SCAMMER FROM SINGAPORE ASIA!!! BE AWARE!!!

[Omar.]

I just got Scammed for a lot of domains in 2 Bulk purchases from the same buyer/Scammer. I pushed successfully all the 213 domains to the Scammers GoDaddy account and in both bulk purchases the Scammer Open a Case in PayPal requesting a Refund ($81 USD), claiming the did not receive the goods, which is FALSE! The buyer even left me 2 Positive Feedbacks in my NamePros account after I pushed immediately after payment all the domains into his GoDaddy account.

After I checked the Whois info of most of my 213 domains, I noticed the Scammer already sold ALL of them, so I hope the buyers will Open a Case on PayPal to get a Refund of the money they paid to the Scammer, so the Scammer wont WIN and wont use that money to make more Online Frauds!! LETS STOP HIM!!

I reported this situation to @Amanda and @Michelle because I found out the Scammer have 2 fake members account on NamePros, which are this ones, now both are "closed" for obvious reasons, I was right:


https://www.namepros.com/members/honourdomains.991391/


https://www.namepros.com/members/aimex77.939170/

These are the PayPal accounts of the Scammer, so if you purchased domains from him, PLEASE OPEN A CASE ON PAYPAL REQUESTING A REFUND OF YOUR MONEY, so the Scammer don't use your money to do more online FRAUDS!! Thanks,

· Chembol Domains (PayPal told me this account is of Ashley Tan from Singapore).

· [email protected]
[email protected]

• Honour And Glory Shop (PayPal told me this account is from Thomas Poh from Singapore).
• [email protected]

[email protected]

The Scammers GoDaddy account is this one, where I pushed all the domains in both Bulk Purchases on August 2016.


Godaddy: [email protected]
Customer#: 47426703

Then I just Google that email address and found this info:
address: Blk 237 Tampines Singapore Singapore 520237 SG phone: +65.90670543 ... Registrant Email:thomaspoh1977@yahoo.com.sg

Here is the other profile, I attached the link of the domains I sold to @honourdomains and the fake profile try to sell them here:


https://www.namepros.com/threads/panamaoffers-com-lots-of-godaddy-domains-1-each-start.967200/

Both Fake NamePros accounts of the Fraudster claimed for FREE 2 domains in the link below:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/cl...nationalcab-com-and-more.963740/#post-5666188

The namepros member that was giving his domains for FREE clearly said in his thread, JUST ONE FREE DOMAIN PER MEMBER!! and the SCAMMER obviously grabbed 2 FREE domains using his 2 fake namepros accounts, that I mentioned in this conversation above.

Then the SCAMMER AKA Thomas Poh, sell those 2 names in less than a week. And guess what, I checked the Whois info of both Free domains that he grabbed, and Iam going to send emails to their new owners to advise that they both bought domains from a SCAMMER, and I will request them, to open a case in PAYPAL to get a refund for the total amount that they paid for each domain.

This is just for the Beginning, I am going to harvest all my 213 domains that they robbed from me, and I will send a lot of emails to their new owners, so all of them can OPEN A CASE ON PAYPAL TO REQUEST A REFUND FROM THE MONEY THEY PAID FOR THE STOLEN DOMAIN!!

I hope this will piss off Thomas Poh and Ashley Tan!! lol


And Hopefully PayPal realize their fraudulent PayPal accounts and cancel his 2 PayPal accounts that Thomas Poh and Ashley Tan used for ONLINE FRAUDS!!

One of the Best things of NamePros, is that every post, threat or comment get Indexed in Google, so all the World will know that Thomas Poh and Ashley Tan are SCAMMERS FROM SINGAPORE, ASIA!


Thanks,
OmarVG

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

https://www.namepros.com/members/aimex77.939170/

@Eric Lyon what is this auto-closed account stuff? If this person is a scammer why were they online 6 hours ago?

I noticed @Michael Ehrhardt has the same status... hi Mikey hope things are well in homeland1

 

[Joe N]

@OmarVG:

Have a read - https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/seller/ChargebackRisk-outside

Seems unlikely the money would have just been pulled out of your account without an investigation, according to this.

 

[Sam Roy]

I too feel OmarVG should be fighting paypal dispute by giving evidence of the domains transfer rather than fighting an innocent buyer (untill proven guilty). I too once scammed but I own the dispute by citing evidence.

 

[wayne wooldridge]

@OmarVG:

Have a read - https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/seller/ChargebackRisk-outside

Seems unlikely the money would have just been pulled out of your account without an investigation, according to this.

This is true. @OmarVG, you should be working this out with PayPal instead of flaming the other innocent party here on the forums. If what you say is true, you should have sufficient evidence to prove your case to paypal and have the chargeback reversed. End of story...

In the future, use escrow when dealing with higher amounts.

 

[mitch007]

....
In the future, if you must use PayPal while dealing with someone not well known, ask the buyer to send money as gift only.

This option, I think, clashes with Namepros policy

 

[wayne wooldridge]

This option, I think, clashes with Namepros policy

Your absolutely right. I edited that statement, thanks.

 

[S-B]

@Stivie Malone I would just move on. If you haven't realized it already logic doesn't appeal to most people here. It is not your duty to pay this guy for domains you already bought. As you said, he should have done his due-diligence.

@OmarVG Dealing with anonymous people on the Internet makes you vulnerable. When I cashed out of Bitcoin I had 3 people in a row scam me. Lost about $800. That's life. We all need to learn from our mistakes and be more careful moving forward.

 

[Eric Lyon]

We are actively investigating this and will provide an update once we have more information to share. We are waiting on information from several sources, including OmarVG. We hope to have all of the details in this case soon. This case is not as simple as what's been described, and we need additional information before we can comment further.

both accounts of the Scammer are supposedly "auto closed" but guess what, everyday, they log in in Name pros and have convesations with their partners! And they can respod me in Private messages too!

@Eric Lyon what is this auto-closed account stuff?

When an account reaches the maximum threshold for warning points, it is automatically closed. The "auto closed" account state prevents them from using the forums and prevents them from starting new conversations, but they are able to reply to certain existing conversations to allow them to communicate with us and work on the issues that closed their accounts. This gives everyone a chance to resolve existing issues that they're involved in, but it prevents them from creating new problems.

This option, I think, clashes with Namepros policy

It used to be against our policies to request a PayPal gift payment, but we no longer enforce other website's policies. There are too many of them, and it's impractical for us to keep up with them all as they change.

However, I do believe it is still against PayPal's ToS to ask for it to be sent as a gift, but you'll want to double check with them.

 

[Sinh]

This is a big lesson for domaining begginner like me.

 

[ZapNano]

I bought domain after having a thread on Digitalpoint, BEFORE this scammer open his own thread on this forum.

You are missing one of the post, Godaddy, the real owner, clearly admited that they could not do nothing because he ( "scamer" ) was legit owner now.

Explain me one thing, if godaddy DECIDED that he was real owner, when godaddy are the only one that can take real decision on the subject, say he was owner, what is problem?

He did not stolen the goods, he paid them, i bought them, then he charged back them, at the time of the purchase he was truely the owner, afterwards he did chargeback, which is out of my hands.

As one in this thread said, If he did chargeback 6 month after, and i resold the domain, who would be paying for the loss?

I offered the guy 50% of his loss , and you still defend him??????

I have offered him to come my teamviewer to see my conversation on other forum with seller, HE REFUSED SO! i sent him PM asking him to join my TV... he is NOT interested in knowing that i am not the scammer but a legitimate buyer, he is ONLY interested in saying PAY ME THE 120$, PAY ME FULL 81$ NOW!!!! PAY ME!!! no respect and he not recognize that he failed to do security checks while I did not.

Thankk you every one for your post, i though this forum was full of Omar and I was the only one to see this straight.

First of all I'm NOT defending on any parties; And Goddady is not the real owner of the domains Omar purchased. For the time being, Omar registrerd those domains, so he is the rightful owners of the domains for the time being untill he is no longer want to keep the names. It then go back to public for availability.

"What is the problem", is that Goddady doesn't want to do more about the situation. That is why, Goddady said "the domains was already transfered to the other party. period. If Omar didn't get paid is his problem; is the scenario.

About three of you face to face conversation; Omar has the right to refused not too. I would not suggest either; I would not trust people. You must have known this scammer very well? To trust him.

You claimed you had offered him 50% of what amount? Did Ormar received the amount you had offered to him? Did he agreed.

" He failed security checked" Keep in mind the buyer has more than 1 possitive feedback and the buyer has been a member at NamePros since 2012? Ormar then used this references.

If I was the victim I will be doing some thorough investigation. I can guarantee YOU that.

In some places, if someone purchased stolen goods they can repossess that stolen properties from you. There is zero addition question & answer. You simply cannot keep stolen properties. Doing this will prevent people from buying stolen property for more profits.

If Ormar agreed to your offer, then send him the money.

 

[mitch007]

From now on, on all my future selling threads ( and invoices) I intend to add the following statement. Feel free to use it (or improvise it) if you wish

PLEASE READ OUR AGREEMENT: By buying or bidding on these website domain name items YOU agree, if you are the winner, that there will be no refunds, no paypal "chargebacks", and no returns allowed. I agree to internally move (push) the domain or domains to your account at the registrar where the domain(s) are located after payment is made. You agree to ACCEPT (if necessary) the domain or domains as soon as they are moved to your registrar account. This will conclude our transaction.

 

[Stivie Malone]

First of all I'm NOT defending on any parties; And Goddady is not the real owner of the domains Omar purchased. For the time being, Omar registrerd those domains, so he is the rightful owners of the domains for the time being untill he is no longer want to keep the names. It then go back to public for availability.

"What is the problem", is that Goddady doesn't want to do more about the situation. That is why, Goddady said "the domains was already transfered to the other party. period. If Omar didn't get paid is his problem; is the scenario.

About three of you face to face conversation; Omar has the right to refused not too. I would not suggest either; I would not trust people. You must have known this scammer very well? To trust him.

You claimed you had offered him 50% of what amount? Did Ormar received the amount you had offered to him? Did he agreed.

" He failed security checked" Keep in mind the buyer has more than 1 possitive feedback and the buyer has been a member at NamePros since 2012? Ormar then used this references.

If I was the victim I will be doing some thorough investigation. I can guarantee YOU that.

In some places, if someone purchased stolen goods they can repossess that stolen properties from you. There is zero addition question & answer. You simply cannot keep stolen properties. Doing this will prevent people from buying stolen property for more profits.

If Ormar agreed to your offer, then send him the money.

We are not talking about i bought stolen goods...

When I bought the digital item, it was paid for, and he was true owner of the domain, if there is a problem of deal between original seller and buyer I cannot be held responsible If he had the domain in his possession it mean he bought them, i cannot be held responsible if he bought them with fraud.

I did not trust the scammer very well no, i just paid without ask question because i know I make good offer and I did not think he would scam me. If he did, i would understand I am the loser there because I got scammed, i would not put my blame on someone else.

Omar is puting blame on other because he got scammed, he got scammed, it is true, i am sorry for him but I bought domains legitly and i paid for them AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE to the seller

If you buy domains on sedo for 10000$ and few days after sell someone email you saying the domain was stolen... i am sorry but you bought the domain legitly. there is no way you will lose your money when doing a legit deal.

I do not wish to argue anymore with you, you are on the side of omar and will not listen nothing and will not make sense of nothing, please open your eyes.

 

[MackieMesser]

This is a big lesson for domaining begginner like me.

Yes, for me, too. That one sale that I had so far was conducted with escrow. It's a high fee, but the money is safe then.

 

[iwon24]

Guys just let the namepros mods solve this as it can be both ways , if stivie is legit and he bought the domains of the scammer which he thought was legit, then he is not responsible to give omar anything.

and if turns out stivie is the person who scammed him using another account then he is responsible and namepros mods will take care of it

but no one should be taking sides as we dont know either way what is the truth , and this thread is good for letting people know about the person who scammed him e.g. the username and emails etc.. but nobody should be accusing anybody of anything as nobody knows the truth here until namepros mods have finished there investigation.

 

[Stivie Malone]

Guys just let the namepros mods solve this as it can be both ways , if stivie is legit and he bought the domains of the scammer which he thought was legit, then he is not responsible to give omar anything.

and if turns out stivie is the person who scammed him using another account then he is responsible and namepros mods will take care of it

but no one should be taking sides as we dont know either way what is the truth , and this thread is good for letting people know about the person who scammed him e.g. the username and emails etc.. but nobody should be accusing anybody of anything as nobody knows the truth here until namepros mods have finished there investigation.

I am definetly not the scammer and offered proof of it to admin/mod to join me on Teamviewer, i also ffered proof to omar to join me on TV but not interested.
Problem is omar and this other girl says that if i bought domain from a scammer i should DOUBLE pay for the domain????? as if because the domain were frauded i need to pay scammer and also pay original owner? This is what i do not understand...

I can proove i am not scammer, i can proove without any problem to admin or moderator to join my teamviewer! I offered it already and i also sent many screenshot of our conversations.

 

[Stivie Malone]

My problem is that Omar is accusing me of being the scammer, he post my public registrant information, he post my email, and my detail publicly and acccuse me of being a scammer.

This is the only reason I come in this thread to defend myself, I paid NamePros Supporter to be able to defendm yself on the Chat box

I do not accept to be called out as a scammer when I am not.

I find it very bad to accuse people who LEGITLY bought domains.

I request he take off my name from this shit because I DID NOT scam no body.

 

[iwon24]

I am definetly not the scammer and offered proof of it to admin/mod to join me on Teamviewer, i also ffered proof to omar to join me on TV but not interested.
Problem is omar and this other girl says that if i bought domain from a scammer i should DOUBLE pay for the domain????? as if because the domain were frauded i need to pay scammer and also pay original owner? This is what i do not understand...

I can proove i am not scammer, i can proove without any problem to admin or moderator to join my teamviewer! I offered it already and i also sent many screenshot of our conversations.

Any proof you have send to the namepros mods and they will sort it nobody should be accusing you as nobody knows the truth , as for if omar did the deal with this person and then you bought them of the person he did the deal with and then he did a charge back on omar , then that is up to omar to sort out with paypal for proof etc .. he might win or might lose but this is by no means your fault and you should not have to give him anything nor give him the domains, as you have paid for them already and the problem is between omar and the scammer not you. but that is only my opinion

 

[iwon24]

My problem is that Omar is accusing me of being the scammer, he post my public registrant information, he post my email, and my detail publicly and acccuse me of being a scammer.

This is the only reason I come in this thread to defend myself, I paid NamePros Supporter to be able to defendm yself on the Chat box

I do not accept to be called out as a scammer when I am not.

I find it very bad to accuse people who LEGITLY bought domains.

I request he take off my name from this sh*t because I DID NOT scam no body.

Only the details of the definate scammer the " first buyer " should be revealed to help other members not to deal with that person, as for your details i feel mods should remove them until they have finished there investigation as if you are innocent this is giving you a bad reputation over nothing , and if it turns out you are guilty then by all means omar can put that public to protect other sellers , but again thats just what i think

 

[skyz21]

Shame to see scamming going on here. Hope it gets resolved

 

[golan]

Crazy stuff here. This Omar guy got screwed and now demands money from a honest buyer in very rude form. And a bunch of his supporters calling the poor guy Sir and accusing him too. And that poor guy Stivie, why won't you already show the first guy where he should go now, why you keep the discussion and keep defending yourself? Move on.

What a crazy world.