Sedo.com - Official Thread

[Sedo]

Hi All! :hi:

By request, we've decided to start a thread dedicated to Sedo. We're looking for invaluable insight into what domainers want and need out of our parking program (and marketplace, of course).

Questions, comments, suggestions, tips are welcome! We're hoping this will be a great discussion about what works at Sedo and what might not (please be constructive and respectful to others in your feedback) so that everyone involved can benefit and learn from it.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas! Happy Holidays!

Always,
Keith
(on behalf of Sedo)

 

[jooster]

First, keep in mind that a unique view is one from a particular user over a certain amount of time. This number is quite accurate and also does not factor in crawlers or bots from search engines and other similar services, which may cause your stats to increase. Essentially, this is a truer representation of how many different visitors your parked domain receives.

As far as clicks go, if the system registers them as being from the same visitor, it may not record all of them. We can look into it, but we do ask that regardless of your testing intentions that you refrain from asking anyone to visit/click on your ads. It is correct that this type of activity can cause your account to be flagged, and we don't want that (especially since you have been quite forthright). Also, note that the system is on a slight delay and may not report all visits or clicks instantaneously.

So if someone in an office comes across the parking page and they tell a freind in the office and both click then we only get paid once??

That seems a little unfair!

Also if they click on a 2 or more of the ads because they are looking for something and didn'y find what they wanted on the first ad then we still only get paid once even though in both cases all advertisers would have paid for the clicks to their sites?

So who see that money if we don't?

It seems to me that the by product of parking companies doing all that they can to avoid paying out to people abuse the system is people who don't abuse the system miss out on getting paid on a lot of genuine hits.

Will sedo pay for multiple clicks in the future like other companies are?
If not then I have to say that they won't be getting my business.
My business partner also has around 25,000 domains that used to be with you which he moved to trafficz, you have been phoning recently to try and get us to move back to you, but this just doesn't work for me.

Not sure the other companies are much better but maybe one day someone will come out with a solution that is fairer to the domain parker.

 

[Sedo]

It seems you were writing that answer as I was Keith. I thought that I could save you some time, but your replies are better than mine anyway. :imho: Oh Well.

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In my opinion this is a great new feature and I am excited to try it out.

Hi Sleepys,

Your responses are quite good, and very well-informed, and I can say that the NamePros/Sedo community benefits from having you around. By all means, keep up the good work and keep posting (as that's what forums are for).

And yes, we're also very excited about the auto layout rotation feature. It should help our members make the most out of the parking program with less effort and less analysis.

It seems to me that the by product of parking companies doing all that they can to avoid paying out to people abuse the system is people who don't abuse the system miss out on getting paid on a lot of genuine hits.

Will sedo pay for multiple clicks in the future like other companies are?
If not then I have to say that they won't be getting my business.
My business partner also has around 25,000 domains that used to be with you which he moved to trafficz, you have been phoning recently to try and get us to move back to you, but this just doesn't work for me.

Not sure the other companies are much better but maybe one day someone will come out with a solution that is fairer to the domain parker.

Thanks for this feedback. I unfortunately cannot give out much detail as to the specifics of our parking program, concerning multiple clicks or where revenue ends up. For the most part, this isn't something discussed outside of those people directly invovled in parking at Sedo. However, I can certainly make sure this information and your requests are passed on to the people who make these decisions.

Take care!

 

[Sleepys]

Matt Bentley of Sedo talks breifly about how Sedo handles multiple clicks in this interview: http://www.namepros.com/parking-and...37147-new-interview-matt-bentley-of-sedo.html

Basically they try to pay you the amount that the visitor earned, but their system only will show 1 click for each visitor at most. Sedo is one of the only companies that pays for clicks as they occur, without recalculating the following day. If they significantly underpaid you or overpaid you, then they try to correct it as the name gets more clicks, meaning that they try to pay you the total earnings of the name, they just report the clicks differently. This is how I always assumed they handled multiple clicks. Here is a very common scenario for me. I have a name at Sedo, it gets a click for every 2 or 3 visitors, but the clicks are for $1-$3. I then move it somewhere else that pays multiple clicks and it gets 2-3 clicks per visitor, but only at $.05-$.10. It is a trade off. Some names do better with multiple clicks that pay me less, some do better with less reported clicks, but at higher EPC.

The multiple click issue is kind of becomming old news. By that I mean that I don't expect any changes in the way the various parking companies report their clicks/earnings any time soon. I think that the new template auto-optimize feature is a more exciting topic for discussion anyway.

 

[jooster]

I just feel this whole thing should be simple, the advertisers are normally paying 0.50 to $5+ for a click we should get our fair share for each and every click and that should be the end of it.

"I unfortunately cannot give out much detail as to the specifics of our parking program, concerning multiple clicks or where revenue ends up. For the most part, this isn't something discussed outside of those people directly invovled in parking at Sedo."

I appreciate your situation in what you can and can't say keith but I am sure you guy are still getting paid on the clicks we are not. It all just seems a little unfair..

Anyway as sleepys says it doesn't sound like this will change whatever we say, it's old news.
This thread was just started by asking what you could do to improve and be better then the competitors an get our business.

This is just my 2 cents worth.

You're missing out on about 27,000 domains from my side but I guess this is small fry to the over all amout you have on your books.

 

[netmeg]

I just feel this whole thing should be simple, the advertisers are normally paying 0.50 to $5+ for a click we should get our fair share for each and every click and that should be the end of it.

Yea? what about the advertisers' fair share on those ten clicks you were responsible for yourself?

 

[DNBro]

I received first pay from Sedo €21.21.

But for getting this €21.21, you guys can assume how much time taken????

More than 18 months ,

More than their 36-48 months revenue I’m getting monthly from other parking providers.

 

[Nem0]

Is anyone able to access the Sedo site right now? I haven't been able to access it for an hour or so - page just comes up blank after it struggles to load.

 

[Sleepys]

It seems to be down.

 

[Sedo]

Is anyone able to access the Sedo site right now? I haven't been able to access it for an hour or so - page just comes up blank after it struggles to load.

It seems to be down.

Hi Domainers!

The night of March 11 there was a botnet/DDoS attack on Sedo's parking system. This may have caused an unusual increase in views and clicks for your parked domains as the botnet requested thousands of different domains parked on our servers. The attack happened between 8pm CET and 01:30am CET (3pm EST and 8:30pm EST) and may have caused an increase in traffic, and in some cases it resulted in parking pages responding slowly. There was no revenue lost.

Sedo's technical team immediately focused on stopping the attack and all appears to be back to normal.

Hope that helps to clarify.

Take care!
--Keith

 

[Sleepys]

It is odd. I saw no increase in visitors at all on the 11th. I did however see a decrease of 30-35% in uniques on the 12th and so far for today. My uniques are extremely consistent, so it is odd. I sent my account manager a question about it, but it is odd that it corresponds to the day after the attack. I am waiting to hear back from my account rep, as it could be an account specific thing. It also does not appear to be affecting my earnings, except on some high traffic names that made money with pop-unders and now don't.

 

[netmeg]

That's interesting because several other places I park had severe bot attacks on the 11th too.

 

[Sleepys]

That's interesting because several other places I park had severe bot attacks on the 11th too.

They do often times seem to hit more than one place.

 

[upbeat]

I can see where a botnet attack may cause an increase in registered views, however, I cannot see how it could cause an increase in clicks.

 

[Sleepys]

I can see where a botnet attack may cause an increase in registered views, however, I cannot see how it could cause an increase in clicks.

I have bots clicking on my parked.com pages all the time. They get hit and have to filter through a lot fairly often. They don't seem to click much at the other places I park, or they simply don't get through as often.

 

[nstalk]

Sedo.com - Over $3 million in domain sales each month!
Keith

Hi Keith....just one question....why don't they list these sales?

And please don't tell me they do it with that little list on their webpage....that's nowhere near $3 million every month.

 

[totalmasala]

Hello,

My account is not upgraded to sedopro. I had more then 200$ earnings in 2 consecutive months. I submitted application to upgrade my account through sedopro.com but they did not respond till date, just no response! I had mailed sedo support but no response from there too! I think i have all sedopro requirements fullfiled. I even have more then 200 Domains in my Sedo Account.
I want to request in this sedo.com official thread to please upgrade my account as soon as possible. And tell how much more time it will take? it has been 2 months now since i submitted application.

Thanks

 

[bgmv]

These are my stats for today on one of my LLLL.com, I think its a fluke. It tusuallly gets around a 150 uinques a day but never any clicks and today 105 clicks??

631 105 16.64% $0.09 $14.23 $8.98

 

[upbeat]

I wish I had that kind of fluke. My total income for clicks yesterday was $2.55 on 600 names in SedoPro. I know my views/clicks stats are not being recorded properly. In fact my (reported) views are down 50% some months as compared to previous years, and I've added names each year. When I've e-mailed sedo a couple of times to request that whatever problem is hitting my account be rectified, I get the same form letter and no results.

Here's the form-letter respose from sedo (BTW, I don't know what "three" accounts they are referring to....I have one account that I know about at sedo)....sedo's letter to me follows:

I have seen the decrease you've described in the three accounts, and I'm certain that it's a Google and/or market issue as opposed to a Sedo issue. I've talked with some of my counterparts at other parking companies who have noticed a drop as well. You must also keep in mind that over time traffic does taper off for certain types of domains—as user become aware that a particular domain is parked with advertisements; they will not revisit that domain or click any ads.

I am monitoring the numbers in your account and other large partners, and juxtaposing them with the total trends company and industry-wide to ensure that we are doing the best we can under the circumstances. It's likely that this trend will reverse itself on its own and naturally bounce back to what we have forecasted for the coming month.

Best regards,

Ara Zusky

 

[Sedo]

Hello,

My account is not upgraded to sedopro. I had more then 200$ earnings in 2 consecutive months. I submitted application to upgrade my account through sedopro.com but they did not respond till date, just no response! I had mailed sedo support but no response from there too! I think i have all sedopro requirements fullfiled. I even have more then 200 Domains in my Sedo Account.
I want to request in this sedo.com official thread to please upgrade my account as soon as possible. And tell how much more time it will take? it has been 2 months now since i submitted application.

Thanks

These are my stats for today on one of my LLLL.com, I think its a fluke. It tusuallly gets around a 150 uinques a day but never any clicks and today 105 clicks??

631 105 16.64% $0.09 $14.23 $8.98

I wish I had that kind of fluke. My total income for clicks yesterday was $2.55 on 600 names in SedoPro. I know my views/clicks stats are not being recorded properly. In fact my (reported) views are down 50% some months as compared to previous years, and I've added names each year. When I've e-mailed sedo a couple of times to request that whatever problem is hitting my account be rectified, I get the same form letter and no results.

Here's the form-letter respose from sedo (BTW, I don't know what "three" accounts they are referring to....I have one account that I know about at sedo)....sedo's letter to me follows:

I have seen the decrease you've described in the three accounts, and I'm certain that it's a Google and/or market issue as opposed to a Sedo issue. I've talked with some of my counterparts at other parking companies who have noticed a drop as well. You must also keep in mind that over time traffic does taper off for certain types of domains—as user become aware that a particular domain is parked with advertisements; they will not revisit that domain or click any ads.

I am monitoring the numbers in your account and other large partners, and juxtaposing them with the total trends company and industry-wide to ensure that we are doing the best we can under the circumstances. It's likely that this trend will reverse itself on its own and naturally bounce back to what we have forecasted for the coming month.

Best regards,

Ara Zusky

Hi totalmasala, I will respond to your PM

bgmv: send a PM with more specific information regarding yoru account, and we can check it out for you.

And upbeat: You should continue to work directly with your account rep if you experience issues with your parking performance. There are some things that Sedo can help with, but the occasional downward trend cannot be helped.

Take care!

Always,
Keith

 

[fatter]

where is the option to switch to auto optimize I cant find it I have tried looking just about everywhere on there site,
Thanks joe T