Sedo: Taking legal action against a non-paying buyer!!

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Has anyone successfully taken legal action over a non-paying Sedo buyer?

I had a Fixed Price listing on Sedo where the "buyer" purchase this name for high $x,xxx. After a number of attempts from Sedo to get payment, they haven't paid or responded & I managed to get the buyers details from Sedo after asking them many times.

Sedo only gives the company name, contact person, suburb, state & country but not the contact number or email address & when requesting that info, they come up with a BS excuse saying:

Sorry, but we can only provide you with the data the buyer indicated (name, address) as we have no other data. Due to data security data we are not allowed to indicate the e-mail address or phone number.

Both the "buyer" (company) & I live in the same state & country (Australia). After doing some Google searches, it doesn't bring up much info but I am pretty sure that I know they own another company which sells this product name domain they were buying off me.

My questions is:

1. Has anyone successfully taken legal action over a non-paying Sedo buyer?
2. Is there any way of getting the exact details to confirm the phone number, email & whole address of the "buyer"? Or maybe is there somewhere to do a search to find this? Or is there anyone here with access that can do this search for me please?

Any help would be appreciated!

 

[Domainace]

This seems like a colossal waste of time and energy, and almost guaranteed frustration. I'm no legal expert, but I doubt your chances there too.

I know these people piss me off too, but I think it's personally destructive to put too much energy into hunting them down, especially when the chance of reward is so small. I'd rather use the energy for something positive. And I can't imagine you ever seeing a dollar from the guy.

 

[dninspire]

not likely and like already said a possible waste of time. i have had 2 that never came through on the payment and I have another which is 6 days old (not saying they wont produce the dough but....tick tock).

it can be an emotional rollercoaster at times but in the end its how you handle it and move forward. if you just have lots of time to spend chasing someone down and trying to force them to buy something either they dont really want or moreover maybe cant afford then have at it, but i would take the high road and move on.

good luck however you decide to proceed.

zic

 

[silentg]

They won't help you get the money but they'll go after the user to pay the commission if he wants to keep his account active.

 

[alien51]

Just out of curiosity, if you say you want to take legal action, i suppose "breach of contract"?

I did wonder in the past myself thinking how Sedo can actually pursue these unpaid commissions, especially that these kind of escrow transactions can cross global bounderies. Say if the buyer is somewhere from China or Nigeria...? They'll probably just ban the account and forget about it?

 

[gilescoley]

Sedo only gives the company name, contact person, suburb, state & country but not the contact number or email address & when requesting that info, they come up with a BS excuse saying:

If you have the contact person, it shouldn't be hard to get his/her email address or phone number.

I really hate people like that, I would drop them an email letting them know that there could be legal action if the sale is not completed.

Even if you don't follow through, people like that need a little scare, it might stop them doing it next time.

 

[devTastic]

What a DB - but yes I wouldn't bother with the frustration of going after that person - it will just cost you more time and money IMO.

 

[htmlindex]

If you have the contact person, it shouldn't be hard to get his/her email address or phone number.

I have already found what I think is the correct person & emailed them on the email on their site reminding them of their legal obligations & that we also fall under the same countries law. The email didn't bounce back but they haven't bothered to respond & just ignored it.

This seems like a colossal waste of time and energy, and almost guaranteed frustration. I'm no legal expert, but I doubt your chances there too.

I would've thought that the chances should be quite reasonable as we are in the same country as well as the same state, and they have entered a legally binding contract which they have broke. And this isn't a small amount of money either, it's high $x,xxx.

I've never taken legal action before for anything, but I would've thought that you could apply for a Small Claims court of something like that in my country & that it shouldn't be hard to lose this case. Then you would get a court order & send in a Sheriff or Debt Collector to claim.

I would think that this should be similar to if a tenant owes you money or any other business that hasn't paid up.

Would this sound right? It shouldn't take up too much time, would it?

 

[Makis.TV]

I ve been many times in this situation. Last one was some months ago were buyer never padi and not only that he returned with same contact details making another lower bid after ruining my auction.
He even emailed me about this same domain.
I asked my lawyer about it and I was told that it will cost me more in time and money to go after him since the money he avoided paying were about $1.5K.
Sedo is nothing else than a transfer platform, you take all the risks and they just take the commission.

 

[Name Trader]

Personally I would have been much more "friendly" with my first contact, than to mention any legal stuff. Get the "lay of the land" first. Ask them if are they intending to complete the purchase.

 

[Weber]

Any kind of auction I've attended requires a deposit in order to bid.
The deposit is forfeited if the buyer fails to complete the transaction.
Considering the number of complaints, it's unconscionable that they would not implement such a requirement.
The present system is unacceptable.

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They won't help you get the money but they'll go after the user to pay the commission if he wants to keep his account active.

At the very least, that would be a breach of trust.

 

[promo]

I once got so pissed that I put up a "name and shame" page on the domain which stated that I had a legally binding contract with the company in question and it was breached.. I think I went as far as advising anyone not to do business with the company. I then proceeded to email a link to the person in question.

In my case I had both contact person and company name. I am not a libel expert so it might be bad advice.. However I had the company on the phone within a matter of days and they eventually completed the sale.

 

[ThreeD]

Sedo in general is a big waste of time

 

[Weber]

I have already found what I think is the correct person & emailed them on the email on their site reminding them of their legal obligations & that we also fall under the same countries law. The email didn't bounce back but they haven't bothered to respond & just ignored it.



I would've thought that the chances should be quite reasonable as we are in the same country as well as the same state, and they have entered a legally binding contract which they have broke. And this isn't a small amount of money either, it's high $x,xxx.

I've never taken legal action before for anything, but I would've thought that you could apply for a Small Claims court of something like that in my country & that it shouldn't be hard to lose this case. Then you would get a court order & send in a Sheriff or Debt Collector to claim.

I would think that this should be similar to if a tenant owes you money or any other business that hasn't paid up.

Would this sound right? It shouldn't take up too much time, would it?

Your very lucky if they are in the same state or even the same country. I'm assuming this is in the U.S.
All of the details should be available online with a search online for "small claims" for your state/county. Details vary. Many states limit the amount to $10,000 or less and you might have to file your suit with the county/precinct office that the defendent lives in. There is also a time limit. Be aware that even if a judgement is made in your favor, there is no guarantee that you will necessarily be able to collect the money, at least any time soon.

If it's straight forward, with no changes or appeal, it shouldn't take more than a day of your time for the trial, if that.
You'll also have to spend time filing your claim, which could be the better part of a day in some places.

 

[Optimal Names]

They won't help you get the money but they'll go after the user to pay the commission if he wants to keep his account active.

Oh really? So the scam artist can breach a purchase contract with Sedo and they'll do what they can to get their commission, but the buyer has to remain compliant to THIS type of BS:

The suspension of the transfer does not affect the Purchase & Sales Agreement between you as the seller and the buyer. Sedo will place the transfer on hold for as long as is necessary for you to complete this transaction.

If that is the case, I am pulling ALL of my names from Sedo. They do not need my business anymore.

 

[SpareDomains]

I got a list of deadbeats built up over the years. Would it be fun to drag a shithead to court you bet your ass. I've opted for time is money, don't count the dough till it clears and don't use anonymous auction houses so leads come direct instead. :hehe:

 

[carob]

This non-paying buyer problem is one that just does not need to exist. Sedo could just take card details and not let people click the buy button without being committed to buying the domain or paying a penalty fee of say $1000.

As far as dealing with sellers who do not deliver, see this other thread https://www.namepros.com/domain-nam...do-their-slow-transfer-specialists-there.html

Why do Sedo not want to fix these problems.

 

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