad, and at least Mary Muse, .X., and Riz M. have all been almost fully restricted.

I don't really understand what is going on. It seems like something changed overnight.

To NamePros mods, you need to take some responsibility here. At some point everyone else is not the issue. Do you think any of this responsibility might fall squarely on your own decisions?

Brad

 

[hawkeye]

Ok, well I feel your grin in your pic is a condescending smirk, and it is offensive as it implies you are superior here over all the members and should be changed. Off to complain/report such to a mod.

 

[Sutruk]

It certainly does. I think it raises a wide variety of other questions.

Like, what does "professional" mean for NP? Maybe it means more exclusive. Maybe it means all members need to provide NP with valid photo ID to prove their identity. That would certainly weed out the fake profiles and trolls.

Maybe it even means all members must pay an annual fee.

I think it could be an interesting direction if they're serious about it. And being serious about it is the only way to make a real, noticeable change. It'll mean prioritizing what they want from the forum, and possibly a lot of manual validation.

If it works, don't touch it.
I think that this forum has been running for the last 17 years and working quite fine.
As for today, the domain names forum of reference.
You just have to change how it works, to crush all the good work done.

 

[Joe N]

Ok, well I feel your grin in your pic is a condescending smirk, and it is offensive as it implies you are superior here over all the members and should be changed. Off to complain/report such to a mod.

That's certainly your right. If they ask me to change my picture, I'll have to make a decision about the strength of my convictions.

 

[Joe N]

If it works, don't touch it.
I think that this forum has been running for the last 17 years and working quite fine.
As for today, the domain names forum of reference.
You just have to change how it works, to crush all the good work done.

Personally speaking, I would love logging in here knowing that only respectful and professional domainers are kicking around. There's a lot of wasted noise and space in this forum.

 

[hawkeye]

That's certainly your right. If they ask me to change my picture, I'll have to make a decision about the strength of my convictions.

I'm sure Joe you've never had a speeding ticket or have ever spit on a sidewalk. "You're an oak!"

 

[Sutruk]

Personally speaking, I would love logging in here knowing that only respectful and professional domainers are kicking around. There's a lot of wasted noise and space in this forum.

The respect is earned by your actions, not by your pic.

 

[Joe N]

I'm sure Joe you've never had a speeding ticket or have ever spit on a sidewalk. "You're an oak!"