Sedo.com - Official Thread

[Sedo]

Hi All! :hi:

By request, we've decided to start a thread dedicated to Sedo. We're looking for invaluable insight into what domainers want and need out of our parking program (and marketplace, of course).

Questions, comments, suggestions, tips are welcome! We're hoping this will be a great discussion about what works at Sedo and what might not (please be constructive and respectful to others in your feedback) so that everyone involved can benefit and learn from it.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas! Happy Holidays!

Always,
Keith
(on behalf of Sedo)

 

[Sedo]

My "views of offer" figures are going down. A few of my domains have lower views of offer amount than they did yesterday. i.e yesterday 330 - today 302. Anyone else having the same ?

The unique visits are based on 32 days of traffic. So each day after the first day of the 32 day cycle the number will be less because 1 day of traffic is being subtracted.

-Stephanie

 

[kemjika11]

The unique visits are based on 32 days of traffic. So each day after the first day of the 32 day cycle the number will be less because 1 day of traffic is being subtracted.

-Stephanie

i think this is actually a bad default that sedo should remove. When i log in, everyone usually wants to see the stats from the current month, so defaulting to the past 32 days(like asssuming we're in mid month of the current month) really is deceptive, and you have to start selecting options to see what your actual stats for this month are. I think sedo should change it so that your default view is the stats for the current month only.

 

[exsedo]

Do you mean "unique views" or "views of offer" Stephanie ? I was referring to "views of offer" in my post. "Unique views" are totally different. I think I understand it now. Please correct me if I am wrong. The "unique views" are on the 32 day cycle. 1 "unique view" also counts as 1 "view of offer". When 1 "unique view" is deducted, 1 "view of offer" is also deducted.

 

[maxeaus]

I must admit, i find the whole listing domains for auction caper at Sedo rather ambiguous. Let me try to get this right. By placing $60 (the min i believe) in the "minimum offer" box, and leaving the "price" box blank, this means if somebody bids $60, you are presented with an offer to go to auction?

If you leave all boxes blank, you will recieve all offers to buy the domain. If you add a price in the "price" box, that is the fixed price to buy the domain? Once you are presented with an offer to go to auction, you can then set a reserve price? Or, if you accept to go to auction, at the $60, you are obliged to sell the domain if there are no other bidders? Am i even close on this?

 

[Sleepys]

Hello,

If I am a member of sedopro.com, how can I invite other members to join SEDOPRO?

In parked.com there is this link called referral. In sedopro, what should we do?

Look on the left side of the page, under the My Sedo links, under the Pro Statistics section. There is a little banner that says "Recommend a freind for SedoPro Membership...". This is a link for you to give Sedopro referrals. I know that it does not look like a link and I had to ask my account manager the same thing when I tried to give my first referral.

If you leave all boxes blank, you will recieve all offers to buy the domain. If you add a price in the "price" box, that is the fixed price to buy the domain? Once you are presented with an offer to go to auction, you can then set a reserve price? Or, if you accept to go to auction, at the $60, you are obliged to sell the domain if there are no other bidders? Am i even close on this?

If you leave the price blank, then you can receive any offer $60 or over. You have the option to accept any offer you get, counter the offer, or send it to auction at the offer. You have 7 days to respond each time, and if you choose to send it to auction, your 7 day auction actually began when you got the offer, so don't take too long. If you set a price, it is simply a higher minimum offer than $60. The problem with setting a price is that the Sedo message states "Seller's price expectation" rather than "Minimum bid". If you set $700 and get a $700 offer, they may be very upset to see you raise your "price expectation". If you leave it at $60, you don't have to worry about that, but you will get many more lowball/$60 offers. You can not set a reserve when you send a domain to auction with an offer. Basically, by sending it to auction, you are accepting their offer. Their offer is the first bid, and if no one else bids, you sell it to them at that price. If you want a reserve on an auction at Sedo, you must submit your name to Sedo for a premium auction. If it is accepted, you can set a reserve.

Do you mean "unique views" or "views of offer" Stephanie ? I was referring to "views of offer" in my post. "Unique views" are totally different.

I think that they both are based on the stats from the past 32 days.

 

[maxeaus]

WOW, that was quick, and precise.
SEDO should give you a job Sleepys! :great:

 

[exsedo]

Thats the thing about the Internet, so annonymous. He might even be the founder of Sedo. lol

 

[Sleepys]

Thats the thing about the Internet, so annonymous. He might even be the founder of Sedo. lol

:lol: That just made my day. Very funny.

WOW, that was quick, and precise.
SEDO should give you a job Sleepys! :great:

The truth is I have come across about 80% of the problems I see on here and have had to come up with solutions to them. It is my pleasure to help when I have an answer.

About working at Sedo. My former account manager told me that Sedo has very strict rules for employees domaining. The further into domaining you are the more of a problem this would be. Also, I don't live in Massachusetts or Germany, which is a requirement. Sedo did start this thread from my suggestion, and I said I could offer assistence wherever I was able. I have no affiliation with Sedo beyond domain parking and sales, but if they want to pay me for wonderful posts, that would be great :hehe: Just kidding. Honestly, there is reward in helping others, and many people on Namepros have helped me out before.

 

[Sedo]

Do you mean "unique views" or "views of offer" Stephanie ? I was referring to "views of offer" in my post. "Unique views" are totally different. I think I understand it now. Please correct me if I am wrong. The "unique views" are on the 32 day cycle. 1 "unique view" also counts as 1 "view of offer". When 1 "unique view" is deducted, 1 "view of offer" is also deducted.

Hi,

Your "Views of Offer" are based on the unique views to your offer page, and are based on 32 days of traffic, just as your parked pages "unique views" are recorded. If your traffic decreases during the following 32 days, those views will be subtracted.
-Stephanie

I must admit, i find the whole listing domains for auction caper at Sedo rather ambiguous. Let me try to get this right. By placing $60 (the min i believe) in the "minimum offer" box, and leaving the "price" box blank, this means if somebody bids $60, you are presented with an offer to go to auction?

If you leave all boxes blank, you will recieve all offers to buy the domain. If you add a price in the "price" box, that is the fixed price to buy the domain? Once you are presented with an offer to go to auction, you can then set a reserve price? Or, if you accept to go to auction, at the $60, you are obliged to sell the domain if there are no other bidders? Am i even close on this?

Hi Maxeaus,

Our marketplace minimum is $60, so you will not be able to receive any offers within our marketplace for under $60 to begin with. This is to ensure that our commission fee is covered in a sales transaction.

When the “Minimum Offer” price option is filled out, you will not be able to receive any offers lower than your listed price. This price will not be visible to buyers when they visit your offer page, but they will be notified when they place an offer lower than that amount so that they may raise their offer price.

You may also set a “Price Expectation” for your domains. This price will be visible to buyers on your offer page and they will be able to place offers for any amount, but being as your expectation has been disclosed, you are more likely to receive offers that meet or come close the price that you have set.

-Stephanie

 

[gazzip]

Hi Stephanie, can we please have the option to display visitor stats or not, it seems to have disappeared !

Thanks


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[exsedo]

As Sedo is one of the biggest and top rated Domain Auction and sales sites, there are some issues that are rather disturbing. Another issue for me is the technical side, ie keeping information up to date. Going back to my previous recent posts, I would like to offer an appraisal on current top domain listing. DEBTMEDITATION.CO.UK. All other extensions available to register, GOOGLE search for "debt meditation" reveals 59 results. If this domain was ever worth more than the registration fees then without a doubt the .com extension would have been snapped up. So another worthless domain gets past the GODS at Sedo Brokers Dep. ( by the way, this domain must have been dropped as the . co .uk is now available to register). With no explanations being offered as to why these domains get through the stringent rules of top domains qualification, and many more like this one listed in TOP DOMAINS, the only thing left for me to assume is CORRUPTION. After all this is an officially dedicatated Sedo thread and therefore the GODS in the BROKERAGE dept have had plenty of opportunity to come here and post an explanation instead of leaving their colleagues floundering to cover up the problem. As I have stated many times before, EVERYONE LIKES A FAIR MARKETPLACE.

 

[Sedo]

As Sedo is one of the biggest and top rated Domain Auction and sales sites, there are some issues that are rather disturbing. Another issue for me is the technical side, ie keeping information up to date. Going back to my previous recent posts, I would like to offer an appraisal on current top domain listing. DEBTMEDITATION.CO.UK. All other extensions available to register, GOOGLE search for "debt meditation" reveals 59 results. If this domain was ever worth more than the registration fees then without a doubt the .com extension would have been snapped up. So another worthless domain gets past the GODS at Sedo Brokers Dep. ( by the way, this domain must have been dropped as the . co .uk is now available to register). With no explanations being offered as to why these domains get through the stringent rules of top domains qualification, and many more like this one listed in TOP DOMAINS, the only thing left for me to assume is CORRUPTION. After all this is an officially dedicatated Sedo thread and therefore the GODS in the BROKERAGE dept have had plenty of opportunity to come here and post an explanation instead of leaving their colleagues floundering to cover up the problem. As I have stated many times before, EVERYONE LIKES A FAIR MARKETPLACE.

I don't see the domain in question on the Top Domains List.

You can view that list here:

http://sedo.com/search/searchresult...id=&language=us&top=1&listing_type=offer_only

-Stephanie

Hi Stephanie, can we please have the option to display visitor stats or not, it seems to have disappeared !

Thanks


.

The "Analyze this Domain" option should be back up next week, as the company providing that feed is making improvements.

-Stephanie

 

[gazzip]

The "Analyze this Domain" option should be back up next week, as the company providing that feed is making improvements.

-Stephanie

Hi Stephanie, what I meant was being able to choose if we wanted to display the "Visitors to this domain’s website: 31 (previous 31 days)" part.

Before we had the option to switch it off for less than 50 visitors. I would like that option to be restored if possible.


I have also spent ages trying to manually set up the "Edit Related Links" section

It appears not to work all the time, sometimes it does but often it does'nt.

I have set these on a number of my domains and although in my control panel the keywords show, they do not change anything on the live parking page.

...any suggestions ? am I doing something wrong ?

Thanks


Added - Two more questions just popped up

How do I edit the description section now ? I can't get to it the same way anymore.

Where is the part that allows you to link to the rest of your portfolio from your offer page (not that I want to) - I want to make sure its swiched off !

Thanks


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[exsedo]

Hi Stephanie, At this moment the domain mentioned is on page 49 of the Top Domains list. Nice reply . BUT THE QUESTION REMAINS UNANSWERED.

Some of my imagined guidelines from Sedo customer services training manual. To admit a mistake only draws attention to it, so if you cannot conceal a mistake quote some semi-relevant information and then let silence keep it from prominence. Avoid giving direct answers, when faced with embarassing questions, know how to give evasive answers. Never deal with the truth, the truth is troublesome.

 

[wot]

When are you guys going to get your fingers out and allow domainers to sell idn.cn , idn.com etc in asian characters.

How difficult can it be :?

 

[allroundguy]

Lost sale from neighbour because of Sedo policy ... etc. ...

There are two families with a pc and Internet in this building.
We put recently a domain on Sedo.
It came on to auction.
We explained to somebody how we do to make money from domain trading.
We showed how to earn from the parking and the affiliate program.
They then made an offer on our domain, from our pc.
Sedo cancelled the auction because of their policy that people nearby should not bid on our domains.

Result:
We are not happy because of the missed sale.
Our neighbor is not happy because of missed purchase.
Our neighbor has big questions about Us and about Sedo.
And Sedo missed the commission.

Conclusion:
Sedo owns Sedo.
It is their policies.
Customers agree to the policies.
We should not have allow people to bid on our domain to get it.
We will not do it again.

Eventually, who cares about who buys and pays for a domain?
If it is sold and Sedo cashes the commission, who cares?
And if the high bidder does not pay, who is to blame?
Not the seller!
There are many non-paying bidders.
Don't say it is not, because we had that ourself.
If challenged, we can post it down here.
It was up to us to get a case in court.

Sedo would be probably better off by removing the questioned policy.
In the mean time, we have removed all Sedo banners and links from all our 400+ websites.

Also, Sedo did not ever accept any of our domains for a top listing.
So we kept paying for featured listings.
But Sedo should consequently not accept domains that absolutely not respond to their quality claims as to be short etc.
There are many domains top listed that are long and describe things that we never heard of.

We understand that Sedo is a business that needs to sell.
We understand policies, and necessity to abide or quit.
We understand that some service need to be paid for.

We don't understand how Sedo dares to say how much a domain is worth, based upon irrelevant information.
Everybody has individual ideas about domain value.
We are seriously upset about the appraising industry claiming that prices that people are ready to pay, are not realistic.
Domain value depends upon a (in-house) theory about the relationship between domain elements.

Number of characters in SLD, and if they mean something in some language + type of TLD.
Value depends only upon the vision of the appraiser, seller and buyer.
There are no standards.
Web value depends of "find-ability" in search engines + Sales from that web (products or/and advertising.

Appraisers must learn begin any text in relation to value estimation with the explanation of their information sources + their formulae + the statement that it is their company opinion and subject to anytime change parameter variations as time, place, locality, etc.
And not in some small print lost somewhere in some paragraph that nobody would read.

Right now, all appraisers make the mistake to mix domain elements with web content elements and search engine elements.
That is misleading customers and can be considered fraud.
If somebody starts a class action against one or another company that offers appraisals, it will hit the media with force.
And there is no way to excuse the make belief that domains do have a official market value, because it is not.

IMHO Sedo, as a big market player, should reconsider some policies and drop some questionable activities.
The first company who admits that valuation is rather art than science, is the most honest one and should attract customers.

 

[exsedo]

The most annoying thing is Sedos arrogant attitude to what is obviously an unfair situation. There is definately something wrong happening and they refuse to either admit or explain what is going on. If it is not a person associated with Sedo who owns these domains, then what benefit do Sedo get from allowing them into the listing ? I have already demonstrated that these domains have very little value, yet Sedo continue to disallow domains that have higher value than the domains already listed. I am surprised that more people have not raised this question before. The attitude of Sedo implies that their Brokerage department knows something that the top domainers do not. If these spurious domains met the qualifying standards that they keep quoting, it would not be so bad. The only thing going for some of them is the extension fits.On the other five criteria they fail.

 

[gazzip]

Its Broken !

Hi Sedo, It appears that there are a couple of things that are not working all the time.

The do not display parking statisics and the apply this setting to all my domains check boxes do not work at all. You can select them, save the changes but it does'nt make any difference, they don't work.


Also The Edit related links section only works some of the time, even though the preview looks correct - The live page does'nt show the changes/new links (I did save the changes)

Very frustrating because I spent ages adjusting them and half of them hav'nt worked.


Can you fix these asap please ?

Thanks


.

 

[Sedo]

There are two families with a pc and Internet in this building.
We put recently a domain on Sedo.
It came on to auction.
We explained to somebody how we do to make money from domain trading.
We showed how to earn from the parking and the affiliate program.
They then made an offer on our domain, from our pc.
Sedo cancelled the auction because of their policy that people nearby should not bid on our domains.

Result:
We are not happy because of the missed sale.
Our neighbor is not happy because of missed purchase.
Our neighbor has big questions about Us and about Sedo.
And Sedo missed the commission.

Conclusion:
Sedo owns Sedo.
It is their policies.
Customers agree to the policies.
We should not have allow people to bid on our domain to get it.
We will not do it again.

Eventually, who cares about who buys and pays for a domain?
If it is sold and Sedo cashes the commission, who cares?
And if the high bidder does not pay, who is to blame?
Not the seller!
There are many non-paying bidders.
Don't say it is not, because we had that ourself.
If challenged, we can post it down here.
It was up to us to get a case in court.

Sedo would be probably better off by removing the questioned policy.
In the mean time, we have removed all Sedo banners and links from all our 400+ websites.

Also, Sedo did not ever accept any of our domains for a top listing.
So we kept paying for featured listings.
But Sedo should consequently not accept domains that absolutely not respond to their quality claims as to be short etc.
There are many domains top listed that are long and describe things that we never heard of.

We understand that Sedo is a business that needs to sell.
We understand policies, and necessity to abide or quit.
We understand that some service need to be paid for.

We don't understand how Sedo dares to say how much a domain is worth, based upon irrelevant information.
Everybody has individual ideas about domain value.
We are seriously upset about the appraising industry claiming that prices that people are ready to pay, are not realistic.
Domain value depends upon a (in-house) theory about the relationship between domain elements.

Number of characters in SLD, and if they mean something in some language + type of TLD.
Value depends only upon the vision of the appraiser, seller and buyer.
There are no standards.
Web value depends of "find-ability" in search engines + Sales from that web (products or/and advertising.

Appraisers must learn begin any text in relation to value estimation with the explanation of their information sources + their formulae + the statement that it is their company opinion and subject to anytime change parameter variations as time, place, locality, etc.
And not in some small print lost somewhere in some paragraph that nobody would read.

Right now, all appraisers make the mistake to mix domain elements with web content elements and search engine elements.
That is misleading customers and can be considered fraud.
If somebody starts a class action against one or another company that offers appraisals, it will hit the media with force.
And there is no way to excuse the make belief that domains do have a official market value, because it is not.

IMHO Sedo, as a big market player, should reconsider some policies and drop some questionable activities.
The first company who admits that valuation is rather art than science, is the most honest one and should attract customers.

Hello,

Our Quality Management monitors our marketplace for any suspicious activity in order to keep the marketplace fair and safe for both buyers and sellers alike.

A domain does not "come to auction." You have the option to push the domain to a public auction in order to receive higher bids within the first five days of receiving an offer. If you had "your friend" bid on one of your domains, and you sent the domain to auction using that offer as your reserve, we consider that to be a shill bid, and this is against our Terms of Use.

Also, our appraisals and our Top Domains listings are partly based upon the current secondary market and recent sales in order to determine the domain name's estimated value in the current market, as it's really up to the market as to what is in demand and what will sell.

If you have any further questions regarding your canceled auction, please contact our Quality Management department at [email protected] for further clarification.

-Stephanie

Hi Sedo, It appears that there are a couple of things that are not working all the time.

The do not display parking statisics and the apply this setting to all my domains check boxes do not work at all. You can select them, save the changes but it does'nt make any difference, they don't work.


Also The Edit related links section only works some of the time, even though the preview looks correct - The live page does'nt show the changes/new links (I did save the changes)

Very frustrating because I spent ages adjusting them and half of them hav'nt worked.


Can you fix these asap please ?

Thanks


.

Hello,

As we continue to improve our new Offer page, there have been a few minor glitches, and these are currently being sorted out in our system.

I have not received any complaints or information regarding related links not working properly. If this is still an issue for you, please send me a PM and I will work to have this issue resolved for you.

-Stephanie

The most annoying thing is Sedos arrogant attitude to what is obviously an unfair situation. There is definately something wrong happening and they refuse to either admit or explain what is going on. If it is not a person associated with Sedo who owns these domains, then what benefit do Sedo get from allowing them into the listing ? I have already demonstrated that these domains have very little value, yet Sedo continue to disallow domains that have higher value than the domains already listed. I am surprised that more people have not raised this question before. The attitude of Sedo implies that their Brokerage department knows something that the top domainers do not. If these spurious domains met the qualifying standards that they keep quoting, it would not be so bad. The only thing going for some of them is the extension fits.On the other five criteria they fail.

As was stated previously, none of Sedo's employees participate in our online marketplace nor do we own any of the domains on the Top Domains list. There is no conspiracy; we simply do not own these domains nor do our brokers have any reason to promote domain names that they do not feel are top quality names.

If you have any specific questions relating to your applications, you can contact them personally at [email protected].

-Stephanie

Hi Stephanie, At this moment the domain mentioned is on page 49 of the Top Domains list. Nice reply . BUT THE QUESTION REMAINS UNANSWERED.

Some of my imagined guidelines from Sedo customer services training manual. To admit a mistake only draws attention to it, so if you cannot conceal a mistake quote some semi-relevant information and then let silence keep it from prominence. Avoid giving direct answers, when faced with embarassing questions, know how to give evasive answers. Never deal with the truth, the truth is troublesome.

It looks as though you may be viewing our UK website, which is displaying more relevant domains for that region. The domain in question is "debtmediation.co.uk" (and not "debtmeditation.co.uk" which is not on the list, nor is it listed for sale within our marketplace). "Debtmediation.co.uk" is listed on page 12 of the UK site's Top Domain's List when sorted alphabetically. You can sort the list alphabetically by clicking on where it says "Domain Name / Website [?]" at the very top of the list.

If you are unsure of what debt mediation is, you may choose to Google the term.

-Stephanie

 

[exsedo]

Thanks for your reply regarding Top Domain Listings, Stephanie. Perhaps you should add another qualification to the list. Maybe something like this No.7 If the subject of the domain is currently popular, we will dismiss Nos. 1-6 and allow the domain entry to the Top Domains Listing at our discretion. However we reserve the right to disallow other domains of better quality. ps. debtmediation.co.uk is still a low value domain.