See you around

[Elad n]

See you around guys, i wont be using this platform anymore since they shut my mouth and removed my avatar.

They say its not professional so the PROFESSIONAL thing to do is to ask them to close my account.

Good luck you all!

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Moderator response:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7754873/

Important questions:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7749064/

 

[Joe N]

Well, clearly not the community....I guess.

Brad

I think the community is an important part of it for sure. But I think there is a right way and a wrong way to make the community voice heard.

 

[Joe N]

You asked me what the mistake was, I told you. It's really not the complicated. Mods make mistakes sometimes, they're human. Simple solution would be to correct it and move on.

The Mod never had the opportunity to correct it (or not) because of the actions (reactions) of the OP.

 

[bmugford]

I think the community is an important part of it for sure. But I think there is a right way and a wrong way to make the community voice heard.

And what is the right way?

It is blatantly obvious from the poll results that the community disagrees with the mods actions.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

The Mod never had the opportunity to correct it (or not) because of the actions (reactions) of the OP.

Well, they have since had plenty of opportunities to step back, but instead escalated the issues with many of their responses and ban hammers.

Brad

 

[JB Lions]

The Mod never had the opportunity to correct it (or not) because of the actions (reactions) of the OP.

That makes no sense. Mods can correct stuff anytime, doesn't matter if there is a thread on it or not. Sometimes people will get mad when completely ridiculous decisions are made. Again, that human thing.

 

[Joe N]

And what is the right way?

It is blatantly obvious from the poll results that the community disagrees with the mods actions.

Brad

The right way is to raise the issue and discuss it in a constructive way, without mocking anyone or putting people down.

The irony of this whole thread is mind-boggling... Most people on here are enraged at the subjective actions being taken by a mod. And their justification for their anger is their own subjective feelings!

 

[JB Lions]

The right way is to raise the issue and discuss it in a constructive way, without mocking anyone or putting people down.

Did you actually read the first page of the thread, the screenshot? That's exactly the type of tone NP took with that member. "We're surprised............"

From what I've read other members have had great interaction with him. You don't base professionalism off some avatar.

 

[bmugford]

The irony of this whole thread is mind-boggling... Most people on here are enraged at the subjective actions being taken by a mod. And their justification for their anger is their own subjective feelings!

Are any feelings objective? Pretty sure that is not how feelings work.

At some point when there is a 71-2 vote that subjectivity goes out the window.
The community has spoken.

Brad

 

[Joe N]

Well, they have since had plenty of opportunities to step back, but instead escalated the issues with many of their responses and ban hammers.

Brad

I think there's an important issue of principle at play here.

Decisions like asking someone to remove an avatar will never be perfect, because they rely on subjectivity. We need to accept this.

By accepting to participate in this form, we have all agreed to abide by the subjectivity of the mods. If at any time we disagree with their choices, we have an opportunity to discuss the problem in a respectful way. If we don't like the results, we have the choice to leave.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

It's worth noting that this policy is not new; there have been standards for avatars and usernames since 2015, which includes disallowing potential trademark infringement.

Here are some examples of usernames that were changed in the past:

• CaptainJackass
• name-prostitute
• seosperm
• cox4ass
• nortoncomsetup
• skypesupport
• wwhatdafuq
• ezstrippoker
• Dirtbag11
• Quicken Support
• sexisfree
• Realpoopypants
• Smelly Scammer
• Deltaairline800
• Get scamed
• unitedairlines
• Justmycock79
• cumsh0t

We can probably agree that some of these are worse than others, but does the community need to have usernames like these?

 

[Joe N]

Are any feelings objective? Pretty sure that is not how feelings work.

At some point when there is a 71-2 vote that subjectivity goes out the window.
The community has spoken.

Brad

But the poll poses a question that has no bearing on what transpired.

The real question here is... When is it okay to ignore a request from a Mod?

 

[JB Lions]

It's worth noting that this policy is not new; there have been standards for avatars and usernames since 2015, which includes disallowing potential trademark infringement.

Here are some examples of usernames that were changed in the past:

• CaptainJackass
• name-prostitute
• seosperm
• cox4ass
• nortoncomsetup
• skypesupport
• wwhatdafuq
• ezstrippoker
• Dirtbag11
• Quicken Support
• sexisfree
• Realpoopypants
• Smelly Scammer
• Deltaairline800
• Get scamed
• unitedairlines
• Justmycock79
• cumsh0t

We can probably agree that some of these are worse than others, but does the community need to have usernames like these?

You literally have people that get market-restricted for good reasons, that you still let use this forum. Does this community need people like that? Spammers? You literally bumped a spam thread yesterday. People/Companies listed on hate-watch sites? Somebody's avatar is the issue?

 

[equity78]

It's worth noting that this policy is not new; there have been standards for avatars and usernames since 2015, which includes disallowing potential trademark infringement.

Here are some examples of usernames that were changed in the past:

• CaptainJackass
• name-prostitute
• seosperm
• cox4ass
• nortoncomsetup
• skypesupport
• wwhatdafuq
• ezstrippoker
• Dirtbag11
• Quicken Support
• sexisfree
• Realpoopypants
• Smelly Scammer
• Deltaairline800
• Get scamed
• unitedairlines
• Justmycock79
• cumsh0t

We can probably agree that some of these are worse than others, but does the community need to have usernames like these?

Might want to get the people using a Facebook Icon to change, are they Facebook? I don't have a problem with it but if we are talking impersonating or professional.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

In the interest of progress, here are some things that would help if we discussed them:

1. Do you think that all usernames and avatars should be allowed?
2. Do you think that avatars which are suggestive of murder (or connote murder) are professional? If so, why?
3. Do you think that a professional community needs to have avatars where arguably one of the best actors of our generation is doing his best to convey "I want to kill you" with his facial expressions?
4. Do you think avatars like #2 and #3 encourage a professional atmosphere?
5. What types of avatars and usernames should we disallow if we want to improve professionalism?

#5 is the most important question.

Thanks.

Edited to add one more question that accidentally got deleted before posting.

 

[Joe N]

Might want to get the people using a Facebook Icon to change, are they Facebook? I don't have a problem with it but if we are talking impersonating or professional.Show attachment 152836

I just noticed that one myself!

 

[Joe N]

In the interest of progress, here are some thing that would help if we discussed them:

1. Do you think that all usernames and avatars should be allowed?
2. Do you think that avatars which are suggestive of murder (or connote murder) are professional? If so, why?
3. Do you think that a professional community needs to have avatars where arguably one of the best actors of our generation is doing his best to convey "I want to kill you" with his facial expressions?
4. What types of avatars and usernames should we disallow if we want to improve professionalism?

#5 is the most important question.

Thanks.

I think there are two directions that can be taken (if NP wants to go the "more professional" route):

1. People must use defined types of avatars that leave no room for subjective decision-making.
2. People pick their own avatars, understanding that they must be professional, and all members accept that mods have final say of what is considered professional.

 

[JB Lions]

I think there are two directions that can be taken (if NP wants to go the "more professional" route):

1. People must use defined types of avatars that leave no room for subjective decision-making.
2. People pick their own avatars, understanding that they must be professional, and all members accept that mods have final say of what is considered professional.

Or you can leave it the way it was for the last 17 years and simply not overreact to an avatar getting flagged. 1 person has an issue and now you want to fundamentally change it?

 

[equity78]

In the interest of progress, here are some thing that would help if we discussed them:

1. Do you think that all usernames and avatars should be allowed?
2. Do you think that avatars which are suggestive of murder (or connote murder) are professional? If so, why?
3. Do you think that a professional community needs to have avatars where arguably one of the best actors of our generation is doing his best to convey "I want to kill you" with his facial expressions?
4. What types of avatars and usernames should we disallow if we want to improve professionalism?

#5 is the most important question.

Thanks.

I can see where you are coming from and I don't like horror movies and not a Shining fanboi, but it's iconic. JB used to use Michael Corleone for a long time he killed a lot more people than Nicholson in that movie, would that not be allowed? If you want to go down a road fine, while I don't agree make it universal.

Cartoons are not professional
Other characters who committed crimes in movies not professional
People getting high or drunk in pics not professional

etc.............

 

[Joe N]

In the interest of progress, here are some thing that would help if we discussed them:

1. Do you think that all usernames and avatars should be allowed?
2. Do you think that avatars which are suggestive of murder (or connote murder) are professional? If so, why?
3. Do you think that a professional community needs to have avatars where arguably one of the best actors of our generation is doing his best to convey "I want to kill you" with his facial expressions?
4. Do you think avatars like #2 and #3 encourage a professional atmosphere?
5. What types of avatars and usernames should we disallow if we want to improve professionalism?

#5 is the most important question.

Thanks.

I should also say that #2 and #3 are leading questions and should maybe be re-phrased in an objective way.

 

[Joe N]

Or you can leave it the way it was for the last 17 years and simply not overreact to an avatar getting flagged.

NP seems to be saying they want to make a change, so I was offering my opinion within that understanding.